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Thursday, June 16, 2011

Samoan PM's latest take on Fiji

The blunt speaking Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi has got people thinking again with his latest comments on Fiji. We've picked the best of them from his Pacific Beat interview with Geraldine Coutts.

COUTTS: Would you welcome Mara in Samoa?
TUILAEPA: I don't see any problem there. I have been talking a lot about the situation in Fiji and I believe and still believe that the Fijians will eventually solve the problem and I think this is one of the processes towards that solution and I sincerely hope that when it comes, that it comes peacefully.

What I hear from Tevita seem to suggest that as it happens in dictatorships, eventually common sense will prevail and people be keen to realise that they have to solve their own problems themselves. It has happened in many, many country. It happened in Vietnam. It happened in Indonesia way back in 1967 with much instability brought up by the Communists in Indonesia. And, of course, Indonesia has solved its own internal political problems and I believe that that will happen also in Fiji. Eventually people will come to realise that the dictatorship was wrong and I do hope that they will solve it peacefully one way or another.

COUTTS: Some are saying, and I wonder what your attitude is, that they feel that Ratu Tevita should go home and face the charges?
TUILAEPA: I think he has already made his decision that he will. One must remember also that when you talk about justice in Fiji, the only kind of justice that can be taken very seriously is justice where the rule of law prevails under democratic system. There is no democracy in Fiji and I cannot believe that justice as we know it can be metered out so when we talk about Tevita going back and face justice that means justice when the proper political system of democracy exists in Fiji. Therefore, I don't think he will get a fair hearing now and I tend to agree that Tevita is proposing to do it at the right time.

It is a situation that is extremely funny, funny in the sense that we have a country that a dictator seized and set aside its Constitution which is the highest law of the land and therefore it is ridiculous for a dictator who does not recognise the need for a Constitution who breaks all the laws of the country should be keen to talk about justice. And therefore if anybody were to talk about bringing Tevita into face justice the Commodore should be the last person to push for that.

COUTTS: Well, what steps do you think should be taken now? Others are calling for Australia and New Zealand to do away with the sanctions that they've got in place at the moment, because they say it's not working, mainly because of the duration, the continuing situation?
TUILAEPA: All those people who called for that, including the academics in Lowy Institute are ignorant of the political reality in the Pacific. They're also ignorant of the social aspects of life in the Pacific. You see that kind of view of looking at the Pacific in those terms is being dominated by the situations in Africa, where you'll find hooligans roaming, killers, murderers, roaming the countryside and killing people who go out. The villagers who try to make a living out of the land. There is no such thing in the Pacific. In the Pacific, we grow our own food. There is no hooliganism and we have plenty of bread fruits, plenty of taro, plenty of food from the sea to eat. So what goes in the government may not be affecting the people in their ordinary lives. They still have plenty to eat, except of course the odd one who gets a job who may be deprived of cash revenue, regular wage to buy such necessities such as bread, an occasional one, but you can of course grow your own food and that is when the ordinary people may take a long time to realise that things are impacting on their lives and to me, the sanctions are not enough to shake the people, to realise that the kind of government that is ruling their lives is not the right one. It is causing havoc, the treasury is empty and the government is extending its illegal activities into the use of national provident fund and that is why the Commodore has been trying to travel overseas to try and see if there are governments that may extend credit to pay for the military. Because so far as he has money to pay for the military, he's OK. But the reality of the situation is dawning on the Commodore that the business of running a country is not as simple as he thought it to be. So to me the sanctions should be increased.

COUTTS: Do you think there should be additional sanctions?
TUILAEPA: There should be additional sanctions. The reason is so that once the people realise that the sanctions are making their lives difficult, then it will motivate them to take the necessary action. We must always remember that in the islands, almost everybody is related to everybody else. There are ordinary people whose sons are serving in the army and those sons are not oblivious to the deprivation that may come and in cases where cash is required. But in as far as food is concerned, there's no problem on that.

There has been much talk about the international organisations to become more and more involved as well as Great Britain. I am thinking of the situation where some kind of international action can be made to give a compulsory holiday to Fijians serving in the United Nations army. So as a kind of hit back to the Commodore that if you do not see your way clear, then there are many, many other different kinds that can be invoked.

Question: Is Tuilaepa the sort of leader we want for Fiji?





56 comments:

  1. Well done Fiji! I hear a nz based insurer in Fiji abt to shut up shop after over 100 years in existence due to uncertainity and needing to free up capital to buy AMI imsurance in NZ itself.

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  2. Is this the same PM of Samoa who recently changed the rules of elections so that he can stand unopposed.

    Politics is a dirty game and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thats why he still hanging on as PM.

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  3. Thanks for the interview transcripts C4.5, so disheartening but true, Do we pressure the Australian Governments through our federal M.P to place more sanctions on Fiji as the Samoan P.M may have suggested?
    We are very tolerable people and it's quite depressing and desperate at the moment speaking to relatives back home that I fear many at home may accept what is happening at home as the best thing as they are being brain washed and propaganda is drummed into their daily lives.
    Why don't we set a date Australia wide where all Fijians living abroad will take to the parks and have a rally of speeches and speakers from "Thumbs Up Fiji" and talk about what we need to do and also present our petition that maybe Australia should put a travel sanction or tourism embargo on Fiji?
    Can we do this? Can I throw this ball into the court for discussion C4.5?
    Thumbs Up Fiji!

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  4. I agree with the Samoan PM.
    The UN should sack all Fijian soldiers and send them home.
    The Democracy Movements should lobby for this.
    As I have mentioned before, that this action will have 2 results:
    1) One, is it will directly put pressure on Bainimarama and that is what needs to happen.
    2) And secondly, it will remind the young soldiers that it's no use conducting a coup because the UN will just turn around and kick you out.

    -Valataka na Dina.

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  5. You rock Samoan PM!! Rock on and thumbs up!!

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  6. Tonga and Samoa you are the two great friends of Fiji, you stick up for the rights and dignity of Fijians, not like the Solomon Is and her PM.....he values Vore's opinion more than what the citizens want.

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  7. Look whose talking! Calling the pot black what about the rules you manourved to suit you own ends so you could stay in power. Fiji is standing on its own two feet,not living off donations from NZ or Australia. But by the sweat of our brows you guys in Samoa survive on the hand outs from NZ or else you would be starving other wise. In Fiji bread fruit is left for the bats & is the last food to be eaten even in the Islands if we run out of Yams, tavioka, dalo. Please keep your wisdom to run your own affairs.Corruption in Samoa is so bad whole families are involved-we are trying to weed that out of Fiji.

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  8. PM Samoa - can you please give a minister post to John Sami,Francis Narayan, Nikhil naidu, Rajesh Singh,Sailen Raju, Sahil shah and Shailesh Mudliar- all self serving wanna bees that needs something more out of this coup.

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  9. Sa dina! tsk..tsk..tsk....

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  10. bainimarama and aiyaaz need to go. whose gonna do it? big rewards....

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  11. @Anonymous 11:24
    Whatever you're doing with your parents, that's your problem.
    You should tell your mother to stop breastfeeding you, now that you've turned 40. It's unhealthy brother.
    No one is judging you but I hear that God has a special place for people like you.
    It starts with "H" but it ain't Heaven.

    -Valataka na Dina.

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  12. This Samoan PM talks real stuff, increase sanctions, UN to terminate all Fijian peacekeeping Contracts and send FB solidiers back home, let us (Fiji) sink right to the bottttooom of the pit until we cannot no more, where it really hurts, if die we die for DEMOCRACY.

    THUMB UP FOR DEMOCRACY!!!

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  13. If Fiji had a PM like Tuilaepa we wouldn't have the problem Fiji is suffering from under the leadership of "no brains" Voreqe!
    @ Anon 10.50pm, get your facts right, stop trying to cast doubt into peoples' mins. The issue here is Fiji NOT Tuilaepa! So instead of being sarcastic towards the Samoan PM, why don't you look at the contents of what he is saying. He is the only leader in the Pacific who is saying it as it is without any agenda. He has nothing to lose or gain from this but what he is saying about Voreqe is true!!! And what he is saying about us Fijians solving our problems is true - we should stop blaming the UN & other contries about our own problems, we should find a peaceful way out of all the mess Kaiyum & Voreqe have created in Fiji - FNPF IS RUNNING DRY BY THE DAY, WHAT ARE WE DOING???

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  14. No thanks! Samoan PM can stay in little Apia. Suva is too big for him. The Samoan PM has changed laws without consultation and my Samoan friends say that he is a dictator within a democratic rule.

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  15. The views of the Samoan PM are painful but very true. Yes, our people in the villages, rural, suburban and peri urban areas are being hoodwinked and slyly satisfied through targeted development projects and practical assistance, those initiatives that previous democratic governments (Ratu Mara, Rabuka, Chaudhary's People's Coalition and Qarase were too callous and ignorant to deliver during their time.

    But what can you do when these are the very people that we trusted and put into power to lead us and in their self righteousness, greed, ignorance, arrogance, snobbishness or whatever, gave birth to an idea that lled to the present Governmentnow ruling over Fiji.

    Maybe it is good for us...we deserve this; this ride of our life to self destruction. You can talk as much as you like till the cows come home but you are not doing anything really to improve the situation but traumatise other people with your foolish comments

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  16. Samoan PM meets with Ratu Tevita

    Created: Thu, 16 Jun 20:28:37 UTC+1000 2011

    Last Updated: 2 hours 34 minutes ago

    The Prime Minister of Samoa has confirmed he met with former Fijian army commander Tevita Mara in the Australian capital Canberra on Thursday morning.

    Colonel Mara fled Fiji after being charged with plotting to overthrow the Fijian military regime.

    He has been in Australia on a tourist visa to canvas support for the Fijian democracy movement.

    Samoa's Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele, who is in Australia on a state visit, says he does not believe his meeting with Colonel Mara will inflame tensions with Fiji.

    "For us, the process of mending differences is a long-term process and part of the Pacific 'way' is to talk and talk and talk," he said.

    "We like talking and we talk our problems over."

    The meeting came a day after Fiji's interim government filed papers with Australia to extradite Ratu Tevita.

    Fijian attorney-general Aiyaz Sayyed Khaiyum has Pacific Beat Suva has assisted Australia with similar requests in the past.

    "We have also of late assisted Australia regarding the Hague conventions, in a way," he said.

    "For example, children have been abducted or taken away by one parent to Fiji and they've sent us their documentation.

    "We've facilitated that and obviously to do with extradition also. So we expect a similar response from the Australians."

    The Australian Government has not commented on the extradition request.

    Solomons rebuff

    On Wednesday, the prime minister of Solomon Islands, Danny Philip, said he would not grant entry to the Ratu Tevita if he attempts to visit.

    Mr Philip told Australia Network he could not afford to damage Solomon Island's relationship with Fiji.

    "We have just made peace with Fiji and the MSG (Melanesian Spearhead Group) group," Mr Philip said.

    "We cannot afford to have anything else put some more cracks into that relationship.

    "I think I'll stick to my policy of embracing Fiji for some time."

    http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au/stories/201106/3245829.htm?desktop

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  17. United Nations slam Frank Bainimarama junta’s human rights record

    15 June 2011

    The following information was released by the United Nations Office at Geneva:

    The Human Rights Council today held an interactive dialogue with the independent, international Commission of Inquiry on Cote d’Ivorie. It also heard the High Commissioner for Human Rights present her report on the situation of human rights in Cote d’Ivoire and her preliminary report on the situation of human rights in Syria. It then held a general debate on human rights situations that require the Council’s attention.

    General Debate on Human Rights Situations that Require the Council’s Attention

    PETER WOOLCOTT (Australia) said that Australia condemned the grave human rights violations and abuses in Syria, including widescale use of violence. Reported torture of children was particularly disturbing and Australia urged the United Nations Security Council to refer the issue to the International Criminal Court. Australia called on Syria to grant access to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights to investigate all alleged violations of international human rights law. In Libya, Australia strongly condemned the use of violence and called on the regime to immediately cease human rights violations and abuses against its people. Australia supported the work of the International Criminal Court in prosecuting those responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Australia remained deeply concerned about the human rights situation in Iran, including the use of the death penalty, the intimidation and arbitrary arrests of human rights defenders and urged Iran to stay all executions, respect human rights of all detainees and ensure trials were conducted fairly. The deteriorating human rights situation in Fiji was of concern, with public emergency regulations, abrogated judiciary and the mismanagement and corruption. Australia called on Fiji to take steps toward free and fair elections that would bring Fiji back into the international community and democracy. Australia urged authorities in Myanmar to make genuine progress towards democracy and called for the immediate release of remaining political prisoners.

    WENDY HINTON (New Zealand) said one of the roles of the Council was to promote and protect the human rights of civilians in conflict. The indiscriminate attacks on civilians in Libya and the brutal repression of peaceful protestors in Syria demonstrated categorically that these regimes had no respect for the human rights of their own people. New Zealand reiterated its strong support for UN Security Council resolution 1973 and called on the Gaddafi regime to cease all hostilities against civilians, ensure full access for humanitarian workers and to protect the rights of journalists. The use of Syrian security forces of brutal force, mass arrest and the discharge of live fire on peaceful protestors was not acceptable. New Zealand called on Syria to allow both the Council’s fact-finding mission and the UN humanitarian mission to assess the situation independently. Recent statements by Lieutenant Colonel Mara, a former member of the current regime in Fiji, highlighted the use of intimidation and beatings of pro-democracy activists in Fiji. This underlined New Zealand’s long-standing concerns about human rights abuses in Fiji which had been raised in this Council. Fiji should take steps to respect and protect the rights of its citizens.

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  18. @solomone radini @matavuvale

    "The only hope of restoring democracy by any means,is lets hope Frank realizes Do away with Kaiyum,Gates,Pryde,Shameem,Aziz and the whole bang lot of Advisers"

    Without Aiarse, Crank is a nobody and vice-verse.

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  19. There are those that are beginning to realize that the end of the game is visually appearing on the Horizon and the lyrics of Frank Sinatra's song "MY WAY"is clearly dawning to haunt the day dreams of AG

    "NOW THE END IS NEAR" The Final curtain is drawing nearer than you guys think...

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  20. @kosakosa @matavuvale "When I read all these comments on events in Fiji and the current situation, I always wonder where was all this indignation, frustration and anger in 1987 & 2000? Those were legally elected governments, illegally overthrown as well."

    A very dumb comment. The difference? Fiji had elections and an elected government almost immediately following all the previous coups. The father of coups, RABUKA, even got elected after the first coup!

    But not so with this anti-indigenous illegal regime.... wonder why?

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  21. samoan pm...you're a fahafifine....n thumbs UP to you.....

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  22. samoan PM, thumbs up...U are an Original Fahafifine.....

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  23. some bloggers are a real disgrace as fijians. u need to stop being the proverbial ostritch with its head in the sand. lets work together to get rid of vb ask and shameem by bullets if necessary. no point talking about change if we cannot be united. and also ignore posts from rfmf n ask n others who asslick the regime @ the expense of reason. time is of the essence.

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  24. fa'afeta'i Samoa!!!

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  25. Go Samoa ....give it to baini...
    must remember 3 parties involve here baini and his wagon ,the Public of Fiji, and the outside parties.
    Please differentiate or isolate the culprits who are taking this beloved country down.

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  26. @7:25 AM. Spot on! The previous coups may have been "anti-Indian" and pro-Fijian, BUT at least Fiji had elections and an elected government almost immediately following them! Within 1-2 years max.

    It's a whole new ball game now; an entirly new dynamic.

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  27. @7:25 AM. Spot on! The previous coups may have been "anti-Indian" and pro-Fijian, BUT at least Fiji had elections and an elected government almost immediately following them! Within 1-2 years max.

    It's a whole new ball game now; an entirely new dynamic.

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  28. don't be supprise in the future when you retire and found out that there's no money for you in FNPF.....

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  29. The ballot is stronger than the bullet.......
    (Abraham Lincoln)

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  30. "Question: Is Tuilaepa the sort of leader we want for Fiji?"

    Fiji is UP FOR GRABS. No Government, No Constitution, No Rule of Law...

    There is a power struggle happening...

    The struggle with Mara is for the soul of the military as well as the control of Fiji.

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  31. To the Samoan PM, thank you for your heartfelt spoken answers to questions pertaining to you about Fiji's democratic solutions' or problems'. But like you said, Let Fiji solve their own problems and you solve your own. As for Australia and New Zealand smart sanctions' I think it is about time you guys relax those sanction since this illegal regime will Not return to democracy until 2014. But mark my words should that be a lie, all those in this regime WILL PAY for deception.

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  32. Isa my beloved Fiji what has become of you, with all that is happening lets pray and hope that good sense will prevail. Talking about law and justice, I wonder what woulld the legal people from Sri Lanka who had left would say .... uumm I wonder. Hope that the FNPF money was not used to silence them.

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  33. @8:48 AM. Amen. And the pen is mightier than the sword! And 'all who did take the sword, by the sword shall perish.' Mat 26:52 http://bible.cc/matthew/26-52.htm

    A general law. The violent usually die violent deaths.

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  34. @ Anon 11:48am......."corruption in Samoa, whole families are involved we are trying to weed that out"
    VB - Illegal PM,Meli Bainimarama (brother) High Commissioner to UK, Keane (tavale) Commander Fiji Navy (even after being conviceted of murder), Litiana Loabuka (daughter)- CEO Fiji Sports Council...

    Pot calling the kettle black.....Stupid arse!!

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  35. @8:58 AM. u still believe in 2014? Even after RUM has confimed that there will be NO elections or a return to democracy under this illegal regime?

    They're smart enough to KNOW that they're absolutely UN-ELECTABLE and that a return to democratic rule will only spell DISASTER for all of them.

    As RUM POINTED OUT, Rabuka was SMART... and did NOT abolish the GCC, which pardoned him for staging the 87 coup. But who will pardon Baini?

    Bananamarama heads a government that has no democratic legitimacy.

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  36. @8:58 AM

    The regime pays lip service to democracy with a vague promise that elections will be held in 2014.

    There is no reason why elections could not be held earlier than 2014, even this year, and I have no faith that the regime intends to deliver on its vague promise.

    Frank Bainimarama heads a government that has no democratic legitimacy.

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  37. we don't have a 'tuilaepa' but we could certainly do with one ... someone who is global in thinking but whose priorities are the pacific region, a senior statesman with a bit of humour and someone with his own beliefs and opinion. vast improvement on fiji's military trained incompetents.

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  38. I was watching the news on the situation in Greece. A protester was interviewed and asked why they were doing what they were doing. He said, "Its not about us anymore, its about our children, we can't see any brighter future."
    What about us Fiji, we'll just stand and watch the future of our children taken from us?

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  39. at least his government is legal.any Pm can says n tries to helped us.with all illegal laws that banana is running n used on us.as far as i concern.all lifes wants to live in a legal country.not slaves.

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  40. Samoa and Tonga are brave dudes,not like some lamu lamu kaivitis in Fiji

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  41. Frank B continues to help the and visit the grass roots of Fiji. So humble for a leader to do so. I don't recall any other political leader in Fiji doing so. I don't think Fiji cares litle much for the commentating of Samoa and Tonga who are supported on a pedestal by NZ. The Alliance of the MSG is of more importance. They also have the abundance of natural resourcse been pursued by many companies. Good Luck Frank for Elections 2014. I don't think there is anyone worth challenging him. we should let the continue to rule Fiji.

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  42. Tuilepa, Qarase are people of the Pacific..Bainimarama..an alien in the Pacific

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  43. Thank you Tuilaepa for you comments. It can be seen from your comments that you really know whats going on in Fiji including the thievery going on at the FNPF which no other Pacific leader has even mentioned! This is what we want from leaders, they make sure they delve into the issues and find out the truth before commenting and making their decisions. This is in stark contrast to the Solomon PM who seems to be in it for what he can get out of it without regard for the welfare of the people of Fiji. The Solomon PM needs to correct his statement and say he is 'embracing Baini and Aiyarse's dictatorship' instead of embracing Fiji. These two idiots do not represent Fiji, they took over and are in place by force. It's times like these that we see our true friends in the Pacific and countries that stick to the moral issues instead of the "what's in it for me" mentality!!

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  44. @Anon June 17 10:51 - obviously you can't recollect as you don't have much brain capacity. Please got to the Fiji Times archives and look through the past 40 years of independence and you'll see lost of past Prime Ministers out with the grassroot people as well. Where do you think all the current roads/waterworks/infrastrucutre cme from??...but please don't let that interfere with your Bainikhaiyum worship session.

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  45. just shut up samoa pm ...we can run our own affairs not like u kissin the auzzies and nz hanhs so they can lent u money

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  46. i say spot on Samoa PM !! we keep hearing this numb skulls guttless so called Fijians who say that all's good in fj !! thats a load of crap realy !!

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  47. I find it very irritating when people keep harping on about retiring without the FNPF. Is this all you guys are capable off, working all your life and then retiring to a measly few dollars a month. Why work all your lives and then retire poor. The problem in Fiji is that everyone takes things for granted. The FNPF is not the only way to insure a cash positive retirement. Get off your butts and get some financial knowledge save and invest your money wisely. The FNPF has been used and abused many times over by all governments so one cannot blame Frank for this alone. To all you Qarase/Rabuka/Chaudhary lovers out their please go do your research. Any person with a bit of financial intelligence knows that the FNPF would have eventually gone broke. The only reason we as a country have survived this long without going broke is because all preceding government have used the FNPF to mask their failures and incompetence at governing. Had we borrowed from offshore we would be gone by now.Voices of reason such as those from the Universities in Fiji have been pushed aside for many years in the name of politics so that the leaders can show you short term fixes to buy you favors come election time. I am asking all of you who read this bloggs to get your selves some financial knowledge and learn how the machinery of government functions. This will help you personally and hopefully help you make better decisions when we finally have elections. Most of the comments i see here is basically hot air and steam without the fire. Fiji’s problems while complicated in one way is relatively simple in another but it needs to be addressed from the root not just from the top.

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  48. Baiyum are enjoying of course the reality that the grassroot is dumped with this (Bai) attitude of do it now! is ashame, what we need to raise is how will we pay all the so-called soft-loan that being pursued from China. Also what is their definition of soft-loan, i mean how soft is soft. I am afraid that it is not too soft that it will melt my good Fiji...My point is Samoa PM is looking at fiji on the best interest of a true leader not dictator.

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  49. Samoa is a very hioerarchical society so her people are used to toing the line but huge difference between this and the military dictatorship we living under. We can learn something from Tui

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  50. So hypocritical when you read the comments in here who are attacking the Samoa PM for the TRUTH that he is saying ... KEEP TALKING SAMOA PM, SPOT ON!!! So what if Samoa surives on aid from Aus & NZ? What is the relevance of this criticism to what the Samoa PM is saying? Is it a secret that most pacific countries survive on aid, Fiji too survives on aid, but now that NZ & Aus have turned their back, WAKE UP FIJI, your grandchildren and great granchildren will have to pay China the loans voreqe is borrowing!!!

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  51. @ 2:55pm Well said. FNFP was well on its way like another failed institution. Fiji Development Bank, National Bank of Fiji. Same cronies behind them. The small business initiatives initiated by the Government of the day empowers the people and ensures they have a source of income and livelihood well into their retirement age. More than that they would get from FNPF payments. This is what we need for Fiji. For people to get off their lazy asses and make things happen instead of waiting for 'mana' to come.
    Samoa stay out of Fiji business you are an insignificant nation to us in terms of trade. You all get free tickets to NZ. So we know who you side with.
    Big THUMBS UP to the current Fiji Governement making a real difference in peoples lives.

    @Anon 11:27am. Yes yes some may have visited the rural people but never came back to do the things they promised. Generations have passed many of them still waiting for things promised.
    Only the military has the power to expose the rot in Fiji and self interests that have stunted and supressed the growth of the people below the poverty line. Like a rotten tooth it needs to be uprooted with a lot of pain and blood. Then we can talk about a new path to democracy. Till then Order needs to be maintained however hard handed it is.

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  52. so its better for samoan pm to shut up mind his own backyard...leave it to the fijians...idont support bai but just mind our small country

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  53. just the china loan ,gett uptodate guy even america has turn to china for loan ...surely not aus or the bloody kiwi .mate...gday

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  54. Samoans don't get a free ticket to New Zealand. They're just like us here in Viti, they have to have a visa and can't overstay. In fact, they've been treated 'badly' some could say by NZ ... taken in as kabourersthen rounded up and sent home as overtayers in bad economic times.

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  55. Can Bainimarama ask for some loan from the Samoan PM's personnel bank account. $100 million missing from the tsunami charity fund as reveal by Cambell Live in NZ TV.

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  56. This is a kind of PM fiji needs!!!

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