#header-inner img {margin: 0 auto !important; #header-inner {text-align: Center ;} Fiji Coupfourpointfive: Egypt continues Day of Rage: Fiji should be watching and learning

Saturday, January 29, 2011

Egypt continues Day of Rage: Fiji should be watching and learning

CLASHES: Demonstrators hold their ground.

"Down, Down, Hosni Mubarak." .... "This protest is not going to stop. They won't and can't trick the people again and give us some lame concessions. Hosni has to go."  ..... "I am 70 years old, I am going to die, but these people have to fight to live."-VOICES FROM THE PROTESTS

Demonstrations have continued in Egypt despite rising casualty numbers, with protesters saying they want an end to the 30-year dictatorship government of Hosni Mubarak.

Mubarak has sent troops and armoured cars onto the streets of Cairo, Alexandria and Suez in the fourth day of Egypt's Day of Rage, a campaign for liberation, sparked originally by the Tunisian fight for democracy.

The death toll is rising with media reports saying today that more than a thousand have been hurt from clashes with security forces using rubber bullets, tear gas and water cannon to disperse crowds and running battles over the past few days.

Protests today have been the strongest yet with hundreds of thousands of people fighting police, troops and burning  buildings associated with Mubarak.

At least 26 people have been killed in the fourth day of protests, putting the number of dead since the protests began earlier this week at 33.

Mubarak's officials are threatening more violence but protesters say they're fed up with the lack of freedom, the unemployment, the poverty and corruption.

And in a clear sign of being under pressure, Mubarak himself has a short time ago broken his silence to address the nation, close to midnight local time. Predictably, he has tried to save his 30 year reign by pledging to sack his cabinet and bring in a new and more democratic government.

Many of the protesters are young men and women, who correspond and network on blogs, Facebook and Twitter, or people who've had an English education. Very few are the older generation.

Prominent activist Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Peace Laureate, has returned to Egypt to march with supporters.

Two thirds of Egypt's 80 million people are below the age of 30 and many have no jobs. About 40 percent of Egyptians live on less than $2 a day.

Egypt has been under emergency rule throughout Mubarak's term in office. The government says it is used to combat terrorism. Critics say it is used to stifle dissent.

Elections were due to be held in September but it was feared Mubarak would remain in control or bring in a successor - his 47-year-old son, Gamal. The demonstrations in Tunisia and Yemen tipped the discontent over.

The uprising across the three countries has put the United States in a sticky position. It professes to want democracy to spread across the Middle East yet Mubarak has been a close Washington ally for many years and the recipient of huge amounts of military aid.

Observers believe Mubarak will be forced out, just as as Tunisia's Ben Ali was ousted to weeks ago. But it's feared the Egyptian security apparatus, which over the years has developed a vested interest in the survival of Mubarak's regime, will try to crush political dissent.

The other obstacle for demonstrators is the challenge to turn the popular outcry into a coherent political opposition.  (Original source BBC)

In the ongoing debate about where to for Fiji, Coupfourpointfive asks:

1. Would the people of Fiji ever have the strength to rally as the people in Yemen, Tunisia and Egypt have done?

2. Is the size of the population an issue?

3. Are there people on the ground to lead the movement and make it worth the risk?


Jake said...

I am afraid my Fijians brothers are all talk with very little substance.

They are nothing but weaklings with mouths as wide as the gusuni daveta.

What my brothers are lacking is a very effective leader with nous to boot.

Maybe I am the man to lead the charge.


Anonymous said...

Not gonna happen in fiji I am sorry. Poor and rural lot are a lot happier under frank than any other govt. So no chance.

Anonymous said...

The writing is on the wall for Baineeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Out with the dictator!!! Freedom to the people!!!!

Freedom said...

Ruling by decree, without being accountable to anyone and not being scrutinized by the fourth estate has a considerable advantage: Reforms and changes can be brought about much faster than in a democratic society. There is no doubt, that pre-coup Fiji badly needed some reforms that would have been hard to legislate under the FLP/SDL government. So Bainimarama took over claiming to clean up corruption, remove racism, establish a fair electoral system and build a strong economy through removing red tape. Many have supported this original agenda. In the meantime, however, supporters seem to grow weary and ask a legitimate question: Why would it take 8 years to put in place these reforms, given the speed by which a dictatorial regime can act? The answer is as disturbing as it is simple and obvious: It is just scale economies! Or better the scale of the Fiji economy. Mobutu Seze Seko, the infamous African dictator managed to steal 2 billion dollars in one single year from Zaire’s mining sector. Clearly, this sort of money does not flow through the Fijian economy. Hence, Banimarama a garden-variety dictator with a strong sense of self-preservation and self interest (as he has so blatantly demonstrated with his 30 years leave pay out of $ 200,000 and his salary arrangement with Aiyaz’ aunty) needs more time to fill his and his cronies accounts. This is the only plausible reason why elections cannot be held earlier despite the severe penalties Fiji has to pay in lost opportunities, lost revenue and lost aid. But this simple explanation also hints at a solution to the current crisis: Just ask Aiyaz and Frank how much they need to go away and pay them out as Bainimarama paid himself out his leave. Even if Fiji paid them 100 million US$ each to go the country would be much better off. And don’t forget that there are many indications that Aiyaz and Frank have no intention to go in 2014. Pay them out. Let them go to Saudi Arabia or Hong Kong or wherever disposed dictators go nowadays. Fiji is too small and cannot afford to bleed for 30 years under this dictatorship as Egypt and Tunisia did!

Anonymous said...

Yes, we will continue to watch revolutions take place around the world.

However, Fiji is NOT ready for that.

We have not displayed a level of maturity to deserve the inevitable... i.e. a complete overthrow of this authoritarian regime.

The answer has always been with us. But when Fiji is ready, she'll get it..

In the meantime though, let's continue to suffer together :))

mark manning said...

Hopefully, Democracy in action !

Anonymous said...

Ratu Said.
fiji people have no guts.
people have to be united and the leaders all gone quiet.
when will these leaders will lead the protest march and fight for the people rights.
wake up and fight for your right now.
if not than just be subject to ag taliban and bani govt.

Anonymous said...

@annon1213 why don't you come and march, levu ga na vosa, tamata vodoka tiko na basi ni taveuni. We the grassroots here in Fiji are content with the current regime, so all you people calling for mass demonstrations can go to hell. Fiji is not the middle east. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 6:11 If you want to pay them you go right ahead with your own money. As for me and the other 700,000 people that pay tax we think they should get the justice they deserve for murder and for treason!

The Noose Tightens said...

Tik Tok....Tik Tok...

Anonymous said...

Ahhhh!!! forget poeple of Fiji will ever rise , if it was against Indians then it may be but I am sorry to write Fijians can't,cowards

Anonymous said...

This revolutionary force is global. Egypt will fall, then jordan, syria, saudi Arabia, Mideast, Africa, Asia, SAmerica.All dictators at this current time will fall...whether thye like it or not. Fiji is in line.

mark manning said...

@ Jake
your not even man enough to use your true identity !

Anonymous said...

Ratu Said.
Fijian are only united to fight and march against the indian.we saw that in 1987/2000.
Now fijian govt was coup in 2006.-no march.
We have be fair and fight for our freedom.

Jake said...

Mark The Skunk.

Why my boy I have used nothing but my true identity without the surname of course.


Leone said...

Yes YES there will be three fronts of demonstrators,one of which will be for democracy movement, the army and the one with most supporters will be called stragetic framework for change under Frank movement.The likely scenario will be an ugly bloodbath to the democracy movent supporters as they will be very small in numbers compared to Franks movement

fiji loyal said...

would love to see fiji returnn to democracy with a news start so lets get busy identifying leaders who can assume leadership roles....

let's also start developing future leaders, those with potential wbo are in our universities and the like and even in sports, and the church.

The whole nation has to be prepared, other countries like south africa have done it; there were birthing and teething pains and it's not perfecty by any means but coups, like apartheid must end to allow us to have starting point again.

fiji loyal said...

fiji loyal again, folks:

south africa was fortunate to have nelson mandela; he was part of the struggle from the very beginning and even while in jail stayed true to the principles of justice and truth and had the integrity to rise above the corruption and other weaknesses that brought others down, including his own wife.

true to say we don't have a Madabi of our own but we have within in our midst leaders from a lower level, people who have the CV to be in government and who has the common sense to serve the counctry as a whole ie indian and fijian and to keep their hands out of the till.

basically,someone who is aware that they are working for the good of fiji not the good of himself. too hard? surely not

Fiji Loyal said...

ps if fact there are any number of intelligent, committed people surfacing on this blog, those of us with opinions, a sense of right for themselves and the country. we are certainly a divided nation at the moment but the challenge is on us to be ready for the opportunity to step up.

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of unemployed youths in Fiji, particularly Fijians, who pass time taking part in youth activities organised by their religious organizations or participate in sports like rugby, soccer, netball, volleyball etc.

This is how they avoid being idle and seem oblivious to the political situation. But they do understand that they are living at the expense of others, not contributing to the family livelihood but at least keep out of trouble.

But how long will they continue to live this way when the time comes for them to have their own family to look after. This is when the reality sets in.

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