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Friday, February 4, 2011

Source: Military were paid to beat Renee Lal

The Renee Lal story takes a turn today with a claim military were paid to beat the Suva lawyer.

Coupfourpointfive can't say where the information came from of course, but reiterate that our source has been reliable from the outset and is from within the military ranks.


We note, too, that there are aspects of this fraud that have yet to be revealed, perhaps via this blog or via the investigation the FICAC is supposed to be carrying out.


But we can today release the information that Renee Lal was beaten about her head with a full bottle of water and that her beating was apparently organised by an army officer by the name of Ben Naliva.


The officer is believed to be part of the illegal leader Frank Bainimarama's personal security detail. And it's claimed, as we said, that he was given $10,000 to ensure Lal got beaten.


The obvious question is - if this is true as we have been told, who would pay for this to be done and why? The full answers will come but to jog reader's memories: Lal is accused of fleecing a foreign investor by the name of Freeman under false pretences (and details of him are sketchy still) with the help of an accomplice, Ben Padarath. 

The kicker is that Frank's name was used by Lal and Padarath to 'oil' their scam and one of the more juicier claims was that they prised $30,000 out of the so-called investor, supposedly for Frank's Christmas expenses.


Our military sources have also now told us that Renee Lal's husband was with her when she was arrested at Nausori Airport last Friday morning, when she tried to fly out to New Zealand. Lal's husband is Amani Bale, a former lawyer for the Fiji military.


Footnote: A traumatised Lal is receiving counselling for her beating.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ratu Said
why we hit a lady.let the law take its course.
Only qori hit woman .
It would be good to know .
why did freeman paid money to get oil & gas deal.
isnt this bribe and freeman should be charged too.
freeman should have followed the law and due process set by mrd and ftib.
reene and ben including freeman should be charged for corruption.

Radiolucas said...

Extortion by the Regime? Maybe they want more than their $30k fee?

Regardless, Renee Lal does not deserve this at all.

sara'ssista said...

of course Croz would see nothing contradictory in the police commish demanding that police know the the 2009 domestic violence decree by April, but the governments own thugs beating upa woman. No sir. For all the bleatings about how we should be nice, polite, positive and constructive , Croz is never keen to decry the appalling treatment handed out by the military before some has even been charged. Credibility anyone ??

Anonymous said...

Well this gets more and more interesting. If proven true it looks like the once world reonowned Fiji army has gone from being Mercenaries for Baini to being Rent-a-thugs. Unfortunately I don't have a spare $10,000 lying around else I'd get Ben Naliva to give his boss a good beating around the head with a full bottle of Fiji Bitter.

Anonymous said...

$10k? Know a lot of people who would have done it for nothing.

Anonymous said...

what does this woman look like? A photo please

Anon. E. Mous. said...

Whats she complaining about?
Should think herself fortunate
she didn't suffer the same fate as those unfortunate CRW people.

Anonymous said...

Ratu Singh has a point that Freeman should be charged for corruption just as the Chinese got done by trying to corrupt sweet talker John Prasad...

Anonymous said...

She and sister fleeced $500k from another overseas person two years ago. Thoroughly deserves it. Dont care she is lady. Disgraceful behaviour by a lawyer. Rene, you are gtone. Bye bye,moce mada. Jao, Richard kei bus chalao!

Anonymous said...

The military & illegal regime is a threat to its own citizens.


They have killed innocent people, so beating someone with a bottle of water is non comparable. That is how they will see it because they have no brains & little capacity for understanding the basic human right and rule of law.

Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me if there is an ounce of proof for any accusations against Renee Lal? This regime is corrupt and there is no rule of law. I have heard from reliable and well placed sources (sounds familiar) the following:

Renee Lal did all the work at the law firm and Jamnadas did nothing. When she left the firm certain upset parties knew she had a lot of valuable information and in an attempt to prevent her from continuing her lucrative business arranged for her to be arrested - the Ghanain business man was paid to make this story up and hence why he has not been charged with anything. This arrest will probably end her career and she will have to flee Fiji. Renee Lal has a lot of information about corruption in the regime. There is no proof that she has any part in it.

mark manning said...

Frank and aiyaz are obviously distressed that someone else would think of a scam before they do !
They would have ordered the beating out of jealousy, Jealous that they weren't included in the take !

Anonymous said...

Egypt will be happening in Fiji soon and all these dogs will get the justice they deserve - Lal, Naliva and all the other crooks.

Varau taka na vatu vatakei na bitu- Na lovo qo na kamikamica - Voreqe, Kahaiyum vatakei na sotia boci ni viti.

Anonymous said...

I understand all the frustration and all what people know about this attorney and if she did what she is accussed of she should never be subjected to the beating. It is also a show of ignorance of the part of the military to continue this sort of treatment on civilians. They are showing and protraying that they can do whatever if paid....what if a civilian was paid to do the same....will they be charged for assault. Taking the Law into your own hands is not the way we were brought up and taught. The military should be the very ones upholding the Law, if what their commander said is anything to go by. What will the police do now are they just going to stand by and let that go...the precedence is now set, so if there comes a time when a civilian beats up another where does the Law come in.

Anonymous said...

Isa we are in the 21/22 Century and we still have sadists amongst us. What a bunch of bullies and sadists.Naliva and his bunch must have a great kick in beating people up - people who cannot defend themselves. Renee may have crossed the line, BUT, that does NOT give Naliva and Co the right to beat her up. Remember Naliva - one day you will end up like Driti - who tortured, maimed and killed people - where is he now?? One day, you will have to come out and live amongst us civilised people - no guns, no bodyguards, no uniforms - just your soresore and us. On day Mafato.

Jake said...

Radio PP.

Read Do Not Reply.

“Shit me. What is it with the Lal girls”

Firstly you ask the question as if you already knew the answer but what is important to note why place these two sisters in harm’s way?

“I heard some bad things about another scam Renee did for property in Suva a while back - the town will be abuzzing tonight”

You than go on to further besmirch Renée what sort of person are you?

“But if she and Aiyaz really do have a thing going on, I doubt that she will come to any strife - after all, he could just commute any sentence to another home detention”

Now you have become judge, jury and executioner it doesn’t say much for your character in fact I personally wouldn’t want you beside me in time of war.

Extortion by the Regime? Maybe they want more than their $30k fee?

This statement is not only suppositional but is fanciful knowing full well the author of this article couldn’t confirm authenticity.

“Regardless, Renee Lal does not deserve this at all”

Now after your foray into traducing this woman you half-heartedly or rather reluctantly made an attempt to show some sort of compassion.

What are we to make of this person? Most times I tend to be refined in my comportment when dealing with sensitive cases similar to this one.

However this person has descended into the depths of his youth and showed the lack of maturity in correspondence I can now take comfort in the fact this person is not only vacuous but his mendacity and hypocrisy is written for all to see.

Jake

Anonymous said...

Renee may have crossed the line, BUT it does NOT give Naliva and his bunch of thugs the right to torture her!! What a bunch of sadists. It is apparent that torture, ill treatment and murder of helpless people is now well and truly entrenched in the Military's 'code of Ethics' and 'Values'!! Rule by fear is the order of the day.
The teaching that the FMF's role is to protect the soveriegnty of the nation and the safety and well - being of its people is now out of the window.
As sure as the sun will rise and set tomorrow, one day, Naliva, one day, one day Mafato. You will come out of the comfort zone you are presently in and face the REAL world and REAL people - no guns, no bodyguards, no batman, no troops - just you and your soresore. One word of advice - take your que from your fellow thug Driti - where is he now?? Laying very, very low huh? Kua mada na vakateratera tiko. Dua na siga e da na qai mai sota e tuba!!!!

mark manning said...

$10,000 in Fijian money is a lot of bread and butter !
So that excuse is becoming a little bland and mute now isn't it ?
In the beginning, some people in fiji were stupid and gullible and naive enough to believe the " it's our bread and butter ' excuse, but this can't be justified, even if the Lady was guilty.
It really has a ring of Frank Bainimarama's assault, torture and murder of the 5 CRW Soldiers of 2000 doesn't it.
Who's next.

Anonymous said...

The ubiquitous Fijian Army!!!Quite right,rent a thug,rent a director,rent a private secretary,rent a Prime Minister,rent a President,rent a Minister,rent a crowd.Once we were warriors,once we were proud,once we had a global reputation as professional soldiers.Now,the reputation is more like whores,you pay us and we'll do you over.Sad,sad days.

Anonymous said...

Remember, we wanted Fijian village desciplinery or Fijian customary court to take care of the criminals.

Isn't this "kuita style" what the traditional Fijan punishment system is part of!!!

Afterall Fijian's are dishing out the punishment!!!

We love judicial system for all and sometimes a seperate one for the Fijian's.

Then we cry fowl and fall back on the word "constitution" and law within it.

This shows democracy to Fiji is much more than just an election...

Anonymous said...

Someone should "kuita" Bainimarama too. He is a corrupt criminal, stealing the government from the 800,000 people who voted it in. Who gave him the right to do that? Who says that he knows better than the rest of the 700,000 people?
He says that every one else shoukd get the "kuita" except him. And yet he has stolen millions left , right and centre.
All I can say is all you soldiers are a bunch of dickheads. You can't even distinguish between what is right and what is wrong.
Why are you still supporting Bai?
Who has shut your mouth? Come on speak up!
O, OK it's that god "money" that has shut your mouth, hasn't it?
OK listen to this: All you Fijian soldiers. You are ALL unprincipled men. Ni yavu ulukau. Tamata macawa. Lamulamu. You are not brave, You are "lamu".Levu ga na vosa.
May I suggest to ALL you soldiers: Tomorrow put on your full official dress, march up to commander's office and tell him that you can no longer support the activities that the Fiji Army is engaging in. Either he has to step down or you are going to resign, but you can no longer support this evil activity. NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL BRAVE.
There comes a time when each of us has to make a decision, Do I continue to live the lie or do I make my way right with the Almighty?

Anonymous said...

The way I heard it, the $10k was offered to stop the beating.

Anonymous said...

kuita Rabuka, finau mara and all the crooks who started the rot in 1987.

Anonymous said...

be very very very careful of ben padarath

Anonymous said...

@Jake 9:49, your lack of insight is unbelievable. You've had a go at Radiolucas but you've completely overlooked the fact that, in this case. the real "judge,jury and executioner" are Bai and his thugs.
Was that intentional or are you having one of your senile moments, again!

Anonymous said...

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?ref=archive&id=55299

Looks like Ben is at it again...complaints are surfacing from various supermarkets, mainly in Lami area, of these dishonored cheques. when asked by the staff at this supermarket, he reassures them, that his wife works for FICAC.
Once a conman always a conman

Radiolucas said...

@ Anon Feb 6, 9:47pm

Thanks for the spirited defence.

Jake's only form of "attack" as it were, is using excessive verbage, i.e. complicated words and superfluous phrases that tend to sound very complex but mean nothing.

Jake's aim is to distort the truth, distract from the issue, and blame everyone else but the prepetrators. Much like the military regime.

For instance, he fails to take into account the time difference between my first and last comments. The first was made when I did not hear of Renee's torture. The last, when it was revealed.

I am in agreement with you and with most of the commentators on this blog that NOONE, especially relatively defenceless women, deserve this treatment at the hands of the military goons. And this is not the first or last time they have done it. I do not condone it at all - even to someone that I have good reason to suspect of wrongdoing in the past.

It is despicable and speaks volumes of the dictatorship we have today.

There is a reason why torture as an instrument of investigation is not used by civilised authorities: it doesn't work. Even the USA in their "extraordinary renditions" learnt this to their cost. The information and confessions they received were worthless.

But then again I wouldn't expect a parrot-brain like Jake to understand any of this. He just enjoys being given an opportunity to bark about nothing and to use his thesaurus.

mark manning said...

Peter Foster's apprentice !

Jake said...

Radio Luka.

“Jake's only form of "attack" as it were, is using excessive verbage, i.e. complicated words and superfluous phrases that tend to sound very complex but mean nothing”

Again you refer to me in the third person tis a sign of impotence have the courtesy to refer to me in the first; back in the forties in Fiji we were taught the rote system of learning so you see the word usage is nether excessive nor superfluous that is if you know anything about the rote system what say otiose.

“Jake's aim is to distort the truth, distract from the issue, and blame everyone else but the prepetrators. Much like the military regime”

How is possible for me to distort the truth when I have no vested interest in the current regime but have interest in the Fijian Nation and if the Fijian Nation is happy with this regime than I will do everything in my power to defend them can’t say much for Radio Luka all he wants to do is tear down the family unit and starve his people.

“For instance, he fails to take into account the time difference between my first and last comments. The first was made when I did not hear of Renee's torture. The last, when it was revealed"

There is no difference my boy in fact there is no point in defending yourself.

“I am in agreement with you and with most of the commentators on this blog that NOONE, especially relatively defenceless women, deserve this treatment at the hands of the military goons. And this is not the first or last time they have done it. I do not condone it at all - even to someone that I have good reason to suspect of wrongdoing in the past”

Again all spurious allegations predicated on lies there isn’t an ounce of fact to back you guys prevarications.

“It is despicable and speaks volumes of the dictatorship we have today”

Up until such time you guys can prove beyond reasonable doubt that this regime is in fact complicit than you all may consider changing your tunes.

“There is a reason why torture as an instrument of investigation is not used by civilised authorities: it doesn't work. Even the USA in their "extraordinary renditions" learnt this to their cost. The information and confessions they received were worthless”

Well the coconut wireless is well and truly alive even Radio Luka has fallen head first into the cesspool of lies can Radio Luka factually say that Renee was tortured?

“But then again I wouldn't expect a parrot-brain like Jake to understand any of this. He just enjoys being given an opportunity to bark about nothing and to use his thesaurus”

Here we go again with the name calling you certainly don’t learn it’s a pity because rote learning would have done you some good.

You need to stiffen your elastic spine because it’s very weak.

Jake

sara'ssista said...

@Croz...i am a bit perplexed as to what one set of circumstances or allegations have to do with the other. Apples and oranges. The point was, you err on the side of 'until the military regime say it is so, then its a rumour'.and need to publish my comment in order to make a very brief condemnation of militray beating which we know, have and may well still happen. It appears you are still very selective on human rights (obviously depends on the victim) and when pushed, make a begrudging criticism. Qarase still innocent until proven guilty is he ?? Kean still guilty then??

Radiolucas said...

@ Jake

Avoiding the issues again "my dear boy" (seriously, give up the condescension, you are not that clever).

You are firstly accusing meof being judge, jury and executioner - then invite me to "find" evidence of the regime's 'complicity'? Which is it? Was she or was she not beaten up by the military?

Who are you kidding?

Do you suppose that there is some 'other' cladestine group in Fiji, running around dressed as soldiers in trucks who summarily arrest and torture Fijian citizens?

"How is possible for me to distort the truth when I have no vested interest in the current regime..."

Right. Pull the other one. I don't pretend to "know" your motives but your single-minded blindness to the disaster that the military regime has wrought on Fiji speaks volumes. I can only assume that you either (a) have no idea at all; or (b) are morally bankrupt because of your own vested interests. Which is it?

Your verbal puffery is just that - all noise and no meaning. If this illogical verbal diaorrhea is the result of your 'rote' learning - which is what I take to be your lack of independant thought or consideration - I am very glad I didn't have your teacher.

Anonymous said...

RATU SAID
WHY THE POLICE IS NOT CHARGING BEN,RENNE AND FREEMAN .
THEY ARE ALL PARTNERS IN CRIME.
WHY FICAC.
POLICE SHOULD INVESTIGATE NOT FICAC.
I CAN SMELL ARAT IN THIS CASE.
WHAT HAPPEN TO OTHER BIG CASES THAT FICAC HAD NOTHING ALL GONE.
TELECOM,FNPF,FSC,SPG/FASANOC.
SELECTIVE PEOPLE ONLY CHARGED.

Jake said...

Radio Luka.

For once in distorted life son believe me when I tell you I have no vested interest whatsoever in the current regime.

Again my boy try and get it into head you and your ilks have no evidence to support your claims its all conjectural.

There's absolutletly nothing wrong with rote learning some of the greatest minds the world over have used this method of learning.

What is it with you keep blaming the military for all ills the nation of fiji have suffered maybe the problems lay with the SVT and the morally bankrupt SDL.

When was the last time you were in Fiji proper?

Was it before you got tossed from government or immediately thereafter?

As I said my boy the hatred within you will eventually be your demise.

Try and find peace within you son and show Bai some love.

Jake

Radiolucas said...

@ Jake

"Fiji proper"? "Conjecture"? What are you? What kind of evidence would you need? Witness statements? There are plenty.

But I am not going waste my time arguing evidence with a man who lives a million miles away from here.

You are not in Fiji - you are too busy with goats and are in love with the "idea" of Frank Bainimarama and his so-called "clean-up campaign".

Like many others (including many now anti-government supporters) you fell for his great lies, his pretty speeches and seem to believe everything the man says. He is WORSE than a politician because we could vote out a politician - with him there is nothing. We are now left with a choice between a hangmans rope or shootout.

What is even more galling Jake, is that if you TRULY believed in the military regime, you would move back here and join them - but then I think your fantasy would be shattered and you would have to eat your words.