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Wednesday, July 6, 2011

The future leaders of Fiji ... who are they?

We asked the question and you gave us your answers. Several names kept popping up, suggesting there's support for them to play some leadership role in either a caretaker government or after the elections. 

Fiji has not been short of political parties but most have been eroded with the coups. Some parties like the SDL and Fiji Labour Party are still on the scene but like many of the politicians who've been suggested for the key roles of president, vice-president and prime minister they're considered 'tainted' and according to some opinion should not be part of any elected or government to take Fiji to elections.

The call for 'fresh blood' was strong and some of the 'fresh' names that came up were: Epironi Tulele, Moala Nata and Pio Bosco Tikoisuva, Raman Veiji and Sireli Bobo and Paula Uluinaceva.


Significantly, there was a push for more women to be included in government. Disappointingly, very few young people were nominated.
Suffice to say, the question of who can lead Fiji is a difficult one and one most of us agree on.  But as we said when posed the question, our aim is to get us all thinking about where to from here. The debate, obviously, continues.

Ratu Jone Madraiwiwi - president
Jai Ram Reddy - vice president
Wadan Narsey - prime minister
Attar Singh - Minister for Labour
Ro Teimumu Kepa - Minister for women affairs
Graham Leung - Attorney General
Epeli Ganilau - Minister for Defence
Poseci Bune - Minister for Indigenous Affairs


Ratu Jone Madraiwiwi - President
Savenaca Narube - Minister of Revenue
Mahendra Chaudhry - Prime Minister and Minister of Finance
Richard Naidu - Minister of Information
Graham Leung - Attorney General

President: Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi
Vice President :   Ratu Jone Baleidrokadroka
Prime Minister  :  Savenaca Narube
Minister for Finance  :  Paula Uluinaceva
Minister for Foreign Affairs : Ratu Isoa Gavidi
Chief Justice: Richard Naidu
Attorney General: Dr Rachael Olutimayin (Former  DPP Officer now based in Vanuatu USP Campus
Solicitor General : Tupou Draunidalo
Minister for Women's and Social Welfare : Dr Atu Embersen Bain
Minister for Commerce and Trade: Dr Yodi Alakijah
Minster for Civil Aviation and other porfolios: Ratu Filipe Tuisawau
Minister for I' taukei : Ratu Peni Volavola of Qeledamu currently completing MBA at USP.
Commander FijI Military : Land Force Commander Colonel Pita Driti. I believe a changed person needs a second chance.


Dr Steven Ratuva- Lecturer- Prime Minister
Michael Dutta- Lawyer.
Ratu Kailova - Ex Foreign Minister Qarase government.
Dr Brij Lal
Dr Tupeni Baba
Ratu Uli Mara- Minister of Defence.
President – Pio Bosco Tikoisuva
VP – Ratu Epeli Nailatikau
PM – SL Rabuka
Finance – Jone Kubuabola
Foreign Affairs – Kaliopate Tavola
Primary Industry (Agriculture, Fisheries & Forest) – Luke Ratuvuki
Lands, Mineral resources – Josefa Dulaki
Provincial Development, DISMEC – Ilaitia Tuisese
AG – Jai Ram Reddy
Education, Youths & Sports – Tupeni Baba
Fijian Affairs & Multi Ethnics – Ratu Naiqama Lalabalavu
Local Government, Housing & Environment – Keni Dakuidreketi
Tourism – Bill Gavoka
Commerce, Public Enterprises, Civil Aviation – Laisenia Qarase
Defence, National Security & Immigration – SL Rabuka
Social Welfare, Women & Culture – Jiko Luveni
Health – Dr Nei Sharma
Works, Public Utilities & Energy – Anasa Vocea


Ratu Jone Madraiwiwi
Tupeni Baba
Imrana Jalal
Ro Temumu Kepa
Laisenia Qarase
Navin Maharaj
Mick Beddoes


Epironi Tulele
Roko Seru
Ratu Joni
Former Reserve Bank Governor
Moala Nata
Lepani Bevu
Joape Kunikoro

Women leaders who must somehow be included:
1) Temumu Kepa
2) Imrana Jalal
3) Atu Emberson Bain
4) Priscilla Singh

More Feedback:
 
Only one person is capable & acceptable - Solomon exile Roko Tui Bau - Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi. Whether he'd accept given what he's gone & going thru (wife has serious health issues) is another matter? Other than that - can't see any other suitable candidates? All hypothetical anyway - Vore & Nailatikau will never voluntarily surrender power - repercussions too severe - personal opinion is only way change will occur is thru RFMF via internal putsch. 


As a Kiwi who has worked in Fiji and loves the country greatly, I follow the various developments with interest and a great deal of sadness. It is vital that Fiji gets this right. The four coups have, as you know, represented elements of the various factions that wish to govern the nation. I think that a political 'circuit breaker' is needed to avoid lurching from one destabilising event to another. The model that has been applied by the United Nations in places like East Timor perhaps offers potential for Fiji in that the military government doesn't run elections, they hand over to the UN in the interim. This could see a Special Representative of the Secretary-General leading a Transitional Authority supported by Fijians, international experts and perhaps UN civilian Police. This would provide the time for a constitution to be developed and elections held (under UN supervision). 


The inherent stability would see trade, aid, investment and tourism recover in the meantime.
 

As to who that person (the SRSG) might be - my only suggestion is that they would come from beyond this region and not from a country that had traditional colonial or similar interests in the area. In the case of East Timor, it was the UN's Brazilian rising star Sergio Vierra de Mello (who was tragically killed in Baghdad years later). Here's a link to the UN's current list of mission heads around the world http://www.un.org/News/ossg/srsg/table.htm

I think the question should be WHO WOULD YOU NOT LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEW GOVERNMENT? Right now we are seeing the same old familiar faces start to crawl out of the woodwork - the Kaitanis, the Rajesh Singhs, and Shiu Rajs, the Shailendra Rajus, the Sam Speights, etc. Fiji deserves better.

We would all like to see our country re-start its journey towards joining the rest of the world in the 21st century.  We would like to see people in government who have the community's well-being at heart and work towards making a difference. We want to see changes that benefit everyone.
 

There are many capable people in Fiji like Kennneth Zinck.  He has experience being in government as well as being in the public eye. He also has the interest of the community at heart and has great rapport with his constituency.

We do not need any caretaker government. We like the Bainimarama government. I already told my 2 namesake to 4get about what they want, because the people in Fiji are not blind. Whether good or bad this government, we still like it because it fulfill all our needs compared to past government. And we believe that the 2 gentlemen are following the steps of past politicians.
 
Bainmarama as PM
Any others but not from any one associated with SDL, Labour
Ului Mara as minister of home affairs-Lau

Qarase for PM. Let him pick his team. It's only the right thing to do that the elected PM be the Caretaker PM.

More women! Caretaker government AND the new government (2014). It's important that women begin to put themselves forward for elections.

1. Have a RAMSI Type of operation man by UN or neutral force to monitor Truth and Reconciliation Commission for two year before election end of 2013 to take us forward in 2014; The Head of the RAMSI operation is to nominated by the UN;
2.    The consultation needs to include former PM Qarase and former Opposition Leader to nominate 5 members each and 5 military Council nominees and 5 Fiji Council Of Churches Nominees, therefore total of  20 people altogether to advice and guide governance for the remaining period leading to election in 2014.

This is a semi-loaded question.For the past four and especially the past two,there has been no debate on credentials of new politicans-it is all a guessing game at this stage.With the current system and the history,Fiji would be hard pressed to woo credible candidates for a caretaker govt and eventually an elected govt.The old power hungry ghosts of SDL and Labour would be at play until dead and buried-they know the taste of power.

Paula Uluinaceva, Warden Narsey, Kenneth Zinck, Vitinia Lesuma Chung, Luse Kinivuwai, Jacque Koroi, Peter Waqavonovono, just to name a few. I hope the people who's names I've mentioned don't mind, but I re­­­­­­ckon, they will do a superb job.

I think you'll need to get people of standing - chiefs, academics, businesspeople, etc. They should have a proven track record of integrity. To gain international support, they should be persons who opposed BOTH the 2000 and 2006 coups. Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi is one name that comes to mind. Lawyers like Tupou Draunidalo and Devanish Sharma would also be good picks IMO.


Someone that knows power and money corrupts even the well intentioned and therefor is prepared to implement laws that will keep himself/herself HONEST AND TRANSPARENT FROM DAY 1.


Whoever it is just needs to tread carefully knowing fully well that Fiji has Indigenous Fijians & others meaning it is a multi-racial nation. Try stepping out of line in terms of Indigenous Fijian issues or Human Rights for that matter, he will be taken to account for his follies! People are now better informed & know which way to move to obtain relevant authentic advs and take actions. Fear must not be created as the current case seems to be.

93 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank You very much for suggesting names 'capable' of leading Fiji and are would-be called 'fresh blood' of Fiji Politics.

However, why on earth you keeping bringing up old war horses such as:

1. Mrs. T Kepa
2. Imrana
3.SRabuka
4.LQarase
5.Peni Volavola
etc,etc,etc

How much do you know of certain individuals whose name are mentioned? That is in terms of level of intergrity and such.

A Free and Fair Election is what we wanted for 2014 Election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Open the playing field and let the 'fresh blood' in!

Wilson Tamanikaira said...

Its wonderful second guessing who should and should not be in parliament. This defeats the purpose of a true democracy and is playing into the hands of the current coupist, Banimarama and his so called "anti corruption campaign".Let the people decide whom they want to represent them.

The problem in Fiji has nothing to do with our multicultural society but about inept military leaders who are easily swayed by corrupt external political forces.All the coups in Fiji has been the result of ill disciplined military persons stepping outside the boundaries of their constitutional duties to the people.This coup is no different.

There will always be a plethora of extreme political views in any society and even those must be respected through our democractic principles no matter how contentious.Fix up the problems in the military and we will have a stable and vibrant democracy.

Anonymous said...

Interesting!

A correction on Rt Jone Mardraiwiwi.... he is NOT in exile in the Solomons. He is apparently on assignment with the Truth Commission for the Sol Is mandated by the United Nations. He travels in and out of Fiji quite freely when work allows.

AND that is news that his wife has serious health issues!! Bullcrap!

Banaras said...

List comprises many names that would ruin Fiji. Some recent ex-Ministry-CEOs are incompetent and would ruin Fiji. Sensitive ministries such Agr/Fisheries need capable people and there are many.

Anonymous said...

elections must be fair and transparent.
the will of the majority needs to be respected.

no military personnel nor coup supporter must escape punishment for their part in this mess. we shall hunt them down one by one.

Anonymous said...

We need more Woman and younger people that can lead the fiji of today.
We dont need the types of Rajesh Singh,George Shiu Raj,Shalen Raju,Ratu Mara.
Fiji desrves a fresh start away from this coup culture.
Make Bani President and hold fresh elections now under NZ and Aust supervision.

Anonymous said...

I am pleading all the big mouth chiefs to pull your sulu and act now against aiyas[sliced].if you miss this chance then keep on talking around yaqona tanoa and dream you lamulamu sona levu's.tucake and toso u vutu sona's.its time for action.i only wish if qaranivalu was out.

Anonymous said...

you forgot shamima ali....bichari

Anonymous said...

It has now been revealed that 4 Sri Lankan Prosecutors with FICAC have been sacked this week and were given 24 hrs to leave. Reason - not towing the line

Anonymous said...

Heres a Name who has proven himself in every endeavour he has undertaken, well known by members of the various Communitys in Fiji & has a proven track record: Sitiveni Yaqona.

Anonymous said...

Sorry!!! Same DOGS same Shit. Totally people who have never run a government but very well educated and well establish. As far as their family is concerned, just one kicthen, high moral values, live on principles, they dont need money because they have it and what not. You will be surprise to find many out there but convincing them would be tough.

convolutedexperiment said...

I believe personally that any attempts which are made to resolve Fiji's current problem, must be done in accordance with the 1997 Constitution and the Court of Appeal Ruling of April the 5th. 2009.

I don't believe that Fijians will learn from the mistakes of the past, if they keep modifying an already workable and proven Constitution.

Now there is an opportunity to prove that the Constitution works.
The need and the " will " to enforce the Rule of Law under the Constitution, is what is lacking in Fiji, but to avoid the mistakes of the past, the Rule of Law is the very thing, which must be upheld.

Nothing short of arrest of the coup perpetrators and their incarceration, where found guilty by a Court of Law, will suffice.

One should ask, what signal is being sent to the next would be dictator, those currently in the Regime and to the families of the Victims of this and past coups, if we now simply " acquiesce " and dispense with the Constitution or to try and tweak with it before a workable Government is returned ?

The correct, Legal and only way to address Constitutional change, is through a " Referendum " , put forward by a Legally Appointed, workable Government and Parliament .

The People of Fiji and the families of victims of this coup, deserve to have their Constitution returned, the coup perpetrators arrested, tried before the Courts and punished according to the Law.

Take what has worked well, take the advise already given under the Rule of Law and allow " Fijians " to resolve from within Fiji.

Assistance can be sought from outside of Fiji where required, if only for a specified time.

Circumventing the Constitution by setting up a Government before an election, is a recipe for disaster and coup within a coup.

You can't overthrow a Government, Abrogate the Constitution, set up a new Government and then introduce a new Constitution !
Well that's not entirely accurate, because you can in fact, but it sets itself up for another coup if some within the community decide they don't like the " new Constitution "

Anonymous said...

this is regardless what any tom dick and harry say

the corrupt bainimarama and aiyaz took our govt by force, and he simply has to return the govt to us...

it is the peoples call..

Anonymous said...

No, most of these people lack vision. They sound good on paper, but lacks the practicability. Let us have practical home grown solutions!! Enough, of the well spoken and well written speeches leaders.Leaders should not necessarily be laced with titles like traditional titles, academic qualifications etc, "Mr Know It All " attitude. We want a new Fiji with leaders who have a Sustainable Vision for all and who can listen as well. Majority of these names have had their chances. We want leaders who speak less and act more. No more BS long speeches about the Economy and the BS statistics which have been a LIE like the Tourism one to justify the Land Grab and wrong Fiscal Policies.No more politiking please.Action speaks louder than words. Justice first. Return the Proprietorship Rights regarding the Qoliqoli etc to the righful owners and the Economy will automatically thrive.
Remember, "Think Globally, Act Locally". You cannnot take away the Vanua foundation and expect the Economy to thrive. You will end up in Bankruptcy just as we are experiencing.

We need strong, new,
pracical,sensible, united and non racist leaders.

Anonymous said...

god bless fiji.thumbs up democracy.

Anonymous said...

Thanks i dont need any post .
Like i said .we wait for election and voters mandate is vital.
rajesh

Anonymous said...

WE DONT NEED NFP CHOR/OTHERS .
VOTERS PICKED 2 PARTIES SDL/FLP.
THATS VOTERS MANDATE.
SO RESPECT IT OR DIE WITH IT.
LQ/MPC ARE CHOSEN LEADERS.
NOT JAI RAM REDDY,ATTAR,OTHERS.
THIS BLOG SEEMS TO PROMOTE NFP AGENDA.
KAI SUVA.

Anonymous said...

Whoever puts an end to Bainimarama should be president! Let them earn it this time.

And please only the real chiefs this time.....Ro Teimumu and Qaranivalu...over fake....no thanks!

Anonymous said...

this should be challenging!!

Anonymous said...

Those who served in government, either on fulltime, part time etc before should not be considered including Rt Joni Madraiwiwi. When they were there, they did not do anything constructive for the state; and it can also be assumed that their contributions from those designations led Fiji to what it is today.

I have also seen names like some of those NGO activists..PLEASE NO!!

Activists should continue their role as activists to shake any governmnent that comes along. A change in role and perceptions will be disastrous for the nation.

We have already seen an example in Chaudary the unionist becoming Chaudary the PM and his croonies.

Get fresh blood - graduates in their respective area of specialization, who are guided by rationale ideologies and well grounded theories.

No more those "who tow the line"

God Bless Fiji

Kaiviti

Anonymous said...

2006 mp should be back . in the future.
this will teach fiji coup leader not to do any more coup.
we had 3 coup and elected mp were out.
where is justice.fiji have new constitution after every coup.
its a joke.
we say no more to coup.
riaz.

Fiji Son said...

Coupfourpointfive you would be better to take this discussion to Facebook where people are more responsible and don't hide behind 'Anonymous'. People here are haters and wreckers and a more interested in pulling you down than getting into a debate that can help Fiji. On FB most people have open identity and open minds.

Anonymous said...

The junta has completed a new constitution and will go through a farce consultation process to rubber stamp it and then shove it on the people of fiji to live with it, a political party has been formed and in fact the dictator is on an election campiagn and will do sudden elections and with PER preventing other parties to campiagn now, not forgetting the secret plot for election scam for junta to win so called democratic elections whilst the opposition is criminalised by trumped up charges so disqualifed from contesting the elections.

Campaign by SDL and Labor must begin now at grass root level now.

Anonymous said...

Fiji will only be stable when we have the following set up:
President - kaiviti
PM - kai india
cabinet - 48/48% 4% kawaca's
military - 50/50[must]
police - current ok,they are
useless anyway.
civil service- merit based
just try this one and the coup culture will have natural death.

Anonymous said...

Please no more Chodory!

Anonymous said...

The six "Fresh Blood" mentioned----

Epironi Tulele, Moala Nata and Pio Bosco Tikoisuva, Rama Veiji and Sireli Bobo and Paula Uluinaceva. Should be interviewed by Coup four point five. This will shed some light on their platform. Also I think that it would be a good idea to promote them via this site. We sure don't need the old horses. Let have a "New Beginning".

God Bless Fiji

Kinoya Kid said...

Me kakua tale ni dua na past politicians me on tale mai....they are jest their for their own pockets and they've got no qualification to be their...most of them are jest their for the tick.....

Anonymous said...

Oh paleez people, whoever gave you the judge and jury role to pontificate who should and should not be on the roll of leadership in years to come, and based on unsubstantiated biases rather than on careful analysis??? Rather than giving names, we should be raising the bar on the selection criteria for people who should hold public office. From the good book : God-fearing, can be trusted and can not be bribed: high moral values- family oriented, faithful to wife/husband (no LT please).
2)Education- highly educated with a degree to understand the bills that are being debated. Legal background helps so is professional career in any of the social, economic sectors. Language- must be able to speak,write and understand English, and understand simple Fijian and Hindi.Other languages welcome. Must have made a proven contribution to society in any field- law, education, sports,music, arts/culture, medicine, civil service, diplomatic,CSO/youth/women, volunteerism, etc. This list is not exhaustive but we need to improve on the selection criteria. Furthermore, please do not be like the Americans who are influenced by the media - research the background of those you think deserve your vote come election time- whenever that will be!

Democracy now said...

Fiji is not without capable people but they have to be found, groomed and prepared. What are SDL, FLP and even the NFP doing to prepare for elections even if it's 2014 or next year?

Anonymous said...

Let us choose men who fear God to lead us and let God be the one to guide them in all that they do for us. God will choose who is to be the leader. Learn from Israel's examples.

VereBau. said...

Anon 2:13 PM (bullcrap).

Let me clarify something - Roko Tui Bau is in exile in the Solomons because of his refusal to sign the regimes legal practitioners decree - remember that? Bainimarama in cohoots with Khaiyum denied him and others the right to practice their profession - in other words earn a living. Called a decision of conscience.

Really don't know why I'm writing this to someone such as yourself?
You read like a vulgar uninformed individual who can't even correctly spell the name of the subject under discussion?

Its JONI idiot.

Anonymous said...

Singapore pays their MPs more than US. Why? So that they get the best people otherwise they will be in the private sector. Also if u pay well, there is less corruption.

But we must reduce the no of MPs. 71 is too much for fiji. 35 is more like it.

Also ministers can be technocrats like US. Not elected. MPs debate and pass new bills.

Food for thought.

And people need to choose their MPs well.

Anonymous said...

Some comments are so bad that we may as well make Vinod Patel PM , Hari Punja Deputy,Rups the president, tapposs as Minister for Customs Himmat Lodhia as Finance Minister - in that way, the funders of all the coups are in power so no more coups - we need to do a true clean up before any such debate including the current lot.
Fiji needs a new begining.

Anonymous said...

Same old crap different smell. We need to get out of this "photo in the papers so suitable for leadership" syndrome. As much as i respect and love Madraiwiwi i think no chief should be involved in politics at all. The common man makes up 99.999% of the populace and they should rule themselves. I think parliament should choose the President and it should be the prerogative of all elected members to vote the next president in. The rest of the members should be good hard working successful preferably members of society who have never been involved in politics before. Fiji needs a new start. ANON 8.45 i like your suggestions however i disagree with being highly educated. While a sound education is good having a number of abbreviations besides ones name does not guarantee intelligence nor moral values case in point is Aiyaz. Look at Brazil today and what it was about 10 years ago. Brazil's new future was shaped by an uneducated Orange seller named Lula. Intelligence, leadership skills and moral values are not earned in classrooms, you either have it or you don't. In fact classrooms factor in a very narrow vision of things and that is usually the version of the writer of the various texts we use to study. Abraham Lincoln was uneducated and he taught himself to read and write with charcoal after working all day. What Fiji needs is a patriot who is successful in his own right self made with overall general intelligence, married loving husband or wife, been through the grind and knows the challenges of living in Fiji. The person must be practical honest to the T speaks all 3 major languages fluently and understands the complexity of all the cultures in Fiji in particular the i-taukei ones. He or she must also be well traveled and understand where Fiji needs to go to balance the aspirations if the modern Fijian and what remains of our cultural identity. Unfortunately I can think of only one person like this and that is me.

Good night all.

Anonymous said...

Moala Nata doesn't understand simple English.

Anonymous said...

@ananymous 3.03pm please do not swear to the chiefs of Fiji. perhaps you could read some scriptures to cool you down. your words may haunt you and when you touch that keyboard again, think wisely.
qarauna boy de sauti iko tale na sui ni kemu.
ke ko qai via vosa tale mai, ia sa ca tiko na ulumu.

Anonymous said...

SLRabuka and RtEpeli Ganilau should never, never be brought in. Delete their names from whatever list you are putting together.

Reason Being - Long story cut short, THESE ARE THE 2 THAT BROUGHT IN FRANK BAINIMARAMA AS COMMANDER OF FMF REPLACING RTEGANILAU, BYPASSING ALOT OF THOSE WITH HIGHER QUALIFICATIONS THAN HIM EVEN THOSE OF MORE CHIEFLY STATUS THAN HIM, IF HIS ratu-(very small one) from kiuva becomes an element of debate. It is a case of nominating someone to cover you when you are out of the army and be manipulated easily whenever the need arises.

I am a civilian not military person but I know this bit for a fact.

Anonymous said...

SLRabuka and RtEpeli Ganilau should never, never be brought in. Delete their names from whatever list you are putting together.

Reason Being - Long story cut short, THESE ARE THE 2 THAT BROUGHT IN FRANK BAINIMARAMA AS COMMANDER OF FMF REPLACING RTEGANILAU, BYPASSING ALOT OF THOSE WITH HIGHER QUALIFICATIONS THAN HIM EVEN THOSE OF MORE CHIEFLY STATUS THAN HIM, IF HIS ratu-(very small one) from kiuva becomes an element of debate. It is a case of nominating someone to cover you when you are out of the army and be manipulated easily whenever the need arises.

I am a civilian not military person but I know this bit for a fact.

Anonymous said...

Oh purleeese...

Pio Bosco Tikoisuva and Sitiveni Yaqona? Boy, these are has-beens. Give them space at the national archives!!! Sa kua.

Toso Viti!

Anonymous said...

I suggest that all Christian Pastors fast and pray for our leaders of tomorrow because GOD only knows what happens tomorrow.
Man see the physical appearance while GOD see the heart of a man.
THumbs up for democracy!!!!
God Bless FIJI.

Observer said...

It is so disappointing reading the list of names that have been put forward.

There are so many people out there who are honest, hard working, sincere are are prepared to sacrifice for the people and nation.

Please stop bringing up names of individuals who are clearly, closely connected to previous governments and have benefited from them along the way.

Do not bring up names of chiefs as Ro Teimumu Kepa, Ratu Joni, Tui Cakau, etc who have enjoyed their time in previous governments

We do not need people who have served in previous governments like Poseci Bune.

Do not bring in name4s of people who have served in the Military like Jone Baledrokadroka and Roko Ului Mara.

The new Fiji needs sincere people.

OBSERVER said...

I HOPE THAT THE NATION IS AWARE THAT MOST NAMES BEING TOUTED HERE TO LEAD US AFTER BAINIMARAMA'S GOVERNMENT ARE NO BETTER THAN BAINIMARAMA AND AIYAZ SAYED KHAIYUM IN INTEGRITY, HONESTY, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY.

MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WERE DOING THE SAME DURING THEIR TIME IN PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS, WHILE HOLDING HIGHER POSITIONS IN GOVERNMENT INCLUDING THE UNPRODUCTIVE CEOS OF GOVERNMENT BETWEEN 2004 - 2006 LIKE LUKE RATUVUKI, ANARE JALE AND COMPANY.

THEY WERE ABUSING THEIR POSITIONS WHILE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY.

IF WE KEEP COMING UP WITH NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO HAD SERVED IN PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS OR WERE CONNECTED TO PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS, THEN IT IS BETTER TO STICK WITH BAINIMARAMA.

IT IS SO DISAPPOINTING.............

Anonymous said...

Fiji a republic
Not a democracy
A democracy means majority wins. THE MAJORITY IS ALWAYS WRONG.

Anonymous said...

Mrs Kepa?
nah. . .
only good for her vanua;
cosmetic politian,
and neither is she a people-person.
Too much of a lah-dee-duh!

Where is GRAHAM LEUNG?
That's the one for PM!!!

Madraiwiwi ~~a softie~~ placed importance on Iloilo and Voreqe's father-son relations only to back-fire on him. Lacked foresight. He ushered the country into Voreqe's hands... dou qai via kauti koya tale tiko mai?

Bring in Graham Leung!!!
He will get us out of the doldrums.

God Bless Fiji!

Anonymous said...

The dream-team or nightmare?

1) President - Rt Inoke Tagiveikata
2) VP - Rt Naigama Lalabalavu
3) PM - Frank Bainimarama
Ministers:
4) Finance - Mahendra Patel
5) Tourism & CAAF - Dixon Seeto
6) Commerce - Chandu Umaria
7) Women - Lavenia Padarath
8) Youth - Ben Padarath
9) Labour - Kenneth Zinck
10)Public Utilities - Wilisoni
11)Transport - Dewan Chand
12)Sports - Mary Bainimarama
13)Fijian Affairs - Rajend Chaudhry
14)Lands - Mahendra Pal Chaudhry
15)Defense - Vidhya Lakhan
16)Justice/AG - Shaista Shameem
17)Information - George Rubine
18)Governor Reserve Bank - Anthony Stevens
19)Employment -Jucy Lucy & Joe Blow

Well, they couldn't do any worse than the current mob!!

Ratu Borogaga said...

There's alot of kaiviti's around the world and in Fiji who are capable of leading our beloved Fiji out of these disaster that Bai and Kaiyum has created. And PLEASE bring in a foreigner to lead our military and to point them in the right direction, also to draw up a plan to downsize the military to econimical proprotion.
They're receiving huge chunk of the national budget for nothing, even bigger than education and health.

Anonymous said...

All those who want to contest for the election must got over $10,000 hard-earned cash(no borrowing) in their bank account, no credits under their name, got properties such as a house or land, non-womaniser or woman with no de-facto relationship, a sober person & not alcoholic, physically fit healthy & intelligent, religious personality and lastly to serve others and not to be served..with this kind of personality I reckon the wanna-be politician will serve properly and not looking for what to fill his pockets...good job!

Anonymous said...

Future leaders of this nation should come from a least of members that the UN has organises. A Group called CPAD - A Joint group of Fiji Professionals [ Civil Servants, CSOs & NGOs]who have been in dialogue for somtime now. This men and women are profesionlas and committed to building Peace in Fiji. Their names are with the UN who had facilitated a number of meetings and dialogue process to map out the way forward for Fiji.

These professionals are people who know the mechanics and the need at this vital time in Fiji. They have committed themselves burning that peaceful candle in our darkest hour. Check their names out with UNDP.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 2.13pm 6/7/2011


Dont be so insensitive towards a family man dealing with health issues with regards to a loved one such as his wife.

You wouldnt wish it upon anyone.



Yourself included.

Fiji Regret said...

Fearless C4.5 you have chosen a difficult one here but thumbs up for trying. As I have said before Fiji has the government it deserves.

Matanitu said...

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT TEN CREDIBLE, EDUCATED AND HONEST INDIVIDUAL BE CHOSEN TO LEAD THE COUNTRY FOR TWO YEARS AS INTERIM CARETAKER GOVERNMENT.
THEIR ROLE IS TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUION AND CALL FOR ELECTION. THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD WHEREBY TO ALLOW INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND FIJI AT LARGE TO PREPARE FOR ELECTION AND MORE IMPORTANTLY A NEW LOOK HORISON FOR FIJI.
FIJI IS NOT READY TO GO TO ELECTION RIGHT AWAY, OTHERWISE COUP CULTURE WILL CONTINUE.

IF MY SIMPLE AND HUMBLE OPINION IS ACCEPTED BY WHOEVER STOPS THE CURRENT REGIME, THEN I AM PREPARED TO NOMINATE AND APPROACH THE 10 AFOREMENTIONED ELITES.
GOOD LUCK FIJI.

Anonymous said...

@Anon. 9:48 am. We are to show them no mercy. Deut 7:2. Bainimarama should be slain, and go down to the grave; this is the common fate of tyrants. Is 14:15.

Anonymous said...

C4.5 Thank you for this topic. I see that the Debate is a bit "all over the shop" (that's Australian for - disorganised, confusing and frustrating).
Anyway, I'm suggesting a way of fine-tuning it, is that you guys make a list of all the names that have been suggested and then people can write in with their reason why that person should not be on the list.
And we remove those names from the List
And every few days the list is updated until we get to the last 10 standing.
Otherwise we'll be debating till Christmas.

I guess that is why we have Elections - so that the debates can stop.

Anyway as a side issue:
Some people have said that chiefs should not be considered. I think they should be treated equally like everyone else and shoiuld be considered too.
We have had some good leading chiefs in the past and we have benefited from their vision and their hardwork eg Ratu Sukuna and Ratu Mara.


-Valataka na Dina.

Anonymous said...

Only Mahendra Chaudhry can take Fiji out of the woods. Let him lead.

Anonymous said...

$10million dollar vehicle leasing scam has been done by the puppet master-no tender called for vehilce/funding-massive cost when duty free import could have been done.

What is the total cost?

What is the interest rate and other cost?

Why no tender called?

How much kickbacks paid and to who?

Anonymous said...

i fully support this comment

"Only Mahendra Chaudhry can take Fiji out of the woods. Let him lead"

MAO said...

A very learned gentleman I was very privileged to have made the acquaintance of had a very interesting (and logical)theory about governments elected into power.

He termed them as the 'Second Fifteen' (in obvious reference to a second string rugby team) who were running the country. According to him, the 'First Fifteen' (the best available players)were most often, to be found in the Private Sector, in Business or engaged in places of Higher Learning. According to him, their intellect was challenged more where they were as opposed to running a country. Of course, the higher salary they were getting on the outside was also a contributing factor as to why they were on the 'outside'.

The gentleman never ceased to amaze me with his wisdom and logical approach to problems. If only he were a citizen of Fiji, and, only if he were still with us.

My contribution to the ongoing debate - I hope it helps in some little way.

SEMI MEO said...

Are we trying to form a corporative shop committee or what??..seems all grog gang and pub regular have an opinion of you they grave to take over from the Co Prime Ministers and their gang.
Let the majority of the populace decide, please, not faceless and nameless bloggers.

Let’s have an election and let NO ONE...NOT ONE SINGLE HAS BEEN ONE from any previous Governments have a sticky peak in any level...let them retire peaceful, while we get all these young energetic new blood take over...but, though an ELECTION!!!

Anonymous said...

Junta could exempt import duty on the vehicles and import to Fiji at one third the price. No interest and finance costs would need paying. Under lease the 10 million scam vehicles go back to ASCO after 3 years who sell for half the price. If junta buys duty free then junta keeps it for life.

The poor taxpayers have been taken for a ride by a gang of thugs.

Anonymous said...

ASCO media release is the interest rate cant be disclosed as this is confidential. The 10 million dollar vehicle scam is public money and public demands transparency and accountablity and disclosure of the corrupt deal. What is interest rate and total finance cost?

The fact is total payments by junta over 4 years will be more than 20 million cos the repair will be paid and excess of 25 cents per km for all km over 20,000 km.

This is a scam for vehciles to use for elections by junta party-must be investigated now.

convolutedexperiment said...

Anyone who has been associated with any coup, should never be considered again.
The effect of such an approach would be that people would consider the consequences and repercussions if they were to affiliate themselves with the next coup, otherwise it just goes on and on !
A chiefly title means didley squat in Politics anyway.

Anonymous said...

people have to fight the battle now.
why cant, we stand up for democracy and fight.
scared or lamu.
come on gcc/church/fiji people wake up.
time to say -we are ready to fight the regime.
strike /write to president to sack frank govt.
see what happens.
time for action.
gcc/church always marched against the 1987/2000 govt.
why cant they stand up and march now to support sdl/flp govt of 2006.
people looking up at the chiefs/church/vanua to lead.
real chiefs fight for its people/freedom.
kai ra.

Anonymous said...

25% interest rate paid to ASCO by junta for 10 million dollar car lease scam, in 4 years they will be paying the cost of the car in interest dont forget the finance cost and lease cost so 300% payment done then vehciles go back to ASCO and sold by them and monies kept by them- what a massive scam?

Why no upfront purchase done, why no finance lease but a ripp off operating lease a scam on people of Fiji??"

Where is FICAKE, where is OAG, where is Transparency International and where is the Police- all responsible must stand trial.

Anonymous said...

clear sign government buying provincial support with money..

http://www.fijivillage.com/?mod=story&id=0707117c7869ed65189c499b9bc2af

“Do not only accept development assistance given by the Government, you will also have to accept the reforms as well”.

This was highlighted by the senior official at the Prime Minister’s office Kisoko Cagituevei to those provincial councils who are double minded whether to accept the People’s Charter for Change and Progress or not.

Cagituevei said it is not fair to accept the development projects in the provinces such as road upgrading, footpaths, water and sanitation assistance and not support the Government in moving the country forward.

However he hopes the 14 provinces will all have the same mindset before elections in 2014.

Anonymous said...

exactly, where is the commoner in fiji..

this only shows the lack of leadership.

if every leader takes charge, we can get rid of this regime in a flick..

qarase/kepa/chaudhry/felix/attar?

Anonymous said...

ANON@11.45....SORRY THE FIJIANS WILL NEVER ALLOW AN INDIAN TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY AGAIN....MUST BE DREAMING....

Anonymous said...

@1:44 PM."HE FIJIANS WILL NEVER ALLOW AN INDIAN TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY AGAIN"

I SECOND THAT EMOTION.

Anonymous said...

and I thought everyone was a Fijian !!

Thats why the vast majority in Fiji support FB, given the utterances of some racist thugs !!

Anonymous said...

Dreams are cheap
So is talk
But that is OK if it works for you
Meanwhile, there is much to do

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

Vinaka Coup 4.5 for your infectious enthusiasm in returning Fiji to democracy. Unfortunately your list is not only biased, but also flies against the criteria of good governance. I say this for the following reasons:
1. There is no transparency and accountability for your recommended list. In fact, the list preempts the democratic process of selection, voting and inclusiveness, which is what free and fair elections are all about. In relation to the general population distribution for ethnicity we have 58% Fijians, 37% Indians and 5% Others. There is a link here, which cannot be disconnected. Non-inclusiveness of ethnicity in a list of candidates is dangerous. Your final and important point is that Fiji is a multiracial country. Anonymous comments on NFP 6/7, 5:33pm; NGO activist role 6/7, 6:07pm activist’s role; and UN culture (God forbid per diems!) 6/7, 7:41 am, are valid for accountability. I hope that your enthusiasm sparks debate among our good people of who they would like to vote for, but please! Do not encourage circumventing a fair and transparent system because, frankly, that’s what got us here in the first place.
2. To add to the above, only 3 of the comments (Wilson Tamanikaira, Rajesh and I think Joni or Verebau) or 4% could be identified for their interest. And it could be argued that these interests do not necessarily meet the criteria for good governance.
3. Most Fijians do not have access to ICT and would not be participating in the short listing of your selections here. Does this inherent bias encourage inclusive representation?
4. Fiji Son 6/7/11, 7:22pm sums up the danger of basing such lists on the biased sample population. This would not pass muster in a statistical analysis. “ Fiji Son said...
Coupfourpointfive you would be better to take this discussion to Facebook where people are more responsible and don't hide behind 'Anonymous'. People here are haters and wreckers and a more interested in pulling you down than getting into a debate that can help Fiji. On FB most people have open identity and open minds, July 6, 2011 7:22 PM”
5. The aim for this whole exercise is constitutional democracy for general population’s choice. It’s about transparency. But the core culture of aliases blogging is anything but. Thanks to PER, good citizens supporting the return to democracy are forced to blog anonymously. And foot soldiers of the illegal regime keep up a constant barrage of tactics to sabotage intelligent online debate. Thankfully they cannot dull C 4.5’s enthusiasm.
6. This is my personal opinion, but the list has far too many lawyers. 20% of candidates are lawyers, which demonstrates an inappropriately “elitist” model. Fiji does not need more lawyers to make our democracy work. Fiji needs facilitators and processors – the people who will actually get the work done and not people who split hairs on finer points of interpretation (with apologies to m’learned friends). Good governance needs people who ‘can do’.
7. I like those who look for opportunities to take our beloved country forward but these are the minority here. We must continue to fight the good fight. (Wilisoni Tamanikaira, 6/7 2:05pm; Convolutedexperiment 6/7, 3:55pm; Anon, 6/7, 4:45am: Rajesh, 5:26pm; Fiji son, 6/7, 7:22pm; Anon, 6/7 7:23pm; 8:45pm; 9:04pm; 9:15pm; 11:28pm; 7/7, 10:36am; Semi Meo, 12:09pm.

Integrating these comments for democratic rule for our beloved Fiji, we still have a valid legal framework, despite the illegal regime’s attempts to ignore it. As, I have always argued, Fiji should return to the 1997/98 Constitution (Fiji Court of Appeal, April 9th 2009). This is a legitimate path to remove the bias and aliases we have been subjected to since December 5th, 2006. Our elected Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase should lead Fiji back to free and fair elections to voice desires, hopes and aspirations at the ballot box. There is no other way to achieve democratic future, which will be free from coups.
Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni, elected SDL member for Lami Open Constituency (deposed 2006).

Observer said...

BE REALISTIC FIJI ABOUT WHO TO LEAD THE COUNTRY AFTER JVB AND AZK'S ILLEGITIMATE ILLEGAL FALSE CORRUPT SELF RIGHTEOUS ARROGANT, HIGH HANDED, SELFISH, MORALLY CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

WE DO NOT NEED THESE PEOPLE; (A) HAD BEENS OF PAST GOVERNMENTS,(B) PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY NOW IN AZK-JVB GOVERNMENT, (C) CHIEFS OF ALL LEVELS, (D) SOLDIERS OF ALL LEVELS, (E) RETIRED SOLDIERS, (F) POLICE OFFICERS, (G) RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS, (H) BUSINESS PEOPLE, (I) OPPORTUNISTS WHO SERVE ONLY THEMSELVES (EG. SIKELI MATAITOGA, INOKE KUBUABOLA, JOKETANI COKANASIGA), (J) YES-MAN CHARACTERS LIKE THOSE WHO SERVE IN GOVERNMENT NOW...

THE POINT IS WE HAVE TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY; MAYBE PUT IN PLACE A SET OF MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, COMPETENCIES AND QUALITIES, WORK VALUES, ETC FOR THOSE IDENTIFIED TO MEET....

THINK ABOUT IT AND STOP KNEE JERKING WITH YOUR CHOICES.

Anonymous said...

This is a very sorry attempt.

The real issue is to get a system of governance in place that will hold elected officials accountable to their electorates.

Then let the people choose from within their ranks.

Sadly, recent history tells us that the stocks of real leadership in Fiji are pretty bare.

Anonymous said...

We're not talking youth leadership, I hope. Need experienced, specialists, people with management background. A lot of the names are known because of the media not because they have done anything worth mentioning.Not NGO advocates, thank you very much. I say let the election decide.

Anonymous said...

Dear folks... please take time to read the post of
July 6 @ 9.33pm

So true are those thoughts in particular this one I've extracted and reposted below:

"What Fiji needs is a patriot who is successful in his own right self made with overall general intelligence, married loving husband or wife, been through the grind and knows the challenges of living in Fiji. The person must be practical honest to the T speaks all 3 major languages fluently and understands the complexity of all the cultures in Fiji in particular the i-taukei ones."

Maybe the person can at least speak his/her native tongue fluently! Kakua na cameme tikoga vaka-papalagi!

Anonymous said...

Your points and observations are fair and valid Hon. Mere Samisoni.

Fiji needs to go back to where the Government was legal then we can proceed legally move forward from there.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Mere it looks like people don't see you as leadership material. Most of what you have said above merely confirms their judgement of you. Maybe it is time for you to seriously consider your future in politics.

However I would agree with you that the path back to democracy is as laid out in the Court of Appeal decision in April 2009 in line with the 1997 Constitution, which is still very much alive today as per the decision in the Chandrika Prasad case.

This is the only legal basis upon which Fiji can have any real hope of going back to democracy any time soon. I am surprised that some people have taken it upon themselves to suggest some other pathways that have no legal basis under Fiji laws.

Except Mere that the Court of Appeal specifically excluded Qarase and Bainimarama from participating in the caretaker government that is to prepare Fiji for elections upon implementation of the Court of Appeal decision.

I do not see therefore how the Court of Appeal decision can be implemented with Qarase to lead the caretaker government as you suggested. Maybe its a case of looking after your own interests but it is exactly what we do not need at this time.

Anonymous said...

too much talk and dreams no action!!
WHERE THE HELL IS RUM?
HE SHUD HAVE STARTED A REVOLT COS HE IS A SOLDIER BUT RAN AWAY,,,,,,,,,ALL WE DO IS BLOG USELESSLY NO RESULT ON THE GROUND.

VereBau. said...

@ Dr. Samisoni.

Marama - when I think about it - it is rather strange?
Excluding the former PM for obvious reasons - your the only Viti politician who's maintained
credibility - profile & dignity thru all this - and yet everyone
appears to ignore you?
Such is politics.

"Never doubt that thoughtful committed citizens can change society - truth be known its the only thing that ever has".
US anthropologist Margaret Mead.

Not who you believe - implied? Just long time RTB supporter.

Anonymous said...

First things first, get rid of the top two and all their advisors and ministers, then go into elections. So much to undo............

Anonymous said...

Fiji has got to get rid of the illegal junta first. Other wise all this discussion about who will be in Government is a waste of time. Do not get side tracked on technicalities and take one step at a time.

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

@ Anonymous, July 8th 10:48am.
Please, even my 10 year old grandson who is school rugby, football and cricket representative commented you play the ball not the "man".
Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni elected SDL member for Lami Open Constituency
(Depoesed 2006).

Samantha Sue said...

Vinaka C4.5 for posting the question and then this list from the many replies you would have received. Wish the many opposing replies it stands to reason that not only do the people of Fiji want free and fair elections, they want to choose their own candidates. If the people stated in your list do stand for elections, then good luck to them in their campaign.

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

@ Anonymous July 8th,10:46am and Verebau July 8th 10:48am. Thanks and yes on issues of development, we must return to basics and keep the laws simple that apply to all urban, rural and maritime 21st century needs.
Mere.

Anonymous said...

VereBau... the terms is actually VerevakaBau, idiot.

Fiji Observer said...

it's a given that we are going to be divided on who we want for governmnt be it after the elections or taking us to the polls...that's the whole point of us thinking and strategising now as to who are capable of leading fiji. unfortunately as c4.5 has said most of the people with political experience have been around the bloock and we're gunshy of them. same of those with military history like roko ului mara and jone bale by all that's right they shouldn't come anywhere near parliament. but who do we have then? c4.5 hasn't said but reading through the lines i get a sense of the huge character assasinations that must have surfaced with this story. goodmon the likes of dr mere samisoni for braving the critics yet again to put her view forward. i challenge all the arm chair critics to talk construcitvely on this issue for the future of giji.

Anonymous said...

Suliana Siwatibau for leader.

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

@ Verevakabau, Idiot July 9th 10:13am; Samantha Sue 9/7 8:52am and Fiji Observer 9/7 2:47pm, if this debate could stay on track for return to basics (RTB) with respect for human values, Fiji's future for freedom of choice and institutional democracy, should augur well.
Mere.

Anonymous said...

Mere,

I was just pointing out that despite your many postings on this and other sites and active and high profile campaign for democracy, your name did not appear on any of the lists by other contributors for membership of the upcoming caretaker government.

I had wondered why. Maybe you are not considered part of the solution to Fiji's problems although you do have some good ideas.

I was not playing the man at all. Maybe you are confusing your thinking with that of your grandson.

Fiji Son said...

easier said than done to say everyone involved in politics i dirty. anyway that just suits the current dirty regime of bainimarama and kaiyum. let us the people rise above that propaganad and give serious thought to who we can encourage to stand in electiosn and what party to support. somone has already wisely said. sdl and flp may not even be relevant any more or for these coming elections. the challenge is: who can we groom to be ready for the elections? and what will their party affiliaitions be?

Stan said...

who is anthony stevens who has been selected for the post of Governor RBF by someone above?

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

@ Anonymous July 10:48am and 10/7, 11:24am. You take your one eyed shooting from the shadows vote, to a democratic election. It has only one value.
At least 2 people on this C4.5 list of leaders were involved in the strategic planning of the events of December 5th 2006 because they tried to use the Public Accounts Committee (2006) of which I was a member, to lead the “pack of one eyed shooting from the shadows” sample population.
They did not have the numbers then. Neither do they have them now nor in the future as recorded in my affidavit to Police (2007).
People stand for elections, do the “hard mile” to earn the respect and trust of their constituency to lead.
There is no pre-empting or easy way to “control” this process in a democracy.
Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni elected SDL Member for Lami Open Constituency (deposed 2006).

Verebau. said...

@ Anon 10:13am. (verevakabau).

Vinaka - you've obviously confused "terms" with "names".
As for avoiding idiots?
Suggest hermit lifestyle - break your mirror.

Anonymous said...

Ok heres what should happen in fiji. paul fraser president. anthony stevens vice president. sony morell prime minister and fred caine governor general . what can go wrong .