#header-inner img {margin: 0 auto !important; #header-inner {text-align: Center ;} Fiji Coupfourpointfive: A reader writes to Frank

Saturday, February 12, 2011

A reader writes to Frank

MESSAGE IGNORED: Written by a local a couple of days before Bainimarama went ahead with his 2006 coup.

Dear Commodore,

I'm sure you have been following with interest the protests in Tunisia and Egypt, which has led to the downfall of two dictators.

Many years ago, no one would have thought this possible. But times have now changed.

It all began in Tunisia with the ousting of President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali after 23 years in power.

Ben Ali became President in 1987 in a bloodless coup and since then has been re-elected with enormous majorities at every election. During the 2009 elections, the US sent international observers there who indicated that Tunisia had not permitted the monitoring of the election.

In December and January, riots and protests against his government escalated, causing him to finally flee.

Take note.

Inspired by Tunisia, Egyptians too began protests 18 days ago demanding the resignation of their dictator President for 30 years, Hosni Mubarak.

At the start of the protests, Social media like Facebook and Twitter were used to get people together to protest.

Bloggers were intimidated and beaten up for uploading videos and information about the protests but this did not stop them.

The army stood by their President - in the process many people were killed and many more were injured.

Following this the army changed their tune and said they would not hurt any protesters.

Last week Mubarak addressed the protesters saying he would not seek re-election in the presidential elections in September.

The people said Get Out.

As the protests continued, Mubarak gave another address yesterday, saying he would transfer some power to his deputy but would not step down until September.

The people did not buy the bullshit. They said Get Out.

The military council  had meetings without Mubarak, discussing what they should do.

Overnight Mubarak suddenly resigned and fled to his vacation home in the Red Sea with his family.

Rumours are he was given an ultimatum by the military. Yes, it was sort of a military coup against the dictator.

Take note.

Commodore, please remember this quote by the former US attorney general Robert Francis Kennedy:
"Each time a man stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.”

Just like Tunisia and Egypt, the people of Fiji too will stand up and fight.

The time may not be right at the moment, but it will happen one day.

Then you, like Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali and Hosni Mubarak, will go down in history as a dictator who was booted out by the people.

Take note.

I only pray that you do right by the people  and give Fiji the democratic civilian government it deserves, free of soldiers, before it is too late.

Yours sincerely,
M (since I certainly will probably be beaten up for this letter, you will only know me as M)

In the ongoing debate about where to for Fiji, Coupfourpointfive asks:

1. Are there similarities between Fiji and the Middle Eastern countries (Tunisia, Yemen and Egypt) that have rallied against dictatorships in recent weeks?

2. What are those similarities and can the people of Fiji benefit from the experience of Egypt?


Anonymous said...

The similarity is so simple...the writer feels the need to just sign M.His/her fear of reprisal is the very reason both Tunisia and Egypt rose up .I fear though that for the majority of Fijians the assertion of their democratic rights and freedom is a step far,far too far.

Anonymous said...

Your have manipulated Ratu Josefa Iloilo and the military through lies and deceit for your own benefits.The Bible said, "The heart is deceitfull above all things, And desperately wicked; who can know it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to every man according to His ways, according to the fruits of His doing." (Jeremiah 17:9-10) You overthrow a democratically elected government and abrogated the constitution of Fiji. The Bible said "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authority that exists are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resist the authority resist the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgement on themselves." (Romans 13:1-2) You have rule this country by force for the last five years with your self appointed illegal government through your illegal decree (the unrighteous authority) against the will of the people of Fiji. Remember that God is still on His throne and He is still in controll of every thing including your very breath and your very heart beat. The Bible said, "For God is King of all the earth. God reigns over the nations; God sits on His throne." (Psalm 45:6-8) In His own time He will deliver us from your dirty hands because He promised, "The Lord execute righteousness and judgement for all that are oppressed." (Psalm 103:6) You have tried to paint yourself and all your cohorts as the good guys by blaming the good people of corruption through witchhunt and trump up charges. The Bible said, "Woe to them who say evil good and good evil, who say light darkness and darkness light, who put bitter to sweet and sweet to bitter. Therefore as the fire devours the stubble, and the flame consumes the chaff, so their root will be as rotteness, And their blossom will ascend like dust." (Isaiah 5:20,24) Nothing is working and everything is shaking in your illegal government because you have already dug your own grave and you are caught in your own trap. The Bible said, "The heathen are sunk down in the pit he has made; in the net which they hid in, their own foot is caught...the wicked is snared in the works of their hands." (Psalm 9:15,16,17)."The wicked is banished in his own wickedness." (Proverbs 14:32 ). "..the wicked will not go unpunished." (Proverbs 11:21) Though God is long suffering, He will never compromise His justice. Your days are numbered and this is the writing on the wall for you Voreqe Bainimarama, your cohorts and all those who supports you .

Anonymous said...

Hear! Hear! @ letter writer M.

Anonymous said...

There are many similarities like widespread poverty and unemployment, high prices and lack of opportunities that are present in Fiji as in Egypt.

In Egypt they eventually fueled the revolution that has led to the downfall of Mubarak. It took them 30 years but they go there in the end. I believe the main reason being that Eqypt is a strategically important country in the Arab/African region and was propped up by the US.

As for Fiji we are not as strategically important in the same sense as Egypt and apart from recent support from China have not received any massive aid from the US etc. Our economy therefore is weaker and more exposed.

The effect of the economic malaise will hit us much quicker and far more pronounced. I do not believe therefore that the current regime will last 30 years like Mubarak's regime in Eqypt.

On a more positive note however I believe that we in Fiji can identify a path back to democracy unlike in Egypt which has had to depend on the military to manage the transitional phase.

In Fiji we have had court decisions that have stated in the Chandrika Prasad case that the 1997Constitution can only be abolished by Parliament, which means that the constitution is very much alive today contrary to the purported abolishment by Iloilo in 2009.

Furthermore, the Court of Appeal in 2009 laid out a path to democracy for the President to follow, which Iloilo ignored, that included the appointment of an interim government and elections within 6 months.

But we need in Fiji is to get to the stage where we can implement the path identified by the Court of Appeal.

To get there we will of course need to remove the Bainimarama regime. This is where we should draw some encouragement and hope from what the people of Tunisia and Egypt have achieved.

Manuqalo said...

1.Ans:Too little.
2.Ans: Only similarity between Fiji, Tunisia and Egypt are; (a)All were colonised although by different colonisers, (b)Military illegal rule, (c)Minority ownership of economy by the rich while majority are getting poorer, (d) 3 Leaders all hypocrites, (e)Corruption exists despite change of leadership - the past, the present and if Fiji does not change it attitude, the future too.

Too many non-similarities however. (1)Fiji is so tiny compared to the other 2, (2) Its very size makes it easier to control, (3)Fiji dominated by Christians and the other 2 by Muslims, (4)Small size makes it easier for Frank to access as many people possible and 'vesumona' them, (5)Even if we say we're poor, we'll still eat because there is fish in the sea and fruits and crops growing wildly on the land, (6) Fijians are generally forgiving people, (7) When Tunisians and Egyptians are down, they scream, protest and prepare to die, BUT, when Fijians are down, we cry quietly, sing, play, dance and pray.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much "M" for the very candid advice to the Vore. Thank you also for voicing what we all right thinking people are thinkling and want. But unfortunately, for the Vore and his bunch of thieves [ the President, the Ministers, the Judiciary, from the CJ down, the Permanent Secretaries, the Military Council, the Military, all the illegal appointees to Boards etc, the whole bang lot] it is too late now to turn back
For them. giving us democracy would mean:
01. Going to Naboro for the rest of their lives [for the killings, the abrogation of the Constitution, the illegal decrees etc etc]
02. The muslim 'samei'[IN THE FORM OF THE KAIYUMS, THE DEANS, THE MOHAMMEDS ETC]] is far too sweet to give it [democracy/leadership] to somebody else [what with the thieving, the unaccountability, the corruption, the high horse they are riding, the lasa-i-tubas, the attention, the appointment of family members/friends to government and other bodies, etc etc] and
03. Because of their pea [ maybe "pee" would be more fitting!] brains, lack of grey matter, lack of depth, lack of understanding of the basics, renders them ALL unmarketable for jobs both in government and civvy street.
So, where to from here you may ask.
I well tell you - nowhere - the status quo remains. As long as they are alive, we will NOT have our God-given democratic right, UNLESS and I stress UNLESS the Egyptian scenario is re-enacted here!!
'ALLAH AKHBAR' 'ALLAH AKHBAR' like they say in Egypt.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 2.09 - And breed like rabbits!

convolutedexperiment said...

The only allegiance it seems amongst Fijians, is not their clan, their village or their Chiefs, but their pay packets.
Poverty breeds contempt of Government institutions and greedy, egotistical, uneducated, unGodly people are prepared to drop their values and their pants, for a few bread crumbs, or as the Soldiers of the RFMF call it, " bread and butter " !

Fijians, many of them, can talk the talk, Jesus this and God that, but they can't walk the walk.
Hypocrisy and fake Christianity is ripe amongst Fijians.

Interestingly, they can't retain much in the way of memory, and so repeat the same mistakes every so many years.
Coup after coup after coup.

convolutedexperiment said...

My view is that Fijians, currently have the Administration they deserve.

NO CAN DO said...

I learnt from a reliable source that there are many applications with both the Australian and NZ Governments from Fiji political asylum seekers. I suspect, bloggers who continue to encourage those of us who live in Fiji to rise up against this illegal and corrupt regime would just love to see mayhem in Fiji, to further justify their applications gathering dust at the Immigration departments of Aust. and NZ. Sorry Beka!

convolutedexperiment said...

You have to ask the coup supporters, why are Fijians leaving Paradise ?

It is a bit of a giggle though, the people responsible for the coup, the RFMF etc. couldn't go to Australia even if they wanted to !
No wonder they put down the people applying to leave Fiji on this and other sites, just plain jealousy for self inflicted situation.

Turn other cheek said...

manuqalo@2.09pm You've captured the spirit of the Fiji people quite well: I just saw a picture of Qarase's last hours on this blog and, you're right the people were not strategising or fighting, they were praying and singing. Take comfort, it's a Pacific wide thing but such a disadvantage in these times when we could do with ourselves proud with a race that is less passive. Coiupled with Fiji being such a small population, we're easier to control as has been pointed out by another commentator on this page.

Brothers in Arms said...

The one similarity tht stands out to me is this: like all dictators Bainimarama (as with Mubarak) does not want to release his stranglehold on the country - despite the obvious staring him in the face. Like Mubarak, Bainimarama will lie bare faced to the people using whatever 'myths' he can to make out ALL of the people are happy and that FOREIGNERS are causing mischief. And like Mubarak (he had millions if not billions salted away) Bainimarama is looking after him and his own. The one possible difference is this - the people of Fiji want Vore to face the courts and be jailed for his crimes against the nation but Mubarak has (for the meantime) been allowed to leave the country, so desperate were the people of Egypt for him to go.

mark manning said...

Mubarak has handed Authority to the Military and stood down !

Anonymous said...

history does repeat ... maybe egypt & tunisia got their que from fiji ... In 2000 fiji got an unelected leader ... qarase ... the courts later ruled his govt illegal and ordered the restoration of the elected govt ... qaease ignored this ruling ... later holding the (agriculture) scam elections and subsequently the rigged 2006 elections .. all throughout this period the military repeatedly urged qarase to fix his ways ... he ignored the military ... emboldened by the intoxicating power he thought he had he continued to pursue divisive policies like the qoliqoli bill ... the reconciliation and amnesty bill ... all the while fleecing every source of money he could get his hands on including nearly bankrupting the countrys pension fund (FNPF)... however just like in Egypt the Military said enough is enough and drove qarase and his government out of power ... freeing the people of fiji ... the current military government is by no means perfect but the people of fiji understand that little by little day by day we are all changing for the better ... lets hope Egypt gets similar blessings ...

mark manning said...

This coup is not Frank's doing, there are more sinister motives behind it and far more dangerous people than Frank Bainimarama.
He is just a tool, in several ways !
It really looks to me like there is a movement to take over fiji and establish an Islamic state and Fiji was targeted because fijians are caught up in this christian revolution and can be manipulated and turned against one another, clan against clan, chief against chief, village against village and while all this is going on, the Regime and it's inventors slowly suck the life out of your Community and the money.

Anonymous said...

Please brothers , Don't write off the Fijians too quickly. It took the Tunisians 23 yrs and the Egyptians 30 yrs. We've only had these termites for 4 years.
Unfortunately I have to agree with @Convoluted Experiment, that the soldiers only allegiance is to money, so Bai continues to rob everyone else inorder to keep his termites happy.
I've always advocated that we lobby the UN to cut off this money supply.
ie for the UN to send all Fiji soldiers home straight away.
I tell you all this nonsense will end immediately.

Anonymous said...

@ M&M.

Familiar with coups - one's worth watching in any military are the young ambitious ones - those with clean skins - known colloquially as Young Turks.
Every military contains them - comes with the territory.

Tiger Balm said...

Well said "M"
Just like Egypt, Bainimarama will have elections in 2014, as he says, but it will be rigged and he will only prop up people he wants as candidates, I won't be surprised if he is top of the list!
Bainimarama planned to be like Mubarak, become President then stay in the position for years.
And that could still happen
His mate Nailatikau is just there for show because the world is watching.

Anonymous said...

Tiger Balm - The coconut wireless tells me that the Vore will be the next Pressy. Nailatikau has been given NOTICE to vacate Govt House by months end. Arse will be the new PM.
Digging in, are they not??
Let's all be mentally prepared for the long haul!!!!

mark manning said...

Line the sites up with Frank and Aiyaz @ the same time, why waste to bullets ?

I did say I give Frank one week from the late President's funeral to make his move !

And they call me disrespectful.

So has anyone realised yet that this was their plan from before December the 5th. 2006 ?

I'll bet that they didn't expect the late president to last so long though !

Other than that, they are on track for total domination of Fiji and its people.

All this, just to keep Frank from going to trial for the killings and torture of the 5 CRW Soldiers in 2000.

Don't the Soldiers in the RFMF feel stupid that they have supported this band of losers ?

Isn't it time they put a stop to all of this, before it's too late ?

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

Good questions, linking Democracy to Leadership as a Communication/Management issue. On similarities these are:

1. The Economic Model of the old order is outdated – The ‘elite’ central power model with its inherent systems and processes, not only increased benefits to the few but also increased poverty and environmental degradation at a global level. On a daily scale we see the evidence of this model implemented for their greed (Anonymous, Feb 12th 1.08pm).
2. This old economic model did NOT allow the normal process of communication and ‘feedback’ from the decision makers’ own balance sheets, debt management and derivatives and research for the people to drive change from the grassroots, but rather snuffed those processes out by manipulating the systems to their greedy advantages (Global Financial Crises).
3. However, for these two similarities to benefit the people of Fiji and add value and balance to the national budget, communication feedback from the people must be allowed, on their differences as expressed in human values e.g. ethnicity, religion, culture, heroes, heroines, foods (recipes), language, art, fashion, stories, myths and morals/ethical standards via constitutional institutions and law and order (Anonymous, Feb 12th 2.04pm and Manuqalo Feb 12th 2.09).
4. But the present regime, has suppressed these human values or differences (PER, governing by Decrees in Media and Criminal and John Samy’s Peoples Charter), scientifically known as market differentiators and segments for research analysis on what is significant and what is not in order to remove bias. For Fiji’s 21st Century needs, suppressing information, as capital is counter productive, where vb, ask’s and the military juntas policies are creating a bigger ‘gap’ due to their bias. This ‘hole’ cannot be accounted, only measured as debt in the National Budget and yet must be paid for by the peoples taxes. This is evil.
5. Additionally, in suppressing human values, as information capital, human capital development is also snuffed out. So, how can these new forms of capital be factored into the national budget? They can’t as vb, ask and the military policies are preventing and abusing the people’s rights to be informed, assemble, be heard and decide on what those policies should be. Furthermore, by snuffing that out, alignment to the Fiji Constitution 1997/1998 and its processes as designed in the spirit of the Constitution, for hope and rational changes are also snuffed out. The ability to rationalize changes within the Constitution and Parliamentary process, has never been allowed for reform that add value NOT cost while changing from the old order to the new.
6. Therefore, I disagree with Anonymous February 13th 1.20am, because SDL policies, as in our manifesto and vision, were researched and representative of the people’s ownership and property rights for peaceful change and transfer of power that can be negotiated.
7. For the Middle East and Fiji, Dictatorship is the downfall. In Fiji this prevented professional management of information tools, systems and processes within the new economic order (National Strategic Development Plans 2002-2006 rolled over to 2011 linked to Millennium Development Goals (2004/5) and Bilateral Aid) to serve the people of Fiji with dignity and authenticity.

Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni

Fiji First said...

Brothers and sisters (and interested politicians like Dr Mere) let's keep watching and learning from Egypt - they are now in the grip, albeit temporarily control, of the military. The people have put their demands to the Higher Military Council, including removing the emergency laws and the country is moving towards free elections, within the year, if not 9 months. How Egypt proceeds from here is something Fiji must watch closely and take lessons from.

Jake said...


The people of Fiji will have to decide for themselves the kind of leadership they want. No one is going to do it for them.

Be warned said...

Anon @ 13/2, 2.23pm. If Aiyaz does become PM, the Fijians will be easier to mobilise against this illegal regime. Frank has a natural appeal to the people because he is casual, upfront, has the common touch and is a family man. They love him. BUT, putting Aiyaz as PM will be the cause for the downfall of this regime.

Anonymous said...

M, the theory is yours and is shared by the many like minded others who use this site - that Bainimarama squashed out a 'legitimate' and 'democratic' government.

A government fused with corrupt and arrogant people who manipulated the interests and welfare of the i taukei for personal, political and economic gain?

The struggle is not with Bainimarama and his crew, it is with the i taukei as a people, to unite, promote their collective rights and take on the responsibility (democratic) of securing their future in this great country that is rightfully should always be theirs.

Anonymous said...

Military deposed corrupt Mubarak and people in Egypt are happy.

Bainimarama deposed corrupt Qarase and people here are very happy with that( apart from the gravy train riders)

Long live the armies of both countries.

Savasava said...

Fiji is a small country and you cant relate it to the situation in Egypt where we deals with millions of people. They are non-christian and their network is strong.
We are mostly Christian and we have our culture and respect, we have blood related families all over Fiji - you speak against someone in the Yasawas within a minute its known in Ono i lau.

Leone said...

You gotta look at the reasons behind their uprising before u talk.these countries had been under dictatorship rule for tensand tens of years and they need to change.In fiji it is about reforms of all our laws that had been put in place during the colonial era to only suit their agendas.That needs to change now and Frank' is the only best man for the job,we are in last faces of the work so I am urging you to remainn patient

Savasava said...

Leono is right..lets give the IG time to clean up thee mess ... FDB, FNPF , Unit Trust of Fiji,FHL , NBF , EMF , NLTB , Agriculture , Education, Health ...they corrupted this Nation from the 80's till 2007. IG is the only adminstration that legalised the FICAC to investigate corruption.

God will tell showthe truth.

nayacakalou said...

@Leone and Savasava.....these people,are not working within the law,as you have seen that FICAC is abusing its power,and not to mention it is an illegal practice,as it was formed by an illegal group.Where is the privacy act,when people are exposed,even if investigated ? No ones name should be advertised unless ruled by the court of law.Where is justice when the Court and FICAC,are clearly working together in abusing the people of Fiji ? We clearly can see why the Fijian people being sacked,and overseas people being used,because they do not care,we are not related and they do what they are told or else.I think for you Leone and Savasava should learn to live the life of doing what is right.