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Sunday, February 12, 2012

A case of even the Russians not trusting thieves?

Lavrov bypasses the regime and donates money directly to the Red Cross and speaks on the Chinese-American influence in the Pacific


Ministry of Information

Following the recent visit to Fiji by the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Federation this week donated $20,000 USD ($34,705 FJD) to the Fiji Red Cross Society as flood relief assistance.

Fiji Red Cross Society disaster youth coordinator, Eseroma Ledua said that donations as such were used for the replenishment of disaster stocks in strengthening logistics on the ground.

“Our volunteers are currently working in Ba and Nadi, we have completed our delivery of food supplies to families that were affected during the recent floods,” Mr Ledua said.

Mr Ledua also added that Fiji Red Cross volunteers were now concentrating on delivering health hygiene kits.

Fiji Red Cross will also formally thank all donors once they have completed operations in the Western Division. Cross will also formally thank all donors once they have completed operations in the Western Division.

Russia on China in the Pacific
Shawnna Robert; Editing by Charles Rault | © DiploNews, all rights reserved.
In an interview published in the Izvestia newspaper on January 27, 2012, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov directly addressed a perceived Chinese-American struggle for influence in the Asia Pacific region and how Russia plans to maintain its influence. The premise of the statement is based on a recent shift in policy by the U.S., part of which is inspired by a potential shift in power in the region as a result of China’s military buildup. According to Lavrov, Russia already is a stabilizing factor in the region and hopes to strengthen its role as such in the future. Given the multiple armament and economic security threats in the area, Lavrov said the growing interest in the region is justified. However, he cautioned that it is important that foreign interests must avoid heated confrontation and maintain mutually stimulating partnerships. He claimed a friendly and mutual beneficial relationship with nearly every country in the region, with an emphasis on comprehensive development and multilateral diplomatic dialogue.
In the interview, Lavrov boasted the impact that a 2010 Russian-Chinese proposal for a comprehensive cooperation and security mechanism in the Asia Pacific region could have in laying the foundation for a regional security system based on international law. He hopes these ideas become a unifying factor moving forward, and already has seen some provisions mentioned in high-level bilateral meetings across the region. While the joint Chinese-Russian proposal seemed to garner minimal attention back when it was first announced, Lavrov has brought the initiative up in multiple interviews in the past weeks as he continues to blaze the trail for the upcoming APEC Summit in September. Russia will host the summit, scheduled for September 8th and 9th, and plans an ambitious lineup of events leading up to September. With seven months left until the summit, we can expect to hear more image-building rhetoric from Russia on its role in the Asia Pacific region.
In announcing that the U.S. is entering a Pacific century, the U.S. government has been initiating significant shifts military and diplomatic policy. The most notable change so far is the decision to establish the first American base in Australia. Considering the enormous economic importance the Asia Pacific region has for the U.S., including the manufacturing and shipping of goods, the U.S. has a sense of responsibility to ensure stability. The list of destabilizing factors the U.S. anticipates includes China’s military build-up and the potential for a shift in regional power, uncertainty in the Korean peninsula, and the instabilities that can come from quick economic growth. In particular with China, although there is a growing sentiment among experts that it is unlikely that China will become a military threat to the U.S., the pace and scope of China’s expansion of military capabilities has raised concerns about China’s intentions. The U.S. sees the potential for a disproportionately powerful China to destabilize regional military and diplomatic balances.
China has been aggressively expanding its diplomatic reach in the region over the past few months, including with India, Singapore, and South Korea. China is not entirely fond of the implied message of the decision to build up a military presence and focus on the region. Official word from China takes issue with the familiar claims stresses that its military build up is for peaceful modernization, and that its strategic intention is clear, open, and transparent. However, it does respect the U.S. legitimate interests in the region and welcomes the U.S. as a constructive force. China also takes plenty of opportunities to point out the cooperation-damaging steps the U.S. often takes, most notably the regular sales of arms to Taiwan. U.S.-Chinese military representatives meet frequently and are working to prevent any misunderstandings that may arise from mutual suspicion. These meetings are not negotiations to change either countries actions, however, and both parties remain committed to their policies.
Russia does seem to have a number of mechanisms available to help ensure stability in the region if it choses to. Among the economic factors it can use to its advantage are: extensive gas exports, with pipelines that extend into the Asia Pacific region and plans for expansions; an overly strong raw materials export sector, which will be a benefit to the region’s other WTO members now that Russia has acceded to the WTO; a continued strong demand for imports of finished products and consumer goods, which in turn results in a reliable stream of revenue for the region’s producers and exporters. As a result, Russia could play an important role in stabilizing the economic situation in the region, which will encourage political and social stabilization as well, so long as Russia refrains from using its export resources as a diplomatic tool.
Militarily, despite the pitfalls of an aging fleet, Russia is still an important military power in the region. It is in the midst of a military build-up to replace its aging fleet and to reinvigorate its defense industry exports. However, this build-up keeps getting stuck in contract negotiations and thus has been much slower than expected. Eventually, Russia’s military exports could work to keep the balance of power in the region by helping China’s neighboring countries to reinvigorate their own militaries. Though Russia and China have friendly relations and similar policy goals, Russia tends to continue exporting arms despite controversy, as it does to Syria, if international law allows and so long as the relationship with the bilateral partner is mutually beneficial.
Diplomatically, it is not entirely clear if these mechanisms translate into being an effective middle-man between the U.S. and China on potentially heated topics that my arise from an increased presence of the U.S. in the Asia Pacific region. The lack of coordination on efforts in Syria, Iran, Israel, and other regions raises questions on how effective a partner Russia can be. Also, countries around the world recognize that Russia’s own political stability has an impact on worldwide economic and diplomatic power. Russia’s current internal political turmoil potentially jeopardizes the future of Russia’s stability mechanisms; if there is another large public outcry following the presidential elections, the resulting fallout could lead to a tumultuous time in Russian politics and disrupt the balance of power worldwide. In an instant, Russia can go from being a stabilizing factor in the Asia Pacific to a destabilizing factor. Thus, Russian officials have a strong incentive to maintain consistency in internal power structures and to quiet the political opposition.

Unpacking Russia's stabilizing role in the Asian Pacific


mark manning said...

China has a right to protect its interests and to me, seems over the years, to have moved toward a more conciliatory approach worldwide, except for some questionable dealings in regards to minerals and resources and how they subsequently treat people of the nations from where those resources are sought, but are the Americans and Russians any better in this respect ?
Diplomacy is the key, the world cannot afford another world War, especially given the nuclear weapons which now abound on Earth.

mark manning said...


Gone ni Nalawa said...

Russia is a torn country, that still has not sorted out its identity. It is a nation built up on the brutal subjugation of its serfs by their leaders of old like Peter the Great, Ivan the Terrible. They still have not evolved to a state where they can see the value of justice for all, equality before the law, the notion of promoting the value of fairness.

Hence their recent veto of the UN resolution on Syria (together with China), even though the people were being harshly oppressed. China and Russia are both authoritarian states and could not care two hoots about the welfare of society according to international standards. They support the model where a criminal elite, armed to the teeth, bully and intimidate the citizenry without accountability. That is the type of nations these two countries are.

We in Fiji know our history and the family of nations we have aligned ourselves with. It is the criminal guilt of those few in the illegal junta of Fiji which is striving to have us enmeshed with dark, lawless type countries of the world. But only so that they may escape indictments for their crimes. A good advice is to stay away from Communist China and Russia, as they have very suspect histories and records foreign to our values.

Anonymous said...

@Mark Manning
You need a good serving of ice cream, so you can chill out. Most of us just hope for a return to democracy and that it will stop raining in Fiji soon.

James Shri Krishna said...

The news that Nepal has agreed to replace Fiji rogue soldiers from UN Mission in Iraq is indeed a welcome news.

Khaiyum recently alleged that UN is bias. The regime's illegal activities, corruption and break down of rule of law is now beginning to bite. In next three years, all Fiji's peace keeping will come to an end. We owe it to Kevin Rudd who has out manouvered khaiyum.

Nadro Kid said...

That is wonderfull news about the Nepalese soldiers replacing Fijians as UN Peace Keepers. The Fijian soldiers have shown themselves up to be a corrupt lot and big time lamu-sona. How the Fijians have reacted during the Bainiarama coup has really showned them up as gutless, without passion for the country of Viti. Only interested in harrassing and murdering their own citizens and allowing criminal elements to subvert what they were supposed to be the protectors of. The Fijian chiefs in this episode have also demonstrated that they are an absolutely useless entity. Just a bunch of blood suckers with empty heads, who are prepared to see the country go down the drain. A blogger on this site has coinned the appropriate word for the Fiji army "mataivalu ni soli sona". Hurray for the Nepalese! Now, Fiji can be saved at last from tyranny of the Talibhan's outreach Pacific Programme (TOPP).

Bendover Bai said...

Guys we all know this regime they preach something and they do the opposite.

Anonymous said...

Russia's donation is a drop in the bucket compared with what the Western countries consistently give Fiji for disaster relief, and with much less fanfare. Moscow is donating its money to the Red Cross instead of the PM's Relief Fund, because it knows exactly how mercenary Bainimarama is, down to the last ruble.

Moscow is like a jackal on the prowl, ready to exploit any vulnerability, and it finds Bainimarama's regime an easy mark.

When Lavrov says foreign interests must avoid heated confrontation, he really means that Moscow is in no position yet to help Beijing if it miscalculates in the South China / Western Philippine Sea. Beijing's overly aggressive policies have already alarmed many of its neighbors, driving the Vietnamese closer to the Americans and causing Manila to seek expanded military cooperation with Washington.

Lavrov's claim of a policy of comprehensive development and multilateral diplomatic dialogue in the region means what? The only real development help Moscow has given was to Nauru as a direct pay-off for Yeren's recognition of the Georgian breakaway region of Abkhazia, in defiance of the UN and of nearly every other country in the world.

A Russian-Chinese proposal for a regional security system based on international law sounds pretty oxymoronic based on their previous conduct. It reminds me of a Russian-German regional security system proposed for Poland back in 1939. The last thing Beijing wants is for international law, such as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, to be applied to its territorial claims affecting the Spratly Islands. What Lavrov really means is that Moscow will welcome Chinese port visits to the naval base it plans to build in Vanua Levu.

How can the 'new historic mission' claimed for China's navy or a Russian naval base in Fiji or any challenge to the U.S. Seventh Fleet be seen as helping to ensure regional stability? There is no 'growing sentiment among experts that it is unlikely that China will become a military threat to the U.S.' -- quite the opposite, although the Americans will not dwell publically on the possibility of conflict with China lest it become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Were the sentiment otherwise, why is it that the Americans are circling the wagons?

Beijing's strategic intention is indeed clear, open, and transparent: it wants reunification with Taiwan, by force if necessary; and it wants to intimidate its maritime neighbors into yielding disproportionate influence over the sea lanes stretching to Singapore. U.S. arm sales to Taiwan are not regular, nor are they sufficient to reverse the deteriorating security situation in the Formosa Strait, as Beijing's growimg strength causes it to become ever more bellicose in its demands.

Russia is in Fiji seeking naval access, UN support, fish and mahogany, and as part of Moscow's strategy to strengthen its previously weak ties to Pacific Island countries in the run-up to the APEC summit in Vladivostok. Russia wants to be seen as a player in the Pacific, and it is, but it's really only a bit part.

What hurts Russia's defense industry exports are not just contract negotiations but international sanctions and the fact that their number of client states is dwindling rapidly. As in Syria and numerous other examples, Moscow has no moral compunction about selling arms to governments that turn their military against their own citizens. And it one of the worst proliferators in the world. Moscow isn't as concerned with the balance of power as it is with the balance of payments.

'In an instant, Russia can go from being a stabilizing factor in the Asia Pacific to a destabilizing factor.' Here's a news flash: that instant passed in 1945. Russia has been a destabilizing factor ever since, and it is showing it yet again.

s/ Dakuwaqa

True Crap Story. said...

@ James Shri krishna.

Nepalese soldiers replacing anybody anywhere is not good news -epecially for the countries their deployed to. Their last foray into Haiti resulted in a serious cholera epidemic caused by their lack of sanitary discipline(toilet habits) - polite way of saying they shit anywhere & everywhere.

Anonymous said...

Gone NI Nalawa-yes what you say is party true when it comes to lawlessness the USA might be worse than the Russians. One has just got to dig up the facts & figures on the bombings in Vietmnam & Cambodia to see that there were more bombs dropped on the North Vietnamese than the whole of the World War 2 alone. Now compare that to what the Russians have done?

Radiolucas said...


Not even a fart in the wind for Russia.

So much for the windfall from the North for the Regime. So far there has only been a lot of hot air - all talk, no paisa.

Anonymous said...

Russia don't give a rats arse about Fiji and Bocimarama.

ex army said...

Mark Manning and the mourners of democracy,you are talking crap and Iam fed fed up of reading your rubbish.As a democracy fighter we want to return the country back to the people fullstop.We should be talking about on how we can do it because the people here in Fiji do not understand whats these thieves (IG) are doing and we as the democracy supporters should be talking about how we can get to them.Why cant you sent them millions of pamphelets about the IG rather than wasting your breath here.Check thye phone directory and do it now and stop talking rubbish.

Anonymous said...

Frank has done more for rhe fijian people than any leader ever has. Bloggers get a grip and move on with life. We don't need you in Fiji. You better of in aussie or NZ.

Anonymous said...

Australian Government needs to toughen-up against these Banana republic dicktators, in the South pacific! Possibly the 4th or 5th largest continent in the planet, yet they tred very gently, on these
thugs-why!!!It almost looks as if, they encourage these thugs to exist,so they can ruined their small economies, thus giving Aussie, the power to be the BIG KAHUNGA, this side of the Dateline!
During the 2006 coup, Aussie had 2 or 3 battleships with Helicopters off the coast of Kadavu? They were
asked by the democratic Government in power, for their help in normalizing the Fiji Military forces under the leadership of
Bainimarama-a potential Criminal under investigation by the Fiji Police Forces? The question, is why
didn't they carry-out their given mandate,as per authority of the elected Government, of Fiji,s PM Qarase? Aussie, you need to take the lid in our South-Pacific affairs. You need to be a Ronny Regan of the South Pacific and go after these tiny dicktators and waste them all!

Anonymous said...

You are right bloger @ 2.32pm. The curse on Vore is bringing the flood, at record levels, and our 7s IRB teams are feeling the curse of Vuakayum, and we are not winning any tournament. The win in Gold Coast was just a display of what our game results should be. Since the military are putting their fingers on every pie, they all turn to shit.

Anonymous said...

@ ex army, thats the waty to go,stop the farkin talk on this blog site and action time, away with the fancy words and dumb analysis of what's happening in fiji. we need to walk the talk, not just talk,talk and more waste time talk.

mark manning said...

Ice cream sounds great !
The rain may be a sign from God and a lesson for those who supported the illegal coup which destroyed your Government.
Now people can see that there is no money in the treasury and that there are little to no services to counter disasters etc.
Thank God for the NGO's !
This is not the only site I contribute to and those who know me well, are fully aware that I have contributed many hours in our fight to return Fiji to a democracy, so please don't come here and abuse me when you don't even know anything about me and my efforts I've already made on behalf of fiji and its people.
To those asking for more to be done, why don't you take videos of what's happening around Fiji and upload the to youtube and also share those links with the various social Network sites already established. that's where I get my information, here would be a good start. If you don't know how to do this, then just email coupfourandahalf.com, there contact details are on this page above.
Pamphlets are old fashioned and expensive and you could get caught handing them out, the internet allows everyone to remain anonymous and safe. I'm looking forward to seeing your contribution to returning Fiji to a Democracy. If you have relatives in the Military, tell them they're not welcome in your home, that might make them think twice about supporting the mentally retarded Commander, Frank Bainimarama and to reconsider their own oath to the people of Fiji.
As for China and Russia, we should be considering their point of view and understand that we need dialogue between all Nations. I live in hope that even china will become a democracy within the next 10 years and if it does, then it would be nice to have them working with us, not against us.

ex army said...

Australian,NZ,USA etc Democracy supporters why cant you people on the helm of those organisation organise fund raising etc so that we will be able to get through to the grass root.I have been to Fiji lately and no mention of how these thieves (IG) are stealing from them .Why cant we sent them pamphalets or distribute it to passengers going to Fiji about the fact so that it can be heard by the grass roots.We are talking too much but no action being done.Bai travels a lot why cant a democracy supporters organisation show some form of demonstration or an egg on the head or something similar.I would prefer a left jab on his mouth.

Anonymous said...

is there any food rations provided by voceke to people affected by the recent floods

sa sivia ga na tour macawa nei vuaka..
nanuma ni ka rawarawa na veiliutaki?
liutaki viti sara tiko yacova na gauna o vekaca kina na nomu taurasese

Anonymous said...

@ Anony 9:45am
Your comment is so damn true
Thanks man........

Anonymous said...

Not even a shred of news on the IG flood relief, only the $100 the vei vutusona (FB&AK)gave to the vendors in Rakiraki. IT'S TIME TO CRY FREEDOM,

ex army said...

Mark Maning,
Yes weve been following you around for sometime on some of the democracy blog site which most of us donot have the prevalige in saying whats in our mind about you as some of those administrator in those web site got there green card through their back and thinking that your comments are fair but you are a racists smart as...Sarcastic remarks about Fijians and Indians like "Cindia".Thanks very much coup 4.5 for allowing us in dealing with this racists white supreme and please allow our blog to be read by the general bloggers.MM Try to look behind you:whats happening to our brothers the Abo's.Better wipe your backside before poking your nose into other peoples business.
ex army

Taukei. said...

@ M&M.
Don't let the bastards get you down.

Pointed out numourous times.

You know your hitting nerves when they start launching personal attacks usually laced with racial & foul obscenities. Keep going & don't let them waylay you as this is their primary aim(distraction - take you off tangent).

Your efforts over many years have been noted & are greatly appreciated & please note the majority of these people mentioned above are called Fijians - as no Taukei would behave in such a manner. Vinaka.

Taukei. said...

@ ex army.

Being following you around too - know your work when we see it.

Your definately not Taukei & certainly not ex army.

Chances are your just another faraway Indian shit stirrir.


Anonymous said...

Chinese Government should get out of Fiji and Tibet. The Chinese Government is only perpetuating the Oppression in other Countries, the same oppression that they apply to the people in their own Country. Biggest exporters of Oppression to rest of the World are China. That would be something not to be proud of in the Export Awards.

ex army said...

Im not an Indian and you are part of MM racists colonies.Whats wrong if Iam a Indian?Ni via lotu tiko na Kai Viti me kua na veivaka duiduitaki.Era a moku tale ga na kai dia ena coup qo so we are here as a democracy fighter not on racial shit.Au kai Viti botoboto rau.MM is just a racists pig.