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Tuesday, June 23, 2009

New Methodist Church members told to pay tithe

Members of the New Methodist Church have a compulsory obligation to give 10% of their earnings to the Church as tithing.

Those earning $300 and less are currently below the $15,000 tax threshold, which means they don't pay PAYE. They will have to contribute $30 a week towards the Church, apart from the 8% deduction for FNPF.

For those earning more than $15,000 per annum, they have to contribute 10% from their gross salary, apart from 8% FNPF contribution and tax deductions of 15%, 22% and 31% depending on their scale of income.

Sources say those earning incomes below $15,000 are struggling and are already borrowing their pay in advance to meet the basic needs of their families.

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

Welcome to regimes radical monetary strategy -voodoo economics - with accompanying band.

Anonymous said...

Folks, you ain't seen nothing yet...wait until young crusaders recruited by Teleni as policemen come around demanding protection money

Anonymous said...

this 10% goes straight to atu and telenis pocket.the 10% is making them rich its the enrichment program using god.10% x #of people x 52weeks you would be millioner in one year.

mark manning said...

The New Mothodist church, could itbe another Jonestown waiting to happen ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3cx3U0gYE

Anonymous said...

All this money is basically directed to their pockets and tax free. The government do not audit church organisation,s therefore these poor people that are tithing are entertaining the new methodist leaders lifestyle..disgusting! These poor churchgoers are hoping that their genuine tithing that God will reward BUT unfortunately all their tithing goes to the pastors bank account! this is what you call an enrichment programme using god!imagine if everyone earns 100 per week, tithing is 10.00,
say 1000 members so at the end of the week the leaders get 10000.00 x 52 weeks in a year, 520,000.00 in their pockets.....! Now the police department is including this as part of the recruitment programme...here we have again the 10% tithing drive..I am absolutely disgusted by all these and just goes to show that the Lord in near...god bless Fiji

Anonymous said...

The tithes must ge given from the heart and willingly-not by coercion! I pity those police men and women who would pay this out of fear of losing their jobs even though they do not believe in the cult calling itself New Methodist.

Anonymous said...

Another scam by ketenipoaka and his brother.They are already eating away the police marketing budget and a proper investigation will be done when the new democratically elected government comes in.

FICAC and the Public Accounts Committee are just the puppets of Voreqe and Teleni so do not expect much from them.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know where in the bible does it state to tithe money.

mark manning said...

The potential for Fiji to head down this path, as in Nigeria, is very real :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?p=94DFA28C41D56A02&playnext=1&index=0&feature=PlayList&v=J_QrZvWL65Q
Take the time to look at the whole series of videos and spread this around.

mark manning said...

I understand that tithing relates only to the old Testament, because you can't give to the Lord that which is already His !
And to give only 10% when he already owns it 100%, is effectively keeping 90% for yourself, and that's theft !

Unfortunately, these Charismatic Churches, use vulnerable, naive people from society and warp their minds into thinking they are serving god.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Many, but not all, are simply plundering the community and lining their own pockets.
If you want to help people directly, give your 10% to world vision or any other of the well established welfare organisations.
God will still smile upon you and bless you.
Don't be suckers for these men who give fancy sermons, dress in fine suits, make fanciful speeches full of promises.

GOD IS GREAT said...

NI YADRA MAI NA LEWENI LOTU - O Qeleratu mai Sydney esa vutuniyau ena nona qoqona tiko na $ 10% mai vei ira na lotu tiko vua,he has been doing this for over 25years,e vica tiko na nona vale mai nausori kei Davuilevu. At the same time he lives in an housing commision flat in sydney to top it up he is on the dole.The wife goes to fiji every second week 25times per year.what a life style.PLEASE WAKE UP PEOPLE.Atu ,Teleni and their wives are doing the same thing - its your tithe thats making them rich.they say that they have got financial backers overseas that is a big lie,your 10% is there financial backer.please please people spend your 10%tithe on your family and god will bless and reward you.dont give it to this bunch of lies and crooks,

mark manning said...

http://fijidailypost.com/news.php

Anonymous said...

QO NA KEI ATU

Anonymous said...

and joe nawalowalo still supports these crooks

Anonymous said...

First things first, look after your family first, clothe , feed yourself and your fAMILY first before thinking of feeding any others like ATU & WIFE & His new found BUSINESS called "New Methodists" and Bisiness partner called TELENI.
Amen.Repeat after me, HALLELUYAH!!! Says Telenininini.
Are people so aimless, and insecure and STUPID to actually believe in what ATU & Co. are saying on stage and the new "dance" jive moves they are ridiculously showing!!!.

Thats not the Methodist style of worship, that is more pentecostal-like....the things they talk about on stage is more cult-like and the dancing is more like The 'new Bali-Hai".

Just listen to them boast on stage about the "money and the travelling and the sex talk that they are engaging in"- all in the name of "blessing" from God?"- What Rubbish!

As far as I know, they are unqualified to preach, untrained and underscholared in theology.

Nothing about them is METHODIST so they should not even use and abuse the word "METHODIST".
they should call themselves, or "ATU"S NEW CHURCH BUSINESS".or "QO NA KEI ATU CHURCH"

Atu's wife should keep quiet and have some respect for herself rather than protestuting herself on stage and broadcasting her matrimonial bed secrets for all to hear- "QO NA KEI ATU"
SHAMEFUL IDIOT. DISQUSTING. AMEN.

Anonymous said...

"Atu & Wifes New Style Jive Band".
Does have a certain ring 2 it.

Anonymous said...

"Atu & Wifes New Style Business Jive Band".

Anonymous said...

more money for " QO NA KEI ATU BUSINESS"

Anonymous said...

olei!!!!!! I vei na Kei Atu!!

Anonymous said...

hahahahahaha....just could not help laughing...so many comments on the New Methodist activities and actions. VENGENCE IS MINE SAYS THE LORD......PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL AND EVEN TO THE ATU & CO.......GOD IS NOT FOOLED.

Anonymous said...

please can some one find out how much is in their bank acc,before they start up the cult and now,people l bet you any money there is no bapenk acc for the cult but there is one fat one for the vulaonos

Anonymous said...

as my grandmama used to say "ke o sa via vutuniyau totolo, tauyavu taka dua nomu lotu vou" lol

Anonymous said...

Tithing is not supposed to be forced upon any member of any Denomination. Is it because Atu and his Family are feeling the crunch of the IG? C'mon New Methodists! Wake Up! The God that we serve is far Greater than what you think or made to believe.

Ke sa va qo na vanua sa yacova na Lotu, Sa qai dua na ka vakaloloma!

New Methodists! All things begin from your own Jerusalem. You cannopt be praising God by giving the Church all that money and allow your children to suffer. That's Ungodly! God gave you that job to take care of his flock...and his flock are your children/family and NOT Atu!

WAKE UP CHRISTIANS!

Anonymous said...

veikenuni na vosa tiko na tithe e important....malakai wase tolu ...o tala atu talega e sega ni kania tiko na tithe it is use on church.....e rawa ka o tala atu baleta ni lolo ka masu tiko....kua talega ni tukuna tiko qo na kei atu baleta e sega ni dina raica tobo tale tu ko iko tukuna na ka o sega ni raica...kua mada na vosa me lai caka na masu......masu ena qai soli vei iko na i lavo baleta iko comment tiko mai niko JELOUS Ha HA HA HA HA HA

Anonymous said...

i support u bro tala atu and the ministry dont worry wat the people say jus do wat God tells u to do. methediost pastor ur old friend

Anonymous said...

Preach it Talatala Atu!... Set jiko! Wananavu na vosa ni Kalou. Sa bula tiko na tamata mai na lasu ni tevoro kei na nona i lawalawa.NEW METHODIST IS HERE TO STAY. SOULS TO JESUS IS THE VISION and MORE LIVES WILL BE GIVEN to THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. HALELUIAH! GOD IS GOOD. ORE CRUSADE TELENI...QORI SARAGA!..EMENI LEVU.

Anonymous said...

sega ni o masu qai lako mai vei iko nai lavo,na i lavo e lako mai e na buno ni yadremu.sa kua soti mada na vunau taka tiko na yaqona baleta o ira na dau tei yaqona sa ra rawata tiko mai kina eso na sede mera bula kina(mai na buno),sega ni mai vakataka eso mera mai bula loto tiko ena nodra buno eso tale na tamata.

Anonymous said...

isa kea vunautaki walega vakadodonu na vosa ni kalou kea sega ni mai vakalewai kina na i soqosoqo lotu qo kei rau na kena liuliu veilecayaki

LUCY TAWAKE said...

to the new methodists , souls to jesus ministry, the army of the living god, the joshua generation, now is the best time to serve the Lord, if you look at the pattern of what's going on, you will realise that Jesus, when he was on Earth, went through the exact same thing, worse, they killed him, they nailed him to the cross, on this Earth, that happens when you stand for the truth, and when you are standing alone on it, i salute the new methodists who have seen the light, THE PASTORS VULAONO AND THE OTHER PASTORS OF THE CHURCH, and are still worshipping and praising god, regadless of what the modern day pharisees and saducees are saying on this website, remember, GOD SAYS , I WILL HONOUR THOSE WHO HONOUR ME, AND DESPISE THOSE WHO DESPISE ME, VEI IRA KECE NA COMMENT TIKO MAI QO, ENA WEBSITE QO, ERA SEGA TIKO NI KILA DEIVAKI ENA UTODRA E LOMA SE DINA NA KA IRA TUKUNA TIKO SE SEGA, AU VIA TUKUNA VEI IRA NIU SA NA TAVIRAKA TANI MAI NA KUVU NI SOSO MAI NA NOQU I VAVA , PREPARE FOR WHAT'S COMING!! EMENI, JESUS IS LORD, TO GOD BE THE GLORY, FOREVER AND EVER, AMEN!! KEIMAMI SA NA SEGA NI QAI RAI TALE E MURI DE KEIMAMI DURU MASIMA, NI QAI LEWAI KEMUNI TIKO MAI, E SEGA NI NEIMAMI KORO OQO, ME KEIMAMI TIKO VAKADUA KINA, WE'RE JUST PASSING THROUGH!!!

Anonymous said...

Kua tale na were ubiubi tiko mai.....vicai!!
Vaceva me vadodonutaki ga vei Atu na vosavosa ca.....keimami kilai Thomas Baker ga a taka yani Igiladi....qo sa kau lotu tale mai o Atu kei Ratabacaca i UK.....na valeni lotu e bini tu qo, yet the Fijians want to start their own little church, sa dua na ka na veibeci....vacava me da lai lotu ga na vale ni lotu.....soli nai ka tini(keo via solia) i na vale ni lotu ka ko lotu tiko kina.....sega o kaiviti via vailavo taki ira nai talatala mai viti mai na nona qaravi kalou tiko i UK......sa rui levu na lasu man!!
Struggle tiko na kai viti lewe ni lotu, vodo waqavuka tiko mai na i talatala, vuli tiko i valagi na luvedra......vosa tiko na kalou vei ira.....kemudou.....e dina tiko na ka qo!!
Split the church so we can split the cash....!
Sa noqu i vasala ga qoka.....wiliki ga nai vola tabu ka masu....lako ena dela ni nomu vabauta...kua na muri tu vasese....lotu ga i vale.....sa rui levu na CON!!

Anonymous said...

sega ni mai important......sa dina ga o talatala Salababa....''so na lotu luvenisala''koya sa on tiko mai qo.....se bera ni yabaki 200 na cabe ni lotu....sa rui levu na tawase....sa rui levu talega na lecaika vei ira na muri tiko...

Anonymous said...

Rawa ni dua e tukuna mada vei au na cava e sega ni rawa digitaki kina e dua tale na yaca ni lotu instead of New Methodist? Sa vaka e beci sara ga kina na lotu Wesele. Au sega mada ga ni Wesele(used to) ia sa dua na ka na kena rogorogo ca vei au. Na Wesele koya e a lutu kina nai wau vei ira na tukada. Na Wesele ea nanumi Viti kina na Kalou me da rawa nida mai bula ka rarama na noda rai. Na i talatala mada ga ni wesele e dusia na niu e lutu. Keda qo eda kolota tiko madaga e cala tiko. Vacava ke tauyavu tale e dua na i soqosoqo lotu nikua me vakatokai na 'The Better New Methodist'? How will they feel?

Anonymous said...

mudrau, e sega ni wesele e lutu kina nai wau na lotu i jisu koya e kauta mai o REV THOMAS BAKER koya e lutu kina nai wau,tovolea mada mo kauta na lotu wesele i Afganistan without fasting n praying raica ga me ratou drudrugi iko vaka e dua na vuaka o ratou na Taliban koya ratou jiko mai Helmand noqu tagane, its only through fasting n prayer that GOD will suport.EMENI+EMENI=PRAISE THE LORD HALLELUYA...

Anonymous said...

Rokovi na Kalou....na noda i nuinui ko Jiova ea lutu kina nai wau ni veikanikani e Viti..ea vakayagataka na bula nei Thomas Baker na Kalou ka sega me mai rogo kina na lotu wesele..ia me vakarogoi kina na Kalou duaduaga.Ke dua me laurai,me laveti ,me dokadoka taki...sa dodonu ka kilikili oya me sai Jiova,Jisu kei na kaukaua ni yalo tabu.

Anonymous said...

God has always been here right in front of us...it is us who shy away from God.. busy running around starting new churches when God is present everywhere...save souls for Jesus...if atu and Co are asking people to help them save souls for Jesus at any cost, what do they think other churches are doing..saving souls for the devil...kerekere ke via ulukau io mo ulukau va rauta...starting a new church is the fastest way to be rich because in fiji churches are exempt from tax... via vunau, vunautaka nai vola tabu... kua ni vunautaki iko atu...brother i, myself and me..

bui said...

dnt talk alot jus go madaga luk after ur family cz they are very successful for wat god has bless them with.....i was dea at the crusade bt nothin was sad lik dat...lies is everywhere...u people are jus LOMACA of them...hahahaha

welcome to lasulasu.com....the vidoe was a make up one bt the original is with them...y dnt u go get one copy and watch b4 u open ur mouth..qarauna ira na tamata ni kalou....

gospel reggae said...

i dont attend NCF Pastor Atu did a lot of wrong things wen he started..it was for a reason, now he has learnt from it, things like criticizing and insulting etc etc. But the Lord was teaching him and now NCF is strong and is here to stay. OK on the 10%, it is just a small amount that belongs to GOD,i dont rily know why some people have to make such a fuss about it. like i said i really admire Pastor Atu fo standing up fo God in the streets of Suva, coz we Fijians are really one hard group of people when it comes to religion. Remind you our religions wether it be Methodist, SDA, All Nation, CMF, NEW LIFE, WESLEY etc etc does not guarantee a place for U in Heaven. Read your bible if you doubt,it is only "the gateway to Heaven" which was revealed to Jacob; becoz the bible says clearly "whoever has the Son has the life; whoever does not have the Son does not have the life" check it out 1 John 5:11-13 THERE IS ONLY 1 WAY TO HEAVEN AND IT CAN BE FOUND ON JOHN 14:6. KEVAKA E SEGA VEI IKO NA KI OYA SA RAUTA GA ME VEILECAYAKI IKO NA BULA Pastor Atu gona sa tukuni Jisu tiko vacavi iko bau tukuni Jisu tu vei ka dabe tu qori i yasamu se sega. Kua mada nio madualaki Jisu tiko, mo qai nanumi koya ga ni sa yaco mai na leqa. "Meu muri JISU ena bula ga oqo, ni se siga tiko se sa bogi buto..we ni yava i JISU au na muri tikoga" JESUS ROCKS

Anonymous said...

OE..O CEI SA WINI?? O NADRO?? SE O NAVUA?

Anonymous said...

New Methodist are a joke and Pastor Atu a disgrace. Keep putting the dagger into other religions Pastor Atu. The Catholic Church is 2000 years old and in 2000 years time we will still be here where as the New Methodists will be just dust. No record no memory of a sad little Pacific cult that was built on lies and deception.

sereana said...

no pst atu is a cool man, its the wife who wants 2 b d boss...

Anonymous said...

Thanx alot for all the comments.Esega ni ura me damu nikua.Iam a member of the new methodist christian fellowship and i wish to say here that we were never instructed about giving our tithes ,its an order from God so before you say something Mr/Mrs anonymous i pray that you read your bible....God bless you

pastor sani said...

gold coast aus. pastor sani . kemuni na veiwekani..theres is only one lord,one, faith, one baptism (eph 4:5)... we only have one God and not several of them. even though we hav deferent denominations..but we still one in Him. there are diferent gifts of the Spirit in many parts of the body and yet we still dividing ouselves from each part...pls read the whole chpter 1 corinthians 12:1-30..and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you the truth of His Word...cos its the sword of the Spirit..eph 6:17..and not yor theology and someone elses comentary..cos youll find yor self with lots of knowledge and lack of wisdom from God's Spirit...1 corin 2:1-8..lets not favor the preacher or teacher se na nomu lotu, favor God and His word. Amen! cos His the only one will make it grow accordin to his purpose. 1 cor 3:1-9. im a methodist but i make myself fit in,in the body of christ.. i believe in tithin and offerin wether in money form or belongings.. lets expand the kingdom of God here on earth...i praise god for people like ps Atu & co. theyve got the gift from above.. you go for it sir...people are hungry for the Word..

Anonymous said...

Do not look @ Talatala Atu or his Family..but just focus on the WORD of God that comes out of his mouth..rogoca ga na ka o dodonu mo rogoca, biuta ga na ka o dodonu mo biuta...I myself as JESUS FOLLOWER i dont give my tithe to the church..but i usually gave to the homeless, or beggers..because that was the conviction of the HolySpirit in my life..Nawekaqu, God dont want us to be a slave to anything He want us to be free, and be joyful...I am someone who dont please man but only please GOD...rogoca, kevaka o solia tiko nomu tithe, qai sega ni saumi tiko na bill, sega ni ratou kana vinaka tiko na gone sa sega ni sotavi tiko na NEEDS ni matavuvale, kakua ni solia, ya e common sense ga,nanuma tiko na responsibility e solia taumada vei iko e liu na Kalou sai koya na nomu matavuvale..e vinaka cake mo solia vei dua e kere sede tu i taoni se dua na gone luveni yali se widow..baleta ya saraga o JISU.. ...baleta kevaka e laurai vakamalua..e sega ni dua naka e vuravura qo e noda, e nona kece na Kalou, na luvemu, nomu ilavo, nomu matavuvale even you... JESUS said"Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar and give to God what is God..Na Kalou e segani vinakata na nomu ilavo..OKOYA e vinakata ga mo vaqarai ira mai na sipi esa yali tu me lesu tale vei KOYA.(finding lost sheep)vei koya, baleta na yalo kece e nona...Sa rauta mada na lako tiko i valenilotu,baleta e lai double taki tale mai vei kemuni na icolacola...that is why Jesus came and die on the cross..so that we may have our individual relationship with God.. and not thru tala2 or elder or priest...o talatala e sega ni mai mate ena kauvelatai mo bula kina o iko, e sega ni o talatala qase se o cei ga na iliuliu ni nomu lotu..BUT it is JESUS Christ...kakua ni rerevaki tala2 ia mo rerevaka ga na Kalou..o tala2 e tamata ga vakai iko..We are living under the GRACE of GOD but not under law..If you live under law you will not have eternal life. Tovolea mada mo wilika na Romans..ena qai vakamatata taka vei iko na nona loloma na Kalou(GRACE)..To God be the GLORY..Forever n ever..God Bless..

Anonymous said...

The name of the church will not take you to heaven...did the Methodist crucified for you?? or Did the New Methodist crucified for you?? Or the Catholic crucified for you, or the All Nation crucified for you?? or the C.M.F?? or the C.O.C or the C.C.C or the Seventh Days , or the Assembly of God?? Absolutely NOT..IT is the CHRIST JESUS WHO crucified for you..so let put a stop my friend..stop glorifying your church and your talatala but give back the Glory to GOD..which HE truly deserve..Me da dau qarauna sara vakavinaka, na italatala, se qase ni lotu, se lewe ni lotu vakarisito..na ka kece meda cakava tiko mena laurai duadua tiko ga kina na gone Turaga o JISU, me kakua ni da laurai kina o keda..ya gona e curu mai kina na spirit of competition, religious spirit, spirit of jezebel, spirit of antichrist etc..etc..If you really know the God you are serving than you'll know where to stand..

Anonymous said...

au via vadodonu taki kemudou ga na wekaqu,noqu matavuvale(new methodist)..o dou kaya tiko that we are the army of God but , we are not the Army of a living God but the angels..We are the embassador of the Living God. We, Human Beings..we have the relationship with God..but the angels they dont have the relationship with God, they are made to be a servant of God..To God be the Glory forever n ever..I hope that u will accept it..

abiel bernice said...

prasie the lord!!!
god is good and all the time He is always good!!!
to him be the glory forever and ever....AMEN!!!

I just want to let everyone that comments on the blog know...that without the Holy Spirit in your life...without the word of God in your life...you are nothing...as we are created in his image so be of as him in everyway....the way u speak, dress, act, walk and live your life everyday...
let not words of man be a stumbling block in your walk with the lord...trust in him and he will direct your path...let his word be a light to your path and direct u in the way he wants you to go...be an example in everything you do and whatever you do, do it heartly as to the lord and not man....coz wat we do here on earth, we will be judged in the end...we will be judge according to our own conducts....so matter wat we say or do...we have will face God in the end and answer to our ways....

Who are we to have the right to judge wat others do or believe....we mind our own business in daily lives and just serve our god with all that we have...people say that there are problems...the main problem is you yourself...just be still in god's word and he will show you things that are unseen in the eyes of man..

I as a daughter of zion....hereby declare that there is no other god than JESUS CHRIST....and also want you to know that if you know your God...you know where you stay!!!

To Qase Levu and Aunty Rai...I thank the Lord for your lives...Vinaka Vakalevu na vosota

May the Lord bless you in your walk with him....and to Pst. Ophia...thank you for being an example...God bless you lewa...
To the mission Girls...and boys...vinka na masu...
to church elders and pst and snr pst...vinaka...
to laucala office and malawai office...vinaka...
to jack lomani...vinka bro...god bless.

thank you all....and may god bless you in jesus name...

Anonymus said...

Vei kemudou saka na Taciqu na New Methodist...au vinakata meu vakaraitaka vei kemumudou e dua ga na ka.Kevaka dou sa okati kemudou mo dou sa "Army of the living God" well au vinakata meu na tukuna vei kemudou edai ni do sa sega ni tamata ia dou so agilosi bulavakatamata beka ena vuravura eda tiko nikua.Oi keimami na lewe ni lotu vakarisito we reckon ourselves to be the slaves of the living god...baleta ni cava e tukuna o Paula...give your boddy as a living sacrifice...meda solia na yagoda me nona bobula na kalou.

Anonymous said...

Our President was on youtube kindly loving and accepting the rights of gay people and their ceremony Adi Senikau. I have seen the latest picture of the atorney General on his Yoga session. My point is the role of the man of God in Fiji in addressing the 2 high authority in the land. What I have seen are Paganism of some sort from the very top. What is the spiritual state of the church. There has to be a common enemy for Christians. The situation is bigger than the inter denomination rivalry. Let us open the eyes to see the other perspective with the Love of GOD as the foundation. Bless our Risen Lord JESUS and Bless the appointed time in our nation

Anonymous said...

Praise the Lord...E sa matata sara tu ga vei keda na ka e volai tu ena vola tabu....sa kaya ga nai vola tabu mo solia nomu dua na i katini solia...solia vei Sisa na ka sa nei Sisa solia vua na Kalou na ka e nona na Kalou baleta ni sa sega na vosa ni kalou ki veikeda eda dau vosa tu vakalialia vacava mada ga mo sogota drakamu masu lolo muria na vosa ni kalou ena i volatabu...taciqu e kaya nai vola tabu vosa kecega e ca ko cavuta ko na tarogi kina ena siga ni lewa...qarauna na veika e dau cavuta se to qa ena website oqo...

Anonymous said...

Every man according as he purposes in his heart,so let him give;not grudgingly,or of necessity;for God loves a cheerful giver..2Cor 9:7.The biblical tithe was an ordinance of the Mosaic Law for the use and benefit of national Israel under the Old Covenant.The full tithe was given to the tribe of Levi,first,in exchange for his loss of land inheritance in Israel and,second,because of his servant service to his brothers in the Levitical house of Aaron who alone served as priests.A tenth of the first tithe was,in turn,given by the Levites to the priests who ministered at the alter.The basic tithe was not to be used for building houses of worship.Since pagan dust defiled,the original tithe consisted solely of the increase of the land produce from God's sanctified land of Israel and from the increase of animals herded on the land of Israel.Although the tithe could be exchanged for its monetary value,the tithe itself never consisted of money!A second(and third)tithe was also given to provide food for festival occasions, to provide welfare food for for widows,fatherless.orphans and needy strangers in Israel.A surprising biblical fact is that the poor did not pay tithes,but,instead,received from the tithe.Jesus did not tithe,nor did he sin by failing to tithe because he was poor and did not own land or herd animals for his sustenance.The poor were only expected to give free will offerings to the best of their ability.One thing we have to remember that tithes were not from money,eventhough money exists at that time.Genesis alone contains "money" in 32 texts and the word occurs 44times before the tithe is first mentioned in Leviticus 27.The word shekel also appears often from Genesis to Deutoronomy.In fact many centuries before Israel entered Cannan and began tithing food from God's Holy Land money was essential everyday item.For example money in the form of silver shekels paid for slave(Gen 17:12);land(Gen23:9);freedom(Ex 23:11);court fines(Ex21all;22all);sanctuary dues(Ex 30:12);vows(Lev 27:3-7)marriage dowries(Deu 22:29)etc,etc.Despite all this fact,tithe never include money.Tithing is a scam nowadays ,used by greedy preachers just to fill their pockets.Its a false teaching that goes back to the time of Oral Roberts.He is the the one who usher this false teaching and spreads like fire to the Body of Christ.Tithing is an "ordinance" which is a part of the Old Testament Law and Numbers 18 is the legislative wording of the ordinance which includes tithing.However,Jesus Christ Abolished Law and Ordinance.Eph2:12-16 That at time you were without Christ,being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel,and strangers from the covenant of promise,having no hope,and without God in the world.But now,in Christ Jesus,you who sometimes were far off are made near by the blood of Christ.For he is our peace,who has made both one,and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,having abolished in his flesh the enemity,even the law of commandments contained in ordinances,to make in himself of two one new man,so making peace.And that he might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross,having slain the enmity thereby.We as believers are under Grace and not under the Law.New Testament giving is a sacrificial motivated by love and the Holy Spirit.Christian giving is an important part of the "new nature" believers have in Christ.Christians give,not because of any commandment or threatened curse for not giving,but because giving is part of their new nature.

THE TRUTH IS IN THE BIBLE said...

FOR ALL U THAT HATE ATU & NEW METHODIST N WHAT IT STAND 4...B4 U PASS A COMMENT TAKE TYM 2 ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GUIDE N CONTROL URE EMOTIONS.U ARE EITHER 4 GOD OR AGAINST HIM.ATU IS THE CHOSEN MAN OF GOD FOR THIS TYM N THIS HOUR WHERETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT.THE NEW METHODIST IS THE MOVE OF GOD IN FIJI NOW.SO WAKE UP B4 GODS LOVE 4 U PASSES U BY.IF U ARE NOT SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED THEN ALL U WILL B GUD @ IS POINTING FINGERS AND PASSINGS COMMENTS.U DONT WANT TO B UP AGAINST GOD WHEN HE IS TRYING TO SAVE SOULS USING A MAN WHO HAS THE BALLS TO FACE UP TO U N AND U BLIND NON BELIVERS.SO ASK URESELFS ARE U ALSO GODS CHILD OR THE DEVILS.....

Unnecessary DRAMA said...

Not sure where the above raving paid lunatic @ 12.55 came from but the option of "Either For God or Against Atu" is such an easy choice for me: I am For God for I am a child of God. Period.

Don't know much about the Oqori-na-kei-Atu christian sect except for the fact that they used PUBLIC FUNDS (which is still unaccounted for to this day) to set up, buy vehicles etc when his older brother Teleni was police commissioner.... the latter also played his role to a hilt by forcing police officers (irrespective and regardless of their individual faith), to go sing songs, jump up and down at sukuna park and wave at the sky above those big baka trees.