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Sunday, April 15, 2012

Fiji Women's groups want representation at political and constitutional level

Women reps at the Forum. PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Fiji women want a Constitution that requires political parties to have at least 50 percent women candidates and the Constituent Assembly to be 50% women.

They also want an immediate return to democratic and civilian leadership and reject any involvement of the RFMF Land Force Commander in the process of constitution making and electoral reform processes.

Veena Singh Bryar PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Women's group met for the first time since the 2006 coup at a three day Forum to discuss women's participation in the national democratic process.
  
Aquila Yabaki PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Represented were the National Council of Women, FemLINKpacific, Fiji Womens Rights Movement, Na I Soqosoqo Vakarama i Taukei, Citizens Constitutional Forum and women from the community.  


 

One of the concerns raised at the Forum is the lack of consultation and engagement and the tight frame around the constitution making process.


Women at the Forum PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Participants concurred that any process must be legitimate, participatory and inclusive to ensure that the democratic State has popular sovereignty. 
In an Outcomes Statement the Women's groups said they have been isolated and silenced since the December 2006 coup.

They called on the regime to respect the rights of the women, and the people of Fiji. 

"Our voices must be heard. The rights of women must be valued and respected by the State. At every point in our history, at every point in our democratic process, it is imperative that every person in Fiji respects human rights, the rule of law and the dignity of every person as fundamental principles which must be promoted and protected at all times," the Outcomes statement said.


Shamima Ali PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Below is the part of the Women's Forum's Outcomes Statement:

Respect for Human Rights
-  Any new or reformed Constitution must entrench a strong Bill of Rights which builds on the benchmark of freedoms and rights included in the 1997 Constitution of Fiji and integrates international human rights treaties and norms;
-  The State must respect the rights to freedom of expression and freedom of association. If people cannot meet freely and speak without fear, they will be unable to effectively engage in the ongoing democratization process. In this context, it is imperative that the State immediately repeal the Public Order Amendment Decree and all other repressive decrees;

Mere Nailatikau PHOTO: femLINKpacific
Defining the role of the security forces

1.The National Women’s Forum agreed that:
- There should be a return to democratic, civilian leadership as soon as possible;
- The Land Force Commander of the Republic of Fiji Military Forces should not be one of the focal points for constitution making and electoral reform processes;
Participants PHOTO: femLINKpacific
-    -  Civic education and awareness raising for the constitution making processes should not be conducted by any military or police personnel. The people of Fiji must be able to engage with the constitution making process in a free and open environment which allows for debate, disagreement and discussion. If this process is to be meaningful, people must be empowered to reflect openly and honestly on the challenges facing our country, and their ideas on how we can move our country forward; 
-  - There should be no military or police representatives on the proposed Constituent Assembly.
 
Promotion of women’s participation in decision-making and democratisation processes

Priscilla Singh PHOTO: femLINKpacific
1.The National Women’s Forum agreed that:
-  It is imperative that the current democratisation process integrates women’s participation at all levels.
-  Any new or reformed Constitution must integrate temporary special measures to promote 50% women’s political participation at national and local government levels. At a minimum, it must be a requirement that all political parties in Fiji must include 50% women candidates. 

A rights-based, respectful, open and participatory constitution making process
Susana Evening PHOTO: femLINKpacific
-        - Recognising that young people will comprise our largest voting block by 2014, civic education efforts must ensure that young people, the majority of whom have never voted, are particularly supported to engage in these democratization processes;
- The women of Fiji must be involved in developing the terms of reference for the proposed Constituent Assembly. The Constituent Assembly must be comprised of 50% women, from throughout the country, representing diverse constituencies.

63 comments:

  1. Well done, ladies! 

    Fiji does need a strong Bill of Rights. Repeal of the Public Order Amendment Decree is a prerequisite to open political discussion. The RFMF does need to butt out of the process. (Good luck with THAT!)

    Women certainly do deserve and need greater representation, but I have reservations about your use of quotas to achieve that. Similar quotas are being used formally and informally in many governments around the world, but I would advise caution in their use. 

    Quotas tend to violate the principles of liberal democracy, including the principle of equal opportunity for all. Quotas are inherently undemocratic, because voters should be able to elect who they want. Quotas imply the election of some politicians because of their gender, not because of their qualifications.

    For 50 percent of party candidates to be women and for 50 percent of constitutent assembly representatives to be women are two very different propositions.

    I'm not completely against quotas as a mechanism for compensation against barriers in a male-dominated society, but I would respectfully suggest dropping the demand for reserved seats in the assembly and re-state the quota requirement for party candidates in a gender-neutral way, mandating that each gender should have not less than 40 percent and no more than 60.

    Thank you for your courageous leadership, and more power to you!

    s/ Dakuwaqa

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  2. Hypothetical scenario to ponder. If Tony Gates ran for office, against which gender quota should Gates be counted? Male, female, both, or neither?

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  3. Its so sad to see that we have all been made to deviate from the real issue that has brought this country to where it is today. The issues like making a new constitution is unncessary, the reason for the coup has got nothing to do with corrup[tion or flaws in the 1997 constitution or the failure of the Qarase multi-party cabinet (which is the best form of cabinet so far), not the Qoliqoli Bill or the Truth asnd Reconciliation Bill or the early release of jailed government MPs. The country has been brought to the mess it is in today because Bainimartama did not want to go to jail for the death of CRW...FULL STOP. Please let us not forget that and get deviated easily by other reasons that are being presented as reasons for takeopver. We shud therefore retain 1997 constitution as there is nothing wrong with it. Return Qarase's multi-party government to power as there was nothing wrong with it. The only thing that we should do and must never fail to do is to get these goons face the court for what they have done to our country.

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  4. Hmmm I wonder what the Shamimi sisters are planning to do next.

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  5. One Party State
    Ian Simpson, Taveuni

    A One Party State built on the rock of leaders of 10 (sacrosanct), 100, 1,000 with a final 2 leaders of 10K will give us a National Congress of say 450,000 voters / 10k x 2 = 90 seat congress.

    The Governor elected from the Congress. Governor picks his Secretaries of State for defence, Agriculture , Finance, etc from qualified citizens, not from Congress. Central Committee of Congress or committee set up for the purpose vets Secretaries of State.

    The Army - no longer an army but civil defence force trained as such shall swear allegiance to the President of the National Congress who shall occupy Government House.

    Women represent 50% of the population and youth 80% of the population. A One Party State will truly represent this demographic if those within it choose to do so. The rights can only be denied if the choose to delegate them.

    A One Party State will do away with all the fears of disenfranchisement. This may be a threat to all these leaders of NGO's who are perpetually sustained by failures in the systems.
    Lets give the Westminster multi-party system the heave -ho as it has been an abysmal failure for our nation these past 40 years.

    I believe we must build a society that is inclusive, civic minded and responsible. That governance of our small nation must be pragmatic and focused first on our national economic survival and secondly on gainfully employing our people. Efficient delivery of government services is critical to social harmony as non delivery fuels frustration which leads to apathy and non support of structures of order.

    There have been failures of One Party States and incredible successes. There are those who will give examples of failures, such as NK, Burma. Please be academic about your judgements and balance the number of one party state failures against those states that have tried multi-party Westminster system. Top of my head, would 100 to 10 be about right. Can somebody do the maths.
    Start with nearly every state in South America x 2? maybe 3! Then Africa to Asia. A little back and forth in Europe.

    If the leaders of our country , all leaders in society, believe in a multi-party system for Fiji, which translates into political apartheid due to our demographics, then I can only paraphrase “ Houston, we have a problem”

    Please don't anybody confuse the One Party State I am espousing with Socialism. I am not.

    Not as if we are already almost a socialist state when one tallies up state owned business and employment in Fiji.

    Women of Fiji - you are a race apart. Extremely hard working,organized, responsible, thrifty. From throught the homes of Fiji, every morning our children step forth cleanly presented in uniforms ready for school with food in their tummies and lunches in their satchels. Those responsible for this are the backbone of Fiji, for not only children are sent forth but the man of the house.

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  6. Whether you like it or not the military is an important stake holder in all of this and will need to be there in the consultation. Be realistic and idealistic. This is not australia or new zealand. If you don't want to listen to the military they can also turn around and not want to listen to you. They have the power right now and not you women.....so get real.

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  7. Come on Girls. More power to you.
    The massive changes forced on the Fiji people should be made to backfire on the two idiots who think they are going to get away with everything they dicktate.
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    banana & poobum say "I am willing to negotiate and comprimise-privided I get everything I want"
    . . . well, to hell with them.
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    While Fiji is in the "mood" for drastic change, make it count. Push like mad for a cause that will be so far ahead of other nations. Fifty percent women will show the male war mongers and political party animals how stupid their thinking has been.
    Get yourselves organised. Do NOT fear the decrees. Meet whenever you like and dare the idiots to try and stop you . . . make the idiots look even more stupid than they have been so far.
    . . . . Congatulations ladies.
    Don't hesitate. Step up the momentum imediately. Step it up and up. Keep it going.
    HIT THEM HARD. CAMPAIGN-CAMPAIGN.
    LOBBY-LOBBY-LOBBBBBYYYY.
    Go Girls.
    -Sydney Tourist

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  8. The women would bring balance and much more common sense to any government. Go for it ladies.
    You don't have to fear the woman basher. He is a coward. Stand up to them. They will be gone soon, anyway.

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  9. Ian Simpson, the only time I will support your proposal of a one-party state is when we are governed by angels, and I don't mean fallen angels, either.

    Anonymous 2:32 raises good points. Since the April 2009 abrogation was almost certainly illegal, Fiji's 1997 Constitution ought still to be the law of the land. Nor can the Constitution be validly changed by an unlawful government. The people never expressed their will that it be changed through a fair plebescite or any other mechanism, and such a poll cannot be held in Fiji so long as the RFMF is in political control.  

    So, should we even be discussing changes to the Constitution at this stage? Should we even be discussing a Bill of Rights, much less a one-party state? Shouldn't we defer all such discussion until the day Fijians control their own destiny?

    If Qarase-Chaudhry combine to provide a united front, we should look to them to provide tactical guidance on these questions. I personally think they should cling stubbornly to the positions that: an illegal government can neither abrogate the Constitution nor lead a valid process for the adoption of a new constitution; the Constitution (not the People's Charter or regime decrees) is the supreme law of the land; and the GCC is constitutionally sanctioned and cannot be abolished through extraconstitutional means.  They can offer as a concession the idea that a constitutional convention with a genuinely inclusive and transparent process for consultation should be convoked as one of the first orders of business by a lawfully elected parliament. 

    We should make it clear now that Fiji will repudiate any and all debts illegally incurred by Bainimarama's regime. 

    We should call for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to be established to look into the actions leading to and committed during Fiji's coups, beginning with Rabuka's.

    To the regime's list of 'non-negotiables' must be added the non-negotiable requirement that the RFMF return to the barracks by the end of the year and abandon all claims to any future political role in Fiji. 

    Bainimarama will never stand for this.  He's never been sincere. He never plans to relinquish power. The people of Fiji will need to wrest it from him. So, when (not if) he shows he will not negotiate with our leaders in good faith, we should back our leaders' call to boycott the process and prepare to wage hopefully nonviolent resistance.

    A Qarase-Chaudhry front can only serve as a temporary palliative to help Fijians organize and meet the challenges of life during the Bainimarama Captivity, the coming Hibiscus Revolution, and the first year of the reconstruction period beyond. After that brief period, both men should give an accounting to the T&R Commission themselves before being cleared to hold office again.

    s/ Dakuwaqa

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  10. What 50%, you must be kidding.. no way..work your own way in like everybody else, and stop this demands..Did they setup the men's crisis center yet??

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  11. Dream on!
    Army will NOT relinquish power as they have tasted power and absolute power corrupts.

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  12. Dakuwaqa

    The only problem with your proposal is that it is untenable under the circumstances.

    You either go along with this regime or start protesting with the aim of forcing them out of office.

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  13. Founding member Mens Crisis CentreApril 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    agree with Mike @5.41. Virisila and Sharon are simply grandstanding again. Missing that extra attention in the media and trying to justify on going funding for their NGOs. You want 50% , work for it, and justify why. We all know how you girls hog all the overseas travel in your relative organisations. How about giving at least 50% of that to the other women in your relative organisations? Seems like every one wants to jump onto the gravy train to fund their hippy lifestyle.

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  14. Be gender sensitive, ladies and stop demanding...you are again starting to fly your arrogance flag.

    The majority of men have done nothing wrong to you, have quietly listened to your tirade in pre-coup days yet now when things are starting to get better, you have decided to continue on your old arrogant ways.

    Haven't you learnt your lessons from the nasty experiences of 2006 - 2007

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  15. I cant get the logic Fiji has been run by females since 1987, 2000, 2009 but prior to this it was male dominated and we had progress and peace with the normal disagreements.Since the ladies came into picture things have been different.DO THIS CAUSE I SAY SO well known by the ladies in Delai- Nabua LOL

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  16. HELLO LADIES,

    You are contradicting that military has no role for constitution review.

    And then supporting a review when the review process is already OVER in 2004 or 2005.

    Do you support illegal activity on one hand but if it benefits you then it is o.k. to support and take part in an unlawful process where it is military, Aiaz or anyone for that matter.

    Follow the LAW as GCC had said and maintained. Question is when did the politicians follow the LAW and how do you agree to it?

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  17. Hullow! Who has the powers now? Is it the military or this wannabe women? The military is now a stakeholder in Fiji's affairs whether you like it or not. It's not the first to happen around the world. Look at Malaysia, Turkey, China, Pakistan to name a few. Get real women.

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  18. Ian Simpson to
    S/Dakuwaqa

    Lets put it to the Angels, let them have a choice via referendum.

    Lets see if people who espouse Democracy can recognise it if it poked them in the eye.
    Pretty hard thing to do cause the eyes of the "interlectuals" go into swift shifty mode.
    Leaders of 10, right out of the Bible, enough to set people off in fits.

    Anyway, we will all watch this farce playout as our Nation goes begging bowl in hand for money to pay for our sovereign right to vote.
    Yes some 30+ million dollars will be blown in a short orgasmic feel good at democracy and back to the same o same o.

    Leadership in Fiji seems to range from Narcissistic to Sociopathic.

    This is the legacy of the Independence generation to the future of Fiji.

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  19. Really this is just a waiste of your time ladies. what ever you put forward or recomend for change it will never happen. try to invest your time on your kid's and grand children in teaching them the right and wrong of today..please...

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  20. One woman sold our Human Rights to the devil,to satisfy her egotestical dream.
    Yes Shameem, you know who I'm talking about.
    There are some good women and there are some evil women too. eg Shameem sisters.

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  21. Well done ladies! Show these men who are spineless what real courage is. Show them that if you are speaking the truth, you need not fear the guns or Frank and Khaiyum.

    You are doing a great job making your just demands in which you are trying to re-claim your rights!

    These men will only talk but do nothing except criticize whatever is being done to get back our freedom and rights! Useless bunch of shits!

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  22. Before any review get the army staff carrying out government work returned ASAP to the army barracks.

    Let VB be charged for the CRW murders...WE have not forgotten!!As much as they try to legitimise themselves, we will never forget the killings of the CRW victims!!

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  23. It seems the women are teaching the men how to fight this regime and get back political, economical and social freedom!

    Just see the demands by the Women's Group and the various letters by the Marama Roko Tui Dreketi!

    What are the men of Fiji doing? Seating and criticizing what the women are trying to do.

    Yavu tamata macawa these men. Especially those living within the military camps compound!

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  24. Its good that women want to have 50% of political influence.
    No one is stopping you from doing that. ( apart from this Illegal Military govt)
    Mere Samisoni is a great example of a woman who has achieved much in politics and things were not handed to her on a plate.
    I think it will be interesting to get her view and see wether men are interfering with women's aspiration in politics.

    There are of course women who when elevated to a position of power decided to kick us when we were down. e.g. Dr Shaista Shameem - Director Fiji Human Rights Commision.
    How sad.

    My only other point The Fiji Army Motto is : Dina Dodonu kei na Savasava.
    In short this is translated : Do the right thing at all times.

    The RIGHT thing is The 1997 Constitution lives and can only be changed by The Parliament , which was voted in by the people.

    The RIGHT thing for you soldiers to do is to return the government immediately back to the people.

    I'm amazed that 3000 soldiers can be hoodwinked by one man.

    Kemuni na sotia, sa vakaisini kemuni o Bainimarama.
    Ni tucake, in kitaka na ka e dina dodonu kei na savasava.
    Ni vesuki koya qori.
    Ni solia lesu tale na matanitu vei ira na lewe ni vanua.

    -Valataka na Dina.

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  25. I salute you ladies for what you've proposed. But why instead of promoting these in a new constituion rally support behind retention of 1997 constitution and have the propositions incorporated in an ammendment excercise of the same. What you're calling for here is making you play directly into the hands of these goons. We must never support the making of a new constitution, its unnecessary and a waste of time. there is nothing wrong with the 1997 document.

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  26. dina says...

    well done women group in Fiji..

    but where is the mens group....

    you see this is the one of the biggest problem we have in our country...men still busy drinking grog and least worried about returning Fiji to democratic rule.

    men are still planning who should we chop next so I can grab his Job.. OR grab his wife etc etc etc.

    men can we wake up now and form our own groups to pressure Frank and illegal regime to go back to barracks and let the people decide og whom to lead our country.

    This new constitution is bull shit - all it is intended is to have a immunity clause for Frank, Shameems, Aiyaz, Gates, Nailatikau's etc to escape Naboro.

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  27. So you want 50 per cent of everything gals? Whatever. Because the evidence is that nothing will change even if you get what you want. The fact is women are no better than men when it comes to sheer self interest. Take the case of Ro Teimumu in Fiji or Julia Gillard in Australia. As conniving as any of their menfolk and possibly a lot more dangerous. So spare us the baloney. Look at you all sitting there under your fancy posters living off the donations from your NGO patrons overseas. A total waste of space. Dua tale na Fiji Gold. And make sure it's a cold one.

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  28. Sleepless in SuvaApril 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    Waqadaku, Dakuwaqa already concedes that the military will never accept his proposed demands. His proposal is to look to a unity ticket to provide the leadership for organizing nonviolent resistance.

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  29. Dakuwaqa...I'm with you, as far as
    the quotas of 50% advocated by the women folks of Fiji? Not a good idea it's the kind of racial discrimination, Bai want us to get out from? I mean if we allow this 50% representations, than why not allow 50% to the Itaukei as well? Than we're back at our old Communal electrol system once again? Why don't we ask Professor Ghai, as to what kind of Electrol system he favour for our small Island state?
    Once he tells us, than we'd be able to tell him, what we think would be wise, to includes in his draft? I mean we could be dragging the cart with the horse, tied at the back? Bai hasn't said what kind of an electrol system he favours,we could be in for a very big disappointment or shock,when and or if Bai pulls one of his bullshit tricks; and claimed that he wasn't thinking right, about the year of election as 2014 since he was thinking 2020??? Can you imagine? No one will come to our aids to spank his ass? They'll probably tugged their tails behind their ass and run back home humilliated?

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  30. its about time GO GIRLS GO,what now bai sonalevu

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  31. Hahahaha, who gave you that authority to decide? Dream on ladies...

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  32. What power and authority do these women yield? Cat Power........bahahaha

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  33. While many would appreciate the women's concerns, let us not forget that our country has a constitution and there is no need to formulate another one. The 1997 has provisions for all sections of our society to be represented and be heard.Women's organisations, youths, communities, civil society organisations etc. ect., should therefore remind this illegal regime not to waste time and money on another constitution, as we do not need one, nor want another one.
    Let all players play by the same rules, and enter through the right door to leadership positions, and not sneaking in, then changing the rules in seeking exit paths.
    The 1997 constituion provides for this fair representation, justice and fair play, and claerly states what has to be done to individuals who do not comply. Period.

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  34. Wow! Wow! While all this is very encouraging and promising ladies - one thing we need to realise is that while we are still under stiff Military rule, it would be wise to tread cautiously...take a step at a time!!

    I would think that the ONLY action you need to COLLECTIVELY take right now is to, as you quite rightly stated, DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RETURN TO DEMOCRACTIC AND CIVILIAN LEADERSHIP!!!

    The rest of the powerful ideologies automatically falls into place once Phase I has been accomplished.

    Good luck to you all as your intentions are excellent. In this day and age, we definitely need brains, intelligent and wise working alongside men and IF WOMEN ARE PROVEN TO BE THE BACKBONE OF SOCIETY what they are requesting undoubtedly is for the betterment of FIJI.
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    'The Role of women in the development of society is of utmost importance. In fact, it is the only thing that determines whether a society is strong and harmonious, or otherwise. Women are the backbone of society.' 'Sri Sri Ravi Shankar , Founder

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  35. @ 2.32pm.

    Isnt it indeed shocking that we are all deviating from what we, as a people, are supposed to be doing for justice and the truth FOR THE SAKE OF THIS NATION??

    Amazing how easily led we are to dance to the tune of the military goons - get distracted, get busy, get involved in having a voice in the governance of our country.

    Meanwhile, without intending to, we assist the Military's clever strategic plans to CONCEAL & DESTROY ONCE AND FOR ALL every likely effort, every likely thought by any one individual/s to DO THE OBVIOUS RIGHT THING and that is TO BRING THESE GUILTY MEN TO JUSTICE FOR THE GRAVE CRIMES THEY HAVE COMMITTED AND TO WHICH THEY MUST FACE TRIAL!!!

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  36. good to see the chardonnay sipping socialists trying to get into some political jockeying. no 50% automatic allocation in my view. can you imagine the sameem sisters, shamima, buadromo, digitaki all in parliament. no one will be able to get a word in. have some dignity ladies - dont ask for preferential treatment. go out and earn the peoples trust and get their votes. that is what DEMOCRACY is about.

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  37. 50% for women? Get real ladies! If you ask me, numbers don't really matter. What really makes the difference is to have your heart and mind in the right place. In the final analysis, that is what matters most when it comes to the crunch, not whether you are a woman or not!

    By the way, men (enlightened ones that is) can make even stronger/better advocates for a fairer home and society than women STUCK at both extremes who lack the patience,understanding and wisdom to bring about sustainable progressive changes!

    So, I dont think the issue is whether you are a woman or not but rather whether you appreciate the importance of women's role and their contribution. Truth be told, women (a good %) themselves dont and are themselves obstacles to progressive changes.

    So, as I said before, the issue is not maths and gender/sex but rather the quality of individuals ... an enlightened man makes a better advocate than an unenlightened woman. Unless we can absolutely guarantee that all of the 50% (of women candidates) will be themselves progressive/enlightened, this call for 50% is just a waste of time and energy as in the end, it will be 'same old same old'...

    Just my thoughts ladies...

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  38. What is the drunkard pastor and regime lackey Yabaki from CCF doing at the Womens Forum - it all is falling into place - he got Yash Ghai and that South African woman Christina Murray to draft a new Constitution - and our women have fallen for into his net - Murray claims to be specializing in gender equality

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  39. Blame the director for human rights when you have nothing to contribute towards a more equitable Fiji. She was conned into believing that this coup was towards an equal society only to be led down the garden path. Shamima and imrana and buadromo are people from the racist regimes of the past . Buadromo's father /uncle(colonels Buadromo )took part in 1987 coup and she did not protest then. Shamima's cousin Ballu was right up Qarase's arse and imrana's husband was part of the planners who took out Mahen chaudry.Hello engage your brains before typing !!!

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  40. Close to the ThroneApril 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    The sexism and aggro coming across reflects the ugly male violence ruling Fiji at present. The consitutional talks are for everyone and our womens groups have a right to advocate for the 49 per cent of voting population.

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  41. What's the pisshead Yabaki doing there? It's a womens forum, unless he's had a sex change. I can only say he's there to spy for Voceke and Aiyarse.

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  42. If Yabaki is a spy for the regime then I'm a monkey's uncle. They can't stand him. Anyway lay off the poor bloke. A lifetime in the methodist church would drive anyone to drink.

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  43. You women ought to try weaving baskets or cooking curry like other women in Fiji, not forcing everyone to put up with your silly elitist ideas. Then you'd really know what it's like for ordinary people. Positions on anything should be on merit not on quotas set by privileged women getting fat on international salaries. If a woman wants to make it anywhere nowadays, she can. Look at Ro Kepa. She might have inherited her title but she's a better fighter than any man at the present time!

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  44. @ Anon 11.59am

    '...a women's forum...' is in itself part of the problem not solution don't you think?

    If we have more men (Rev Yabaki being one) actively participating in the discourse, that's half the battle won!

    Not much will ever be achieved by exclusivity - yet everything can be attained through inclusiveness. That by the way works for any scenario - religion, culture, race, social, class, gender - whatever!

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  45. So what's Yabaki then, a drunk spy or a spying drunk?

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  46. If these women are asking for preferential treatment then it's a no no. You get elected on merit, unless you're Voceke and Aiyarse who want to be appointed unelected.

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  47. GIRLS GIRLS INTELLIGENT GIRLS...

    Leaders DO NOT go out asking to unlawfuly amend the constitution.

    You go and support no chnage to the constitution and do not participate in it and DO NOT give credibility to the process.

    What YOU DO is form a political party of your own. It takes only 200 voters signature and that is within your membership so you don't need to go searching people.

    In that Party have 50% put as your own constitution ... but please stop bastarising the 1997 constitution.

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  48. Fiji will become a big brothel, if this is implemented.

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  49. Myabe the womens group should form their own party - I would certainly support them. Perhaps the better combo would be Women and Youth.

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  50. PS What a bunch of three-headed males giving their two cents worth here - go back to the caves, boys. Looks like modern world too much for your big egos

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  51. Lady GoGo, experienced three male heads before have you? My my you naughty woman.

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  52. Virisila and Sharon... if you take 50% and the menfolk take 50%, whats left for the others like Tony Gates, lewis wickham, and all the others who are gender-undecided??? But seriously, ladies get real. This is simply another form of discrimination...merit should be the basis of everything, not gender, race, religion, colour, etc.

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  53. I agree. Yabaki's not a spy. He's just a dupe.

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  54. Ladies, concentrate on restoring democracy and prosecuting treason first, because 50 percent of nothing is all you'll end up with otherwise.

    Ian Simpson, what single-party system ever got that way through referendum? Can you name a single example? They mostly arise because one party succeeded in the armed seizure of power, and they mostly persist because once in power, the party leaders become corrupt and can't give up their power for fear of retribution. Sort of like Fiji today, if the Bainivore has his way.

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  55. And who's Akuila trying to dupe? The ladies?

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  56. Hahaha if implemented it would make Fiji a brothel.....hahahaha

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  57. Fiji is already a brothel, except most of the whores are in the RFMF and journalism, or working out of Angel Club, by special arrangement between the regime and their Chinese pimps.

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  58. Fiji already IS a brothel. Virtually everyone in the RFMF or journalism is prostituting himself or herself for this regime. And then there is Angel Club, flourishing by special arrangement between the traitor in chief and the pimps in China.

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  59. @April 15, 5.41pm
    Men's Crisis Centre has been around for years aka Defence Club!

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  60. Men! It seems that women are declaring war on you based on what I am reading here, especially the sexist comments against men...

    It is best to read, think and prepare yourselves. Imagine what and how it would be like to give these women 50% of everything?

    First we have to determine whether the women make up 50% of the population...second we have to determine the percentage of women by ethnicity / race...third we have to determine the percentage of women by ethnicity and with completed first degree. Those with first degree I think are preferable.

    As you go deeper trying to determine the 50% by ethnicity by educational level so only the deserving are considered...no more wannabees.

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  61. @1.02pm
    Ian Simpson response:

    No country has introduced One Party State by referendum, true.
    but it also true that we are a Nation that has had 4+ coups and 3 constitutions, and unless there is another take over between and the next elections there will a 4 th constitution.
    Without referendum will this new Constitution ever be morally legal?

    If we are going to have a referendum, then what are our choices?
    I believe a One Party State is a valid choice. More democractic , more participation, more ownership by all our people.

    As for examples of one party states. Try Japan, Singapore, India among others, that have been given a choice between parties have for the past 60 years have overwhelmingly voted for the same party. Now that is pragmatic people at work.

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  62. And Ian Simpson,you could add several more countries to the list of well-known single-party states, such as Taiwan, Mexico, Liberia, etc., except that most--including most of those you named--have moved away from single-party systems in favor of two- or multi-party systems.

    Why? Because they found that corruption tends to flourish in a single-party system, and, without competition, the ruling party tends to become authoritarian, undemocratic and unresponsive. But don't just take my word for it. Ask any non-Marxist political scientist or historian.

    And I'm leaving out of the discussion the likes of communist dictatorships like North Korea, Cuba, China, Laos, and Vietnam. You don't want Fiji to become a communist dictatorship, correct?

    If not, then I just don't get it. Why your obsession with turning Fiji into a one-party state? And why would you think that a normally democratic, multi-cultural country like Fiji would ever voluntarily opt for such a system, when such systems mainly exist only because they were forced on societies at gunpoint?

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  63. Ian Simpson response to 4.54pm

    The reality of Politics in our communities.
    1. Immediate apartheid
    2. Except for voting day, 98% of the populace does not play any active part in political parties.
    3. Once every 5 years there is a few hours spent determining a candidate based on different manifestos
    4. Of the 2% half are eleminated at the polls.
    5. Of the 1% who are voted in and remain active as part of the winning party, do not play much further roll in seriuos decission making. Even the Party caucus has little further input. Backbenchers, are literary that, backbenchers.
    The decisions within cabinet are also further concentrated in 3 or 4 hands.
    6. The elite have no need to participate in the political process.
    They simply walk in the door of the PM. They only have contempt for the political process.
    7. The present system discourages honest people in the community to participate. They are bystanders in an activity that we so dearly need for them to be committed.
    8.I have never suggested that a permenant One Party State. A referendum after a suitable period of time say 8-12 years must be incorporated.
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