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Thursday, September 8, 2011

Narsey debunks Lowy poll

UNELECTED RULE: Bainimarama remains in control of Fiji with the help of guns and corrupt officials. BELOW: Julia Gillard holding up under unfair pressure.









Shoddy Tebutt Opinion Poll by Lowy Institute
By Dr Wadan Narsey

The interpretations that the Lowy Institute and coup supporters are putting on the recent Tebbutt Research Poll in Fiji would be laughable, if only the long-term consequences of such propaganda were not so tragic for ordinary people of Fiji.


Students of survey methodology should find this “Lowy Institute Poll” extremely  interesting, in a perverse kind of way, on how not to conduct, and how not to interpret sensitive opinion polls in a Fiji, dominated by a climate of fear and intimidation.


A number of relevant questions need to be asked:
1. Is the poll genuinely representative of the views of Fiji people?
2. Could the questions be understood by ordinary Fiji citizens in the time given?
3.  Could citizens honestly answer, given the climate of fear in Fiji (cf the Charter)
4. Why did the Lowy Institute not report all the tables?
5. Which tables did the Lowy Institute choose not to release?
6. Why did the Lowy Institute ignore the political climate of fear in Fiji?
7. Who financed the poll and their interests in Fiji.
8. Links between Tebbutt Research and the Bainimarama Regime and functionaries?


1.  The Tebbutt sample was not representative of Fiji but systematically biased.


The experts in the Household Survey Unit of the Fiji Islands Bureau of Statistics will tell you that to randomly select and poll even one thousand households from the 180,000 households  throughout Fiji, is extremely difficult.



You would need to use the 2007 Census locations for all the households through Fiji (urban and rural, including the islands) and randomly select a properly stratified sample of 1000 households, a very technical and difficult statistical exercise in a country like Fiji.   Secondly, it is a logistical and cost nightmare to train, transport and accommodate interviewers throughout the length  and breadth of Fiji.


No doubt, to save time, effort and money, the Tebbutt Poll restricted itself to urban and peri-urban areas on Viti Levu: Suva, Lami, Nasinu, and Nausori in Central Division, and Nadi, Lautoka, and Ba in the Western Division.


In other words, all households in rural Viti Levu and rural and urban Vanua Levu, and all other islands were left out.  Rural households are the traditional supporters of Qarase and Chaudhry both marginalized by Bainimarama.   In many rural areas, their traditional leaders continue to oppose the Bainimarama Regime: Naitasiri (Takiveikata in gaol); Rewa (Ro Teimumu Kepa continues to suffer persecution by the Regime), and Cakaudrove (Ratu Naiqama Lalabalavu forced to lie low).



The ommitted rural households have also fared very badly since 2006, while urban households  have not suffered so much.



The results of the latest poverty analysis shows that, between 2002 and 2009, poverty in rural areas has worsened:  the sugar industry has been decimated and most of the farmers and cane cutters dependent on the sugar industry will not have been polled.


While the polled urban households generally gained between 2002 and 2009, largely because of their dependence on formal sector employment (with wages and salaries not being cut despite the  economic depression) and large remittance inflows from abroad.


The poll was therefore systematically biased towards favourable responses (even if they were genuinely given) and left out rural responses which would have been more negative.


The Lowy Report tries to create the impression of the poll being very scientific. It claimed (in italics) and my comments (in parentheses) (page 23 of the Report):


The sample was stratified by ethnicity (iTaukei, Indo-Fijian, and other ethnicities), gender, age, and location”.
[The statisticians at FIBoS and Australian Bureau of Statistics would laugh at how Tebbutt Poll would have done this incredibly difficult exercise, which even FIBoS struggles with].
“Start points were selected at random, and respondents were selected at random from within the household, to quota.”
 [Start points may have been selected at random, but it is extremely unlikely that the interviewers would have randomly chosen all the next households to interview, until they reached their “quota”. Probably those closest to the man roads.  More laughs].
“Data was post-weighted to the Fiji Bureau of Statistics population estimates (based on the 2006 census)”.
[All the Tebbutt Poll would have done was ensured that the responses were scaled up to the same national proportions of the ethnic groups recorded by the 2007 Census. 
But there is absolutely no way that urban responses on Viti Levu can be scaled up to represent possible rural responses throughout Fiji, or both urban and rural Vanua Levu. More laughs from the statisticians if this survey claims to represent all Fiji.]


And the final outrageous statement suggesting great statistical accuracy “at 95% confidence level”:   “A truly random survey of the sampled population with this sample size, surveyed with 100% response rate, would produce results with a maximum ±3.04% margin of error at 95% confidence level.”


Yes indeed, this might be true IF it was a “truly random sample”.  But it blatantly was not a random sample, instead, systematically biased towards favourable responses given under fear.


HANSON
LEBOVIC
The Director of Polling (Fergus Hanson) and Research Consultant (Sol Lebovic) should be hanging their heads in shame that they did not point out all these very serious statistical qualifications that were omitted from the Lowy Report (deliberately or otherwise).  Just as well for Caz Tebbutt that it is not her Report but the “Lowy Report”.

2. The totally unrealistic questions asked

There were some 25 questions in each interview lasting a total of 10 to 15 minutes according to the Lowy Report, or roughly 24 seconds to 36 seconds per question.  Let us just say 30 seconds on average.


But look at the questions below and imagine how they would have been understood by average Fiji persons,  in English or, heaven forbid, in Fijian or Hindustani translations. On average, it would take at least 20 seconds to ask most question (some would take five minutes), leaving 10 seconds for the person to think about and given their answers.

Table 1a:
Please rate your feelings towards some countries, with 100 meaning a very warm, favourable feeling, 0 (zero) meaning a very cold, unfavourable feeling, and 50 meaning not particularly warm or cold. You can use any number from zero to 100: the higher the number the more favourable your feelings are toward that country.

There were 14 countries to comment on, in 10 seconds?


Table 1b: Thinking now about the Fiji Government’s relations with governments from other countries, do you personally agree or disagree that it is important for the Fiji government to have a good relationship with the governments of each of the following countries.


Again, 14 countries to choose from:  and what could the answer possibly be except yes to all. But wait:  note the rankings of the countries in Table 1b:  At the top are, in order of popularity:  Australia, NZ, US, and UK.  All countries who have totally disapproved of and acted against the Bainimarama Regime in stopping aid from the EU and getting expelled from the Commonwealth and Forum.


China and India, the countries that have supported the Bainimarama Regime come only fifth and sixth, while the Melanesian Spearhead Group countries who Bainimarama has been actively courting, come even lower down.


Table 2a: Do you personally agree or disagree with the approach the Australian Government has taken towards the current Government in Fiji in response to the 2006 coup?


Table 2b: Following the 2006 coup, the Australian government imposed travel sanctions against members of the Fiji Government and Military and supported the suspension of Fiji from the Commonwealth. Which one of the following approaches do you personally think the Australian government should now take? How on earth could an average Fiji citizen assess such a complex foreign policy measure by Australia, which flummox even academics and Think Tank experts, like Jenny Hayward-Jones.  But hold it. An amazing 36% of Fiji citizens agreed with the sanctions?


Table 3:  Foreign countries should try to pressure for democratic elections in Fiji, OR Foreign countries should allow Fiji to sort out its return to democracy on its own


Table 4A:  Do you personally agree or disagree with Fiji’s suspension from the Commonwealth?


Table 4B: Do you personally agree or disagree with the decision to exclude Fiji from participation in the Commonwealth Games? What on earth can be the normal reaction of ordinary citizens to any kind of sanctions against one’s country and one’s people?

Table 5: Due to travel sanctions, Fiji’s rugby team might miss out on participating in the Rugby World Cup in New Zealand. I am going to read you three statements about this, and please tell me which one you agree with most. Astonishing for rugby mad Fiji, 37% agreed that the sanctions were necessary.



Table 6A: Do you personally agree or disagree that Fiji currently plays a leadership role in the Pacific?

Table 6B:
Thinking back to Fiji’s leadership role say 5 years ago, and comparing that to nowadays, would you personally say that Fiji’s leadership role in the Pacific is now stronger, weaker or about the same? What on earth is happening?  45% of the respondents said that Fiji’s role in the region was now stronger?



Table 7: Please think now about regional organisations. Overall, which one do you personally think is more important for Fiji. Only 16% thought that MSG was more important for Fiji, compared to 51% for Forum. What? The organisation that Bainimarama is most contemptuous of, got four times the approval that the MSG gets?


Table 8: Do you personally think that Australia/New Zealand) should be a member of the Pacific Islands Forum? Now, which Fiji citizen would know about the implications for the Pacific countries of having Australia and NZ as members or not members of the Forum?


Table 9: Do you personally agree or disagree with Fiji’s suspension from the Pacific Islands Forum? What on earth could be the answer to this from ordinary Fiji citizens?


Table 10: Overall, how good a job do you personally think Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama is doing as Prime Minister? Wow.  66% approved of his role as Prime Ministers.


Which person in his right mind in Fiji today would dare tell some interviewer from Suva (who could well be an informer for the army) that Bainimarama was not doing a good job?


What does such a question mean, if there are no alternative Prime Ministers given such as Qarase, Chaudhry, Mick Beddoes, Jai Ram Reddy or Madraiwiwi?


Note: Wikileaks has just revealed that John Samy admitted to the US Ambassador before departing for New Zealand that the alleged public approval of the Charter was strongly influenced by the army intimidation.  But no public revelations yet.


Table 11: Overall, do you personally think that things in Fiji are going in the right direction or in the wrong direction? How on earth could this question be interpreted by the average Fiji citizen?  Right direction?  Wrong direction?  With respect to what policy?


Table 12: Overall, would you personally say the government is doing a very good job, a fairly good job, an average job, a fairly poor job or a very poor job of listening to the views of people like yourself? 87% allegedly said this Military Regime is doing a good or average job of listening to the ordinary people?


In a country where the Parliament (of ordinary people’s representatives) has been closed, whose GCC has been shut down,  where sports organisations have been taken over by the Regime; where legitimate gatherings of (some) churches and unions are banned and people prosecuted; where dissidents are taken up to the camp for “questioning”; where a regional university can be financially blackmailed to get rid of questioning academics?


Table 13:  How good a job do you personally think the Government is doing in terms of delivering services in education, health, transport:   More than 69% said good.


Which ordinary citizen being polled will know how much this coup has cost the country in terms of lost incomes and government revenues and services (more than a billion dollars over four years) in return for a few tens of millions thrown at school busfares or squatter housing?


Which ordinary  citizen being polled will know about the hundreds of millions of dollars of tax-payers’ funds gone missing and four years of Auditor Generals Report not being released by the same Bainimarama Government?


Table 14: How would you rate what the Government is doing in terms of working on…
More than 80% said good or average for the following (but, the facts say otherwise).
Ending racial inequalities and divisions (worse now)
Improving land ownership laws (nothing doing)
Increasing employment opportunities
(worse now)

Improving the economy  (worse now)
Reducing poverty (worse now)
Preparing to draft a new Constitution  ( what’s the hurry- wait another 3 years?)
Making progress towards elections (what’s the hurry? wait another 3 years)
Reforming the electoral system (hey, what’s the hurry? wait another 3 years)


Table 15: Thinking about what effect the new constitution will have, please say whether you personally agree or disagree with the following statements.
More than 70% agree:
            Will lead to a better democracy in Fiji
            Will end racial inequalities and divisions in Fiji
            Will end the coup culture in Fiji



Table 16:   Please say which one of the three statements comes closest to your own personal views about democracy.
Preferable to any other kind of government 53%
Non-democratic government preferable under some circumstances
25%

Doesn’t matter to someone like me 21%


What on earth will ordinary citizens (or even the experts) say about questions 15 and 16, when they don’t even know that the Charter, Roadmaps etc are all repetitions of whatever is there in the 1997 Constitution, and they have no idea at all of what a genuine democracy is, or that a “non-democratic government” is here a surrogate for an illegal  treasonous military Regime?


Table 17: Do you personally think that the Church and other religious organisations should be involved a lot, a little or not at all in politics?


66% said “Not At All”, obviously thinking only of the Methodists being currently bashed by Bainimarama- not of the Hindus, Catholics and Muslims who politically and actively supported Bainimarama’s 2006 coup and his and John Samy’s Charter charade.


Table 18A: Overall, do you personally approve or disapprove of the RFMF’s role in Fiji at the moment?  68% approved.


Who in Fiji would dare to tell an interviewer that they disapprove of the army in the current climate?  How much do the ordinary citizens know about how much extra tax-payers funds the military has been illegally swallowing up since 2006, denying them funds for health (shortage of basic medicines at hospitals - buy your own says Neil Dharma) education  and social welfare.


But hold it.  31% actually said they disapproved, even in this biased sample?  What would the number be without the media censorship, Public Emergency Decree and arbitrary arrests?


Table 18B: Still looking to the future, do you personally agree or disagree that the Republic of Fiji Military Forces should play a permanent role in politics?  53% agree.
Well, well, well.


Table 19: Since the December 2006 coup, do you personally think the local media in Fiji has become more reliable and trustworthy, less reliable and trustworthy or is it about the same as before the coup?


In a country which continues to suffer from total media censorship, with one newspaper owned by a totally pro-Bainimarama business (which also has extended its tentacles to  the Fiji Pension Fund and the Fiji Islands Revenue and Customs Authority), one newspaper whose owner is in gaol and facing more charges, one radio station run by Aiyaz Khaiyum’s brother, and a television station whose control is about to be taken away from Yasana Holdings (the current majority shareholder), by the Military-controlled Fijian Holdings Limited.  


A country where no critical news are allowed about the missing hundreds of millions at FNPF, all kinds of secret under-the-table deals bypassing the tenders board, pensioners’ views on the imminent cutting of their pensions not allowed in the media, or the views of some economists critical of this regime ....


43% of the poll respondents said the media was now more reliable;  31% same; i.e. 74% said the media was the same or more reliable after the 2006 coup. This must really take the cake as far as the reliability of the Lowy Institute Poll is concerned.  Heh heh heh heh heh heh.  Please pick me up from the floor.

20.  Importance of human rights:

The right to freely express yourself (no such freedom in Fiji)
The right to freely vote in national elections (no such freedom in Fiji)
The right to a fair trial (no such freedom in Fiji)
The right to a media free from censorship (no such freedom in Fiji)


With no Bainimarama presence hovering over this question, more than 95% of the respondents said yes. Yet the Bainimarama Regime has deprived Fiji’s people of all these basic human rights.


What is reported and what is not reported
Earlier Tebbutt Poll reports (for The Fiji Times) usually gave break-downs by ethnicity, age, gender and division.  They consistently showed greater Fijian support for Qarase than for Bainimarama; and that Indo-Fijians showed greater support for Bainimarama- largely because of his rhetoric of racial equality.


Whether that Indo-Fijian support would still be there today in a secret referendum is an interesting question, given that the sugar industry has significantly declined, casual wage earners (mostly Indo-Fijian) have suffered badly because of the stagnating economy, and Indo-Fijian leaders have been marginalised  (a few swallows don’t make a summer).


The detailed ethnic break-downs are not given for every table, however dubious the results. Were the rural areas to be randomly polled as well, all the results in support of Bainimarama would go down, despite the upward pressure from the “fear factor”.


Clear Lowy Report bias towards Bainimarama
The Report may be easily characterised as portraying the Bainimarama Regime in a good light, not just from the cover picture of a very respectable looking Bainimarama speaking at the United Nations.


The introduction to the Lowy Report alleges that the differences between the Qarase SDL/FLP Govenrment and Bainimarama emerged over the three contentious Bills- Reconciliation, Tolerance and Unity Bill, the Qoliqoli Bill and the Land Tribunal Bill.


But more and more evidence is coming out that Bainimarama had been planning the 2006 coup from the time that the Qarase Government wanted him prosecuted for the several deaths in military custody, surcharged for over-spending the military budget in 2004, 2005 and removed as Commander for insubordination.


Some allegations are now being made by Major Mara that Bainimarama may have initially supported the 2000 coup and the removal of Chaudhry’s Government.


But the Lowy Report simplistically claims “When the government did not meet all the military’s demands, Bainimarama seized power and assumed the position of Prime Minister, which he has maintained to date. He promised to engage in a clean-up campaign to rid Fiji of corruption and to eliminate racial inequalities in Fiji. Bainimarama said elections would be held when the country was stable and when appropriate electoral reforms were implemented”.


No comment at all on all the broken promises since 2006 or the final treasonous abrogation of the 1997 Constitution in 2009, by a manipulated senile President.


The Lowy Report is full of strange strained logic which puts a positive spin on the Bainimarama Regime, and tries to ultimately suggest that Australia is out of line and should lift all its sanctions and restore all links with the Bainimarama Regime.


This is the line that Jenny Hayward-Jones has consistently taken over the last couple of years, driven largely by the view that Australia has been out maneuvered and being displaced in the Pacific by China.


It would be more honest of the Lowy Institute if they were to honestly come out and maintain their arguments purely on foreign policy interests of Australia vis a  vis China. There was no need to engage in a statistical charade of an opinion poll, with unrealistic questions being asked of ordinary Fiji citizens in a climate of fear, with outrageous conclusions being reached based on the unreliable responses received.


It does not help that Caz Tebutt has personal business interests in pushing the Fiji Australia Business Council line for restoration of normal Australian relations with Fiji: her opinion poll business took a nosedive with the 2006 coup and Australian sanctions on Fiji (but ironically encouraged her to extend her business to the Pacific and earned her an Exporter of the Year Award). Her business could do with a revival of the Fiji economy.


It is not plausible of the Fiji Regime spokesperson (more than a passing acquaintance of Caz Tebbutt) to claim that the Regime had no idea that such a great expert survey was being conducted.  Nor is it plausible for Tebutt Research to claim that they did not ask for permission from the Regime but just “sought legal opinion”.


It also does not help the Lowy Institute reputation that this poll was co-financed privately by one Mark Johnson AO who supposedly has mineral exploration interests in Vanua Levu.


Given the positive spin that this Lowy Poll has put on Bainimarama, Johnson will no doubt be glad to have Bainimarama’s goodwill over the next few years when his business interests in Fiji come on stream and he has to negotiate taxation regimes with the Regime.

Dishonest pressure on Australian Government

It is ludicrous that the Lowy Institute should use the dubious responses from a 1032 ordinary relatively under-educated citizens of Fiji, to place pressure on the Australian Government to change its foreign policy stance on Fiji.


Or to pressure the Forum countries to do the same.
It is dismaying that writers like Graham Davis, who are given credibility by national Australian newspapers like The Australian, should contemptuously contrast the “high popularity rating” of Bainimarama from the grossly biased Tebbutt Poll with the allegedly low rating of Prime Minister Julia Gillard in Australia.


Davis and other coup supporters like Croz Walsh should note that for a proper comparison to be made, Julia Gillard would have to:
* use guns to remove a lawful government and make herself Prime Minister
* illegally over-spend tax-payers funds amounting to more than twice the Health Budget
* stop five years of Auditor General’s Reports on Government revenues and expenditure
* hide reports on the losses of hundreds of millions of dollars of pension funds resulting from decisions made by boards appointed by herself;
* illegally pay herself 30 years of back-pay for leave she allegedly did not take
* stop the audit of Regimental Funds abused by successive Military Commanders
* pay herself multiple salaries through a private accounting firm which also receives large business deals without going through proper tender processes
* have total media censorship in place, with a Public Emergency Decree that bans all meetings not wanted by her
* and ensure a judiciary that enforces Military Decrees including those which state that the Regime may not be taken to court for anything.
The list is still growing.   Fiji is a small place and truth will eventually come out about  everything.


Simply because this regime had maintained a stranglehold on Fiji for the last five years does not in any way make it right or that it is going to be good for Fiji in the long run.


Nor does it mean that neighbouring Forum countries should just accept the “bad boy” back in the fold, as Anote Tong (Kiribati President) so naively suggests.


Forum countries who keep supporting Bainimarama for whatever reason they have, need to think about the day when their own soldiers or police forces may forget their oaths of obedience to the lawful elected government of the day and copy Bainimarama.


We Fiji people know now that we cannot expect any support from the US Government who (as Wikileaks has revealed) knew all the dirt on the Bainimarama Regime, but chose to not support Australia and NZ pressures on Fiji, because of their own foreign policy need for Fijian troops in Iraq and Afghanistan (likewise the morally bankrupt UN).  Tough luck for human rights and democracy in Fiji, eh?


For the Pacific, the Lowy Institute has just undermined itself very badly as an independent and objective “Think Tank”.


It shows itself to be just a private lobby group, indulging in propaganda, manipulating shonky opinion polls, to justify its foreign policy view for Australia, based largely on fear of China.


The Australian Government needs to ask whether the Lowy Institute really deserves Australian tax-payers funds in order to so contemptuously undermine long term law and order, constitutionality, and basic human rights in Pacific Island countries.

51 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lowy Institute has never had any Credibility. Its all propaganda. Beats all logic that Frank Lowy who owns Woolworths is a capitalist and than runs a very left wing Institute, who are closely connected to the Unions in Australia. Yet, The Unions in Australia are against the Bainimarama Regime, while the Lowy Institute is more pro Regime. Defies logic. hahaha.. Weird Much.

What next for Lowy said...

What is the next assignment for Hayward Jones? A survey on the popularity of hitler run by the SS?

Mafi..USA said...

Thanks Narsey!! Well said and its always interesting to read your contribution in this site.
Well its a pity to understand how an international agency tries to potray an Illegal and Dictatorial leadership as good. What if this was happening in Aus, what would they say???? I believe that they dont need to take a poll but could simply an bluntly say that the Govt of the day is going to destroy the future of its people.
I could clearly understand that the outcome of the poll was the close relationship that the agency and the illegal govt has. All that was needed was for the agency to provide a report that totally favours the govt and all their illegal activities, so that they, the govt can use the report to potray to the other countries that they are doing well. When in reality, the people are suffering and the economy is barely on the bottom of the barrel.
Thanks again Warden. You are the man. Well said and supported by facts. That is why you always makes head rolling at the Illegal PM's Office and illegal AG's office.

Tappoo Hater said...

The Lowry Institute survey findings is the biggest JOKE. The regime is getting closer to their demise with all this fraudulent polls. Long live democracy!

Anonymous said...

Govt receives ILO report
Publish date/time: 08/09/2011 [15:49]

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The Fiji government has received a response from the International Labour Organization’s Director General in relation to the report compiled by the ILO delegation that was in the country last month.

The high level delegation was in the country to assess issues in relation to trade union rights.

Attorney General Aiyaz Saiyed-Khaiyum confirmed Government has received a letter from the ILO stating their visit to Fiji.

However, Sayed-Khaiyum refused to give further details.

Meanwhile, New Zealand Prime Minister and Chair of the Pacific Islands Leaders Forum John Key said Pacific leaders are also considering sending a UN delegation to Fiji to uncover alleged human rights abuses.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon said he supported the idea but it would need to be overseen by the UN Human Rights Council.


Story by: Sofaia Koroitanoa

Anonymous said...

Fiji needs a poll on human rights abuse and the scams the junta are doing.

Anonymous said...

The saddest thing about this piece is that Waden Narsey has such a low opinion of ordinary people in Fiji. He portrays them as being too stupid to know what they were saying whereas he's the big academic know-all. Attacking the Lowy Institute is one thing. But this is an attack on his own countrymen. Shame on you, Waden.

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni said...

Thanks, Prof.
The opinion poll by the Lowey Institute is a farce.
When the motive of any structure or organization is dishonorable that fact and link (demon) will cause its demise.
How is it possible to have a credible poll in Fiji's present political and social climate with all the “gagging” in place by PER, Media and Criminal Decrees???
Did they not know they would be used for propaganda purposes, by this Regime?? And therefore would reflect badly on them?
How unprofessional and naive of the Lowey Institute?

Dr. Mere Tuisalalo Samisoni elected SDL Member for Lami Open Consituuency (deposed 2006).

Anonymous said...

The Forum is over. Here is the outcome;

1. Fiji under the totally useless military junta is still rejected
2. Kiribati is sinking but now at a faster rate thanks to ting tong
3. The Lowy institute has lost all credibility
4. Jenny Haward Jones, DFAT reject, has been sacked by Lowy and also rejected for a job at K Mart
5. European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso said Thursday he saw few signs that Fiji’s “repressive” military regime had made any progress to return to democracy
6. The MSG is now running cooking classes with somare the grand chief guest as ‘Bernie’
7. The PM of Samoa can’t stop laughing
8. Croz Walsh has done his family a favour and topped himself
9. Sharon gobbles has choked herself on her colostomy bag, and
10. The poverty stricken under sharia law in Fiji are now even more destitute

…but all is not lost – the price of sugar for fiji consumers has trebled and there are no passports….oh, and the gutless gates has done a runner. Who said coups do not add value???

Anonymous said...

@12:12 AM. It's Westfield, not Woolworths.

Anonymous said...

Truth be known this survey does not reflect Frank Lowy's philosophy - intentions or beliefs.

Anonymous said...

THEY DELETED THIS COLUMN TOO. "ARE YOU HAPPY THAT THIS ILLEGAL PM IS EARNING $850,000.000 A YEAR WHICH PUT HIM THE MOST HIGHEST PAID CIVIL SERVANTS?" SEE THE RESPOND IF THAT WASN'T ELIMINATED FROM THE LIST. KANALOTO

The Oracle said...

Wadan Narsey's analysis is spot on. All Tebbutt Research surveys have a pre-determined agenda tailored to meet a desired outcome.
Just look at the questions!! How are ordinary Fijians expected to answer except by YES or NO.
Examples of past Tebbutt Research include:
Do you listen to FM96? (No options about other radio stations you may listen to or why you prefer them over FM96).
Do you drink Punja's Ceylon tea? (No options about other brands. And if your answer is NO, then they skip a section and take you on to another question - again, about Punja's products)
So, the desired poll outcome is evident - it's tailored to meet the expectations of the organisation footing the survey bill!!!
I don't know if Caz Tebbutt is indeed pro-Bainimarama but I do know her survey's are "stacked". I've had to point survey deficiencies out to her young and often apologetic "researchers" on several occasions. Now, I don't even bother answering their questionnaires!!!

Anonymous said...

Fiji poll beside the point says Gillard

18:17 AEST Thu Sep 8 2011

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8296200

Prime Minister Julia Gillard says a poll suggesting Fiji's self-styled leader Frank Bainimarama is much more popular than she is beside the point.

She told reporters in New Zealand on Thursday that wanting Fiji to return to democracy was not about opinion polls, but about values.

"At the end of the day whatever caused people to give the answers they gave, this is not a question for opinion polling," Ms Gillard said.

"This is a values question.

"(It's) do you believe in democracy or not, and I do."

A Lowy Institute survey has revealed that two-thirds of Fijians approve of Commodore Bainimarama, who led the 2006 coup against Fiji's then prime minister Laisenia Qarase.

It's a far cry from Ms Gillard's own support levels in the most recent Newspoll, which had her voter satisfaction rating falling to a new low of just 23 per cent.

Ms Gillard backed the view of Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi that the poll was unreliable and Fijians were too scared to say what they really felt.

"It's hard for us in Australia to imagine. For us it's routine, we have lots of opinion polls, and people feel free to say whatever they want to say," she said.

"But the sense of pressure is quite different in Fiji."

Mr Tuilaepa said all the polls before the last eight elections his party had won had been "completely wrong".

"Well said," Ms Gillard responded with a laugh.

She urged Fiji to return to democracy at the earliest opportunity.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE ASKED ABOUT 100 PEOPLE IN SUVA ,NO ONE WAS KNOWS ABOUT THE RESEARCH,WHO INTERVIEWED,AND ANY ONE WHO WAS QUESTIONED PLEASE TELL OF YOUR EXPERIENCE
SHARON WHAT A SHAM .

Anonymous said...

the regime censored the poll too haha.With P E R in place how was the poll conducted .bullmakau bai

Anonymous said...

Well done Dr Narsey!! Just add to the list that to compare with FB, Julia will need 30 overpaid and overfed bodyguards all taken care of by taxpayers money, a squad of taxpayer paid thugs terrorising those who have an opinion, a convicted murderer of a brother in law as permanent secretary, a daughter as head of the Sports Council, military officers guilty of the Rabaka murder returned to baracks.....the list goes on..

MATAVUVALE said...

ELECTIONS NOW SAYS FIJI TRADE UNION CONGRESS

08/09/2011

The Fiji Trade Union Congress has called for immediate free and fair elections under the 1997 Constitution and return to democracy.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:42am and 9:44am

Perhaps Smith-Johns was the only person interviewed!...lol...

Anonymous said...

What Lowy should ask is whether the people in Fiji know that Fiji has been denied $28 million euros for sugar because they don't accept the situation in Fiji. Caz should go take a poll with Cabinet and see how many of that bunch know how that affects the 22,000 families that rely on the industry. LOWY CAZ and FIJI Government - go live their life for a week only and tell me what you feel!!

Anonymous said...

And I forgot to add, now that Barrosa of EU has spoken that millions not coming because they can't accept the situation in Fiji, what has the mouthpiece to say LOL. After his jaunt to Africa, FB's mouthpiece released statements saying ACP would lobby for Fiji to get its share of the Euros....wishful thinking LOL

Anonymous said...

Thank you Prof Wadan
Thank you C4.5
It's now apparent that the research was tailored in such a way to favor Mr Johnson's business dealings.

Caz Tebbutt obviously sold herself to the highest bidder again.

Thus the research is not worth the paper written on and deserves its rightful place in the toilet.
It shouldn't be called "research"
It's crap.
What's disturbing to me is how the Lowy Institute influences Australian govt policy.
I think we should expose the Lowy Institute for it's biased ,unhelpful and even damaging surveys.
We should all e mail "ABC Four Corners Programme" and get Kerry O'Brien to investigate the Lowy Institute.
If you go to "The ABC Four Corners" website, there is a place there where you can send in your suggestions anonymously.
I'm going to send off an e-mail to them.

-Valataka na Dina.

fiji heart said...

someone kerekere also send this article to jgillards office.

Na Dina like your idea about kerry investigating but notes that nz and aussie media ran as a pack on this poll release from Lowy.

None of them questioned the findings

Anonymous said...

@ Dr, Mere Samisoni.

Confident Lowy Institute views do not reflect patron - maybe you should contact him via www westfields? Remind him Israel is a popular boys name in Viti.

Anonymous said...

No one,absolutely no one can be in their right mind to believe anything this research is showing.My goodness after all we have been thru ,and after what we know first hand,the human rights abuses,the rise in poverty,unemployment,abuse of taxpayers money,nepotism,deteriorating health services,PER,shutting up unions...etc...etc.Why didn't the survey ask these questions???
Or may I suggest that if Lowy wants to get some credibility back they should do another survey on the issues I have mentioned .This survey really hurts us b'cos nothing like this can happen in Austrailia.We are a poor nation and have become more poor after the coup and these developed countries are having a field day doing such surveys.What is with the Austrailian people?Can't you see that we are sufferring.If you can't help then please don't damage us further.

Anonymous said...

Questions raised over legitimacy of Fiji poll‎

Radio Australia News
http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au/stories/201109/3313383.htm?des...

But the national secretary of the Fiji Trades Union Congress, Felix Anthony, told Pacific Beat he did not think the people who answered the survey questions were being honest.

"This poll, I think at best would only indicate how intimidated people are," he said.

The comment was echoed by the International Commission of Jurists in Australia.

The organisation's president, John Dowd, told Pacific Beat Fiji was operating under an illegal constitution and that the legal fraternity was powerless to take action.

"You'd have to say they are intimidated," he said.

"They can see the writing on the wall, they know that if any of them speak out in Fiji they will be targeted themselves and I perfectly understand the fear that there must be in the legal profession."

Navosavakadua said...

There a few questions that need be asked about this survey. The first is was it carried out with the approval of the regime. With the tight censorship in place, it’s hard to imagine people being allowed to go around asking questions about the approval rating of a tin-pot dictator without formal permission. That’s not the way tin-pot dictatorships work.

Secondly, if the regime did approve the survey, what conditions did they impose? Did they supply any of the people administering the survey? It looks like the questions were translated into the two major vernaculars by the people conducting the survey. Was there an approved translation? If so, it should be presented with the report. If not, a lot of responsibility rests with the people entrusted to carry out the survey. If these have been provided by, say the Ministry of Information, there’s a lot of scope for the wording to be badly twisted.

So the final question is: was this study commissioned by the regime itself and published by the Lowy Institute or was it commissioned by the Lowy Institute?

The front cover, covered in a picture of the tin-pot dictator himself shows all the signs of having been approved by the regime. Besides,the 82 percent approval rating of the regime’s education and 71 percent for transport are simply impossible to believe. One egg too many for this pudding.

The Regime’s propaganda rag touts the survey as a poll by the Lowy Institute, but that’s NOT what it says in their report. They launched the report, which is attributed to Tebbutt Research.

Anonymous said...

@Matavuvale.9:56am..WORKER`S REPS..of this country and their members fully support FTUC in it`s fight to to have Fiji returning to the polls as soon as possible.
THUMBS UP FOR DEMOCRACY!!!.

Anonymous said...

Prof Narsey may wish to make aspersions about the ability of the vast unwashed masses to take part in any poll put before them, BUT he should make no mistake about who is ultimately responsible for the situation Fiji is in, and that can and is layed at his door! Him and the rest of the elite off Fiji for the past 40 years. The elite of our society, in every field, Chiefly, Military, Religiuosly, Business, the supposed professional Societies, Law, Accounting, Engineeribg, etc, you name it.

Yes, Pro Narsey and the rest are all directly responsible.
Simple urbanites and villagers have had no part in the dismantling of our nation.....so to all of YOU , FUCK OFF with your polls.

None of you are struggling to feed our families OK.
This pack of leaders is no better or worse then the last pack of vultures and will be no better or worse then the next bunch of mongrels.
Parasites
- the supposed honest members of Society are the worst, for you can not expect dishonest men to correct injustice. It falls on the honest men and women to fight injustice and we can so literaly see in Fiji, that we do not have a critical mass of these in Fiji.

...and that is the reason for Fiji's problems, nothing more, nothing less.

Professor, HONESTY has nothing to do with education.
Look to the lawyers in our Society. The ultimate "ELITE" ,loads of education, but the ultimate filth and depravity. The sewarage of Society.
Prof.if you want to talk about stupid people then make that a separate paper and topic of dicusion so we can make a comparative study of stupid white men, black men, brown men, yellow men and pink men on the other side of the moon.

Cheers
Keep up the good work. I love your courage and dedication and with a few more like you Fiji can be a better place.

Anonymous said...

I can understand that the poll is immensely detrimental to this website, and Narsey does make a valid point about several key aspects of data that are not revealed. However, the numbers also make sense. 1/3 of Fiji is made up indo fijians, the nearly all of them would support Bainimarama minus the few corrupt Gujarati millionaires. The 1/3of the 2/3 native Fijian support on behalf of Frank is also accurate and makes sense. If Frank was to run as PM in a democratic election, he would win overwhelmingly. The dictator can also become the elected PM because he has the support. It may not be popular, but its the truth.

Anonymous said...

The milk is spilt. The damage is done. And everyone needs to realise that the Lowy poll is a true reflection of the reality in Fiji. Don't agree with me? OK, where's the popular revolt against the Baini? It isn't happening and believe me, everywhere he goes, ordinary people greet him like a hero. You need to be there to see it, not sit at your internet keyboards wishing things were otherwise. Too many people here like Narsey are deluded. It's over. The dictator has won. If you don't like him, you'll get your chance at the elections in 2014. But stop attacking the messenger.

Anonymous said...

Mr Lowy, is a Jew. How would he feel if 61% of people surveyed said that Hitler was good for the Jews?

So why come and tell us that another pispot dictator is good for us?

Tebbutt Research is obviously filled with people who are blinded by greed and money.

-Valataka na Dina.
(by the way I'm not anti-Jew. My Lord Jesus is a Jew. I'm just against so-called educated people who behave like idiots.In this case, the Tebbutt Research panel)

NadroKid said...

Thank you Professor Narsey and Coup4.5.

To Coup 4.5...can I suggest that you put up a simple poll on your site (maybe above the Chat) and allow the people to record their opinion of this lawless regime. It will be interesting to compare the results with the Lowy poll.

Anyway, thanks for all the hard work. Keep it up people and lets remove this lawlessness regime for good.

Pacific in the Media said...

a@Nadrokid: thank you for the prompt, poll on the way.

Poll Busted said...

Bainimarama supporters trying to suggest the poll is a blow to c4.5 and those fighting for democracy. Hilarious. The Lowly Poll was so obviously bogus in the first place hahahaha.

Anonymous said...

Jokers says...

NOTHING COMES OUT FROM A COUP IS CREDIBLE BECAUSE ITS EXECUTION IS WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IF WE GET THIS RIGHT THEN WE CAN TALK POLLS.

NO COUP IS EVER RIGHT AND JUST - ALL COUPS ARE WRONG AND BAD AND DESTRUCTIVE TO HUMAN LIVES.

THANK YOU AGAIN PROFESSOR WADAN FOR YOUR COMMENTARIES.

YOU KEEP NAILING THEM ON THE HEAD LIKE THIS THE ILLEGAL REGIME WILL GO MAD AND ANOTHER 360 DEGREES ACHIEVING NOTHING.

Savasava said...

the truth will always prevail..and to you all doubtful minded people like Mere,Narsey,Nadro Kid,Vavosavakadua,etc..etc..I request you to tow the line ..give a hand ...and rebuilt Fiji

simple and easy...the more you against the far the election

Amen..

Anonymous said...

There are a few fundermental issues you have to sort out before staring any form of research - or poll.
1. one is have the correct /right sample size so as to reflect the sum of the total of what you sampling!
THIS POLL DOES NOT DO THAT-TOO SMALL A SAMPLE SIZE TO MAKE ANY BENEFICIAL CONCLUSIONS! Almost boarders on heresay! You might have just stood outside the market in Suva & asked everyone that passes by the questions on the military with the hope that they will be honest in their opinion-Yeh in front of all the people! You must be joking.
2. In what language was the poll conducted -Just English? There are various language & dialets spoken in Fiji you may ask a question in English which totally means something else for someone whose mouth tongue is not English!
3.Was bias ever considered when taking this poll when it came to asking questions on the Regime or Bainimarama? Who were the supporters of Qarase ,Chaudry-which areas in Fiji did they reside in? Did they all get a chance?
4. Whats the racial breakdown of those polled? Whose paid for the Poll??
5.Too many issues or "comfounders" to say anything more but if any student of Statistics uses this as an assignent they will basically get a Pass mark of 1.5 out of 10. That is for wasting their time asking a 1000+ people(who also ended up getting their time wasted) answering the questions!For all you know the people answering were army personnel or retired army people??
6. But i would love to know HOW MANY PEOPLE DECLINED TO TAKE PART IN THE POLL AT THE ONSET WHEN ASKED! That single figure will tell me more than all the numbers they have PUBLISHED.
7.HOW MAY DECIDED TO WITHDRAW FROM THE POLLS-WHEN THE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED! That single figure provides more answers than all my questions they have setup for the polls in reagards to: Bainimaramas leadership, comparisons as PM, military involvement etc.
In conclusion these Aussies still think people who come from 3 world countries are dopes and this is a very good example where polls are used to benefit a CAUSE-done all the time, done everytime only people they fooling are the FOOLS!But the beauty of it not too many of our politicians have had the courage to ask-they all took the polls/research results and accepeted it as the TRUTH or squed it to suit their own means well you now all know difference!

Anonymous said...

Re the criticism that the Lowy Institutes polling was probably flawed by being confined to urban respondents. My recent experiences suggest that a poll of rural taukei would return an even higher level of support for Bainimarama than this survey has.

Anonymous said...

Come on Narsey stop looking for things that are not there. When was the last time you step out for where ever you are to go to a rural or remote part of Fiji....not in the past ten years but just five years...that so called support for Chaudary and Qarase you claim is not there. You have been out of touch with the reality.

Poll Pill said...

Professor Narsey's analysis goes a long way to right the askewed findings of the Tebutt research. But really any of us in Fiji could tell it was meant to lift Frank up. Only the most naive would have accepted this sample survey as majority view of just a thousand people. Now if was100,000 that might be a different case.

Anonymous said...

@Valataka na Dina. Why are you being so protective? There was absolutely no need for that bracketed commented.

The argument IS about the bogus poll, and yes, "Lowy, is a Jew", and he is is a former delivery truck driver.

And yes, "How would he feel if 61% of people surveyed said that Hitler was good for the Jews?"

The story Lowy had kept to himself for so long was the horrifying daily drama of his life as a 13-year-old Jewish boy learning to fight for survival in Hungary.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business-old/property/holocaust-truth-set-frank-lowy-free/story-e6frg9gx-1225952919237

Anonymous said...

If Bainimarama and his supporters are so sure of his support why hasn;t he let the country go to the polls - the real polls?

Anonymous said...

Great stuff Wadan as always. I am curious? If the Tebbutt Research & Lowy Institute's so called poll is as they say it is, and the Regime enjoys a 65% approval rating which would be greater then the % held by the constitutionally elected SDL government in the last general elections then can they explain to the people, why it is such a popular government still feels the need to maintain the Emergency Regulations? Why does such a popular government feel the need to continue to suppress the people through the ER when 65% of the population are supposed to be their supporters? If as the polls suggest the people support the direction in which the Regime is taking the country, why haven't they removed their ban on freedom of expression? Why not let the 65% support they claim the Regime has freely express themselves? Why would such a popular Regime not remove all media censorship and allow the 65% majority supporters they have according to Lowy to opportunity to openly express themselves? And with this effort, Is the Lowy Institute & the Tebbutt Research suggesting to the people of Fiji that the best way for us to elect our future leaders is not through the 'ballot box' as we did in MAY 2006, but use similar tactics as the Regime did in December 2006 and over time through the suppression and intimidation of the people and denial of their basic human rights, if our next Regime can hang on long enough, some misguided misinformed Institute like Lowy & Tebbutt will come along and conduct a poll in an attempt to justify the original act of treason?

Can I suggest that the Lowy Institution & Tebbutt consider conducting similar polls in Libya, Egypt, Syria and ask the people the same silly questions they asked 1,000 people in Fiji and lets see how that turns out.

Or will their report suggest that Pacific Dictators are friendlier then Middle East Dictators, so that makes it OK to remove an elected government in Fiji, but not so OK elsewhere?

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 3:11
Which part of my comment you didn't like? The bit about about I'm not anti-Jew or the bit about the idiots who conducted the poll?

-Valataka na Dina.
(if someone brought to Mr Lowy's attention what I said, I bet Caz will get her butt kicked).

Savasava said...

Anon @ 3.11pm...please, dont you speak any single word against the Jews...I wll be your worst enemy..vinaka vakalevu

Anonymous said...

@1:28 AM. It's irrelevant whether or not you're anti-Jew, anti-Black, anti-Indian, etc. Or whether your 'Lord' is a jew, an indian, a whiteman, or a red indian.

You made your point (and it was a very good point) and that was also that was necessary. No more.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Lowly's "institute" has lost all credibility, that's assuming if it had any. Perhaps he ought to stop creating these stink tanks and go back to what he knows best - truck driving. F O LOWLY.

Anonymous said...

@Savasava 8:15 AM. This is the same brainwashed loser who recently commented that "this Govt will bring prosper into Fiji where God given mineral resources will surface and nations will flock to Fiji in tens of thousands to witness the POWER of the ALMIGHTY...please let us be patient, we are almost there...Amen"

You really have your head buried in the sand. Go get some lessons!

Savasava said...

@Anonymous 3:11 & 9:06, Bro I think you should stop smoking marijuana.
Iko sa delusional tiko valevu.

Anonymous said...

Thankyou Professor Narsey.
I hope you can wait on the sidelines for an appropriate position for you in the new Fiji.
... we will be in desperate need of people with your knowledge and experience to get the nation back up and running again.
Fiji can not afford to lose its most talented interlect/ wisdom.
There will be a very important roll for advisors and administrators to turn around the degraded and corrupted government
departments.
Thank you Prof. W. Narsey
-Sydney Tourist