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Wednesday, May 2, 2012

McCully: regime will be held to its assertions of fair and open processes

Murray McCully and Bob Carr at today's stand up. 


The Ministerial Contact Group has wrapped up its visit with the chair, New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully, saying it was short but useful.

McCully says the regime has assured the group elections are on the way along with the public consultation process for a new constitution.

He says the acting prime minister Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum and several officials have also assured them the process will be inclusive, fair and open. 





McCully says it was a 'very worthwhile visit because we haven't had one to Suva in three years and it has been useful to talk to people on the ground.'

"We have had an exhausted series of discussions with the people involved in the administration, critics of the administration and what we have tried to install in the space of one day. 

"This visit is a snapshot of where things are today and to take account of the old statements made about where things will be in a few months." 


McCully says the group will continue to keep an eye on developments and will want to be satisfied the regime follows through with its assertions.

He says that expectation has been written into its  communique.


THIRD VISIT OF THE FORUM MINISTERIAL CONTACT GROUP (MCG) ON FIJI

1st May 2012

1. The Pacific Islands Forum Ministerial Contact Group (MCG) concluded its visit to Fiji today.

2. The MCG thanked Fiji for making officials available for meetings. The MCG considered the exchanges and briefing useful for bringing them up to date on developments in Fiji.

3. The MCG also met with Fijian politicians and representatives of civil society and unions, and welcomed their perspectives which have contributed to the MCG’s understanding of the situation in Fiji. Written submissions were also received.

4. Ministers said they were encouraged by the steps taken by Fiji on election planning, as well as by information provided about Fiji’s intentions. These gave Ministers a sense that Fiji was a country in transition, moving to put in place processes required for elections. In particular, the MCG welcomed assurances from Fiji that:

The process under way will lead to elections by September 2014;
The constitutional consultation process will be open to all;
There will be no media restrictions in relation to the constitutional consultation process;
The elections will be free and fair;
There will be no parliamentary seats reserved for the military.


5. The public consultation process leading to the establishment of a new constitution will be closely observed by the international community. The interim Acting Prime Minister and several officials have asserted it will be inclusive, fair and open. The MCG believes the process must be accompanied by freedom of association, freedom of speech and freedom for media. This would allow Ministers to consider recommending to Leaders that incremental steps be taken to allow Fiji to participate in some Forum meetings.

6. Ministers reaffirmed Forum Leaders’ long standing offer to support Fiji’s early return to parliamentary democracy, including through the provision of appropriate assistance, consistent with the Forum’s underlying principles and values for respect for democracy, good governance and the rule of law.

7. The MCG will provide a report to Forum Leaders in the coming weeks on the positive progress Fiji has made and the further important steps they believe are required. Based on their continuing engagement, the MCG Ministers will provide a further update to Leaders at the time of their meeting in Rarotonga.

8. Ministers affirm the Forum’s intention to remain engaged and look forward to further progress in Fiji and continued constructive dialogue with Fiji.

9. Participants in the MCG visit were Hon. Murray McCully, Minister of Foreign Affairs of New Zealand, Senator the Hon. Bob Carr, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Australia, Hon. Ano Pala, Minister for Foreign Affairs and Immigration of Papua New Guinea, Hon. Fiame Naomi Mata’afa, Minister of Justice of Samoa, Hon. Apisai Ielemia, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Trade, Tourism, Environment and Labour of Tuvalu and Hon. Alfred Carlot, Minister of Foreign Affairs.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Who's the clown smiling at the back?

Anonymous said...

Need to keep in mind that all the things the MCG are asking for are all things that Fiji had once, but which were taken away without any credible reason.

Now after many years in the socio-economic dog-house, we in Fiji can see that the lack of credible reasons in 2006 (and onwards) has been followed by lack of credible or worthwhile developments in Fiji whatsoever.

So we need to keep any hope we might have about this process in the perspective that what we are getting back is what is ours by right, anyway. And the reason we lost it in the first place is sweet bugger-all!

Thanks for nothing, Frank & Aiyaz!!

Anonymous said...

The rat kaiyum obviously has not heard what he wanted to hear and so pre-empts rejection of his lies by rubbishing the MCG.

However will he and kubuabola stop the voreqe from spitting and shitting on the MCG on his return as is his wont??

How long does one keep suspending disbelief McCully & Carr??

So once again the people of Fiji are requested to believe what the illegal military regime SAY and not what they DO?

Anonymous said...

Once again we hear about what they will do in the future. How about asking why what they said they will do in the past hasn't happened? We talk about the future too much. We need action now not in 2 or 4 years. Nothing will be left. It will take generations to reverse this rape. Learn to say "NO"

Anonymous said...

The idiot bainivoco can't even blurb a complete sentence and has run away to india just to avoid the real and true leadership of the pacific,bainivoco intention going to india is to kerekere finacial aid from the indian government,even with that intention this mad man even tell the fiji student studying in india under the ICCR scholarship which is provided by india government,that is, his government will subsidize their allowance without any proper channel consulting any government official about the student non sense grievance,it is clear that he is mentally sick,just a few student with their pathetic grievance has seen bainivoco true lack of leadership skills,if this student opt for this scholarship they should bare with what even means comes across because the indian government is not fool like this interim government,they are issuing allowance with respect to the normal standard of living in india,if you can bare the part and parcel of student life,go to the village then and teitei na tavioka you fool,Indian Goverment Rocks !!

Anonymous said...

ask is a liar like his puppets frank/mosese.
mcully/carr shouldnt trust this idiots.
what happen to promised election in march 2009 .liars.
uphold 1997 constitution -liar
uphold the court ruling april 2009-liar.
army wont benefit-liar.
LIARS LIARS LIARS
DONT TRUST THESE FIJIAN REGIME /ILLEGAL GOVT.
DISMANTLE THE ARMIES THAN THE COUP WILL STOP.

Anonymous said...

fiji armies have put fiji to shame.
we dont need fiji armies anymore.
they are rotten and coup makers.
carr/mcully should just sent some sas /marines to fiji to bomb army barrack.
fijian had enough of shit from these thugs .
enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

I congratulate the PIF MCG for what appears to be a very worthwhile visit. No longer laboured with Kevin Rudd's personal ambition, the visit occurred, and it seemed to realise its mission objectives of fact-finding and establishing firm understandings on the way ahead for Fiji. 

Countrymen, don't be misled by the temperate communiqué into thinking that the MCG is at all mistaken about the nature of the regime. This is just a step in the diplomatic process of laying down red-lines for Bainimarama's future behaviour. Rest assured the ministers did not mince words in their private discussions. 

When the regime breaks its promises, again, it will also be a personal affront to the ministers of the MCG and a breach of 'trust' of the governments they represent. This will help galvanise them into stiffer action against the regime.

The manners by which the regime will break this understanding are various, but it will probably come down to a matter of definitions. What really constitutes a constitutional process 'open to all'? If the regime allows wide input but is selective in its attention to only those it favours, is that a process open to all? Whose definition of 'free and fair' will apply to the elections? Would the proscription against reserved parliamentary seats for the military apply to a scenario where military personnel form their own political party and are allotted leave from active duty by the RFMF in order to run for office? 

The MCG understands this. Future visits would clarify some of these matters, giving regime snakes less wiggle room. So, we should encourage such visits, because engagement is not necessarily about appeasement; more often it is about taking the war to the enemy.

s/ Dakuwaqa

Anonymous said...

what happen wanna be illegal pm taliban .
good on you mcully/carr put this idiot on the spot.
they are free kanaloto regime.
if you want to be ministers/mp go fight the election dont coup legal govt.
no one will vote this idiots.
keep eating from the tax payers money.
one day you guys will end up like gadaffi.

Anonymous said...

mosese is another idiot dancing on ask tune.
ramsi to be sent to fiji than we see fiji armies will make the cassava dash like it boso lamusona bai.

Anonymous said...

frank was blaming sdl for having criminal/coup plotters in its govt.
i ask frank to ans us.
why he have father coups kububola/bole,/jim akoy/khaiyum in his govt.coup plotters like him.
liar and corn artist frank/ask .

Anonymous said...

frank was blaming sdl for having criminal/coup plotters in its govt.
i ask frank to ans us.
why he have father coups kububola/bole,/jim akoy/khaiyum in his govt.coup plotters like him.
liar and corn artist frank/ask .

Anonymous said...

i thought the meeting was only for the foreign ministers and why should the PM attend.

Anonymous said...

DINA SAYS...

AGAIN AND AGAIN WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARED LIES AND LIES AND LIES.
AIYAZ AND FRANK AND MOSESE TIKOIYOGA AND CRONIES ARE ALL LIARS.
THESE PEOPLE i CAN BET MY LAST DOLLAR WILL RENAGE ON THEIR COMMITMENT.
THEY CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED, THEY ARE NOT THERE FOR FIJI BUT FOR THEMSELVES AND WILL DO EVERTHING WITH HELP PF GATES, NAZ SHAMEEM AND OTHERS TO STAY IN POWER TO AVOID GOING TO PRISON.

BUT THANSK TO LQ, MPC, BEDDOES AND UNIONS AND NGO'S FOR MEETING WITH OUR FRIENDS OF DEMOCRACY AND SPEAKING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHATS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND HERE IN FIJI.
WE ARE REALLY EXHAUSTED AND FED UP WITH DICTATORIAL LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE LOST ALL OUR FREEDOM AND PARADISE.

LAW - HOW CAN IT BE SAME FOR ALL FIJI CITIZENS. SOME ILLEGAL REGIME COUP MAKERS, MURDERED AND GOT 6 MONTHS JAIL WITH FULL PAY, SOLDIERS THAT KILLED RABAKA AND VEREBASAGA STILL WALKING AROUND THE STREETS, SPENT 8 DAYS IN PRISON AND RELEASED, FRANK BAINIMARAMA PAID HIMSLF $271,000 BACK PAY FOR ANNUAL LEAVE, HIM AND AIYAZ RECEIVING ALL BUT MANY MINISTERIAL SALARIES, NEPOTISM THRIVING.
COMPARE THIS WITH OFFENCES LIKE FNPF CEO...MISMATCH SOMEWHERE.

AIYAZ, TIME TO CLEAN YOUR MIND AND TEETH FOR MANY STINKY LIES.

I AM SEEING WHAT I NEVER USE TO SEE BEFORE, I AM STRUGGLING TO SEND MY KIDS TO SCHOOL AND I HAVE NEVER WORKED SO HARD IN MY LIFE, WORSE OFF, NEVER KNOW WHEN I WILL BE SEND HOME BY MY EMPLOYER IF THEY KNOW I AM ANTI-ILLEGAL REGIME.

Anonymous said...

Groups' visit and its effort to assist Fiji is an exercise in futility. Once chief goon arrives back, he'll start spitting and shitting on NZ and Aust like he's been doing before. We must not forget that this idiot is a prisoner on the run. He will never give up power easily if he's going to end up in Naboro after that so he will find ways and means of staying in power until a solid immunity is in place. His ministerial colleagues like Aiyarse and Kububola also like status quo to remain so they can continue to keep their jobs and make money.

Fijiana said...

Anon @ 10:37

Meeting was not for foreign ministers but rather for Governments of Melanesian countries as the name suggests. Now let me tell you in a very simple term. If you are expecting guests at your house, you just don't get up and leave, or do you?

Do you understand?

Anonymous said...

Green light to ongoing coup d'etats.

Don't like whats going on at Veiuto, do a coup d'etat and justify it by saying that the Constitution needs to be changed and a new reforms implemented.

Don't fancy the idea of being charged for ordering 5 murders in 2000, especially as the investigations are near complete and your neck is on the line, do a coup d'etat and blame the situation at Veiuto and the inadequate 1997 Constitution.

Anonymous said...

Well, here's another possible sign that the Regime might be turning over a new leaf :-

Notice how we haven't seen any military ghost-writers on any of the Freedom Blogs lately making silly and illogical pysops faux-quips supporting the regime, despite all its failures, or attacking Qarase/Chaudhry/Beddoes/Anthony/Singh for relatively-speaking, minor mistakes/failures/flaws in comparison to the Regime's huge mistakes/failures/flaws.

Anonymous said...

all comes down to for now that is<<baini n kyum's motto is ALL FOR ME AND NOTHING FOR YOU...look around where is all the money going to!! in their pocket... look at FNPF and all your tax money...they not been used in any way to provd or build better roads etc...

LETS HAVE A BETTER FIJI FOR OUR GRADCHILDREN PLEASE A CRY CRY FROM THE HEART.......

Anonymous said...

The question is,when will these ministers of Foreign affairs recommend to the South Pacific Forum to activate the letter of the Biketewa accord? I mean its nice to bring together members of the South Pacific States, once a year, in order to discussed our security,economic,Governance and
cultural protections of our small nations? But when and or if a state
security is been threatened,the member states of the Forum, should at least come together and sent in their own forces in order to normalized the threat? Here we are 6 years later,and only after the Fiji PM had promised election in 2014, that the Australian and New Zealand Governments hang back their balls, to send in their two dough boys to come by and rattled Bais cages! No Buddy, we the people of Fiji, needed more than a one day visit?We need you to give us an assurance that a democratic election MUST be held at the allocated date? Without which the Forum will step in and conducted a
democratically election under the 1997 constitution & the SDL government as the interim Government of Fiji.

Anonymous said...

So were we expecting more from the contact group? What a waste of time? Frank will carry on as if this lot didn't come to Fiji it simply appears that the contact group has run out of ideas on how and what to do with Fiji? Am i wrong?

Anonymous said...

WHAT HAPPEN TO DEMOCRACY IS A FOREIGN FLOWER? YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. MALEKA

Anonymous said...

The regime has run rings around Bob Carr and Murray McCully. If they do not keep to their promises (which they will not)what will the contact group do? Nothing!!

Anonymous said...

Sorry - spoke too soon!

Just spotted a couple of faux goon comments now! Anyway, at least they aren't trying to over-load the whole comments page with artificial comments like they once used to try.

Anonymous said...

Possible Carr and McCully may have been too easily impressed.

Sudden Siouxie said...

Anon@4.35pm Trick is to keep blogging and drown them out. We bloggers sometime withdraw instead of knocking them back as people did with Graham Davis and his attacks on Ro Kepa. You guys notice that those goons always come on C4.5 and stir shit yet very few freedom bloggers go on the pro-regime sites! Not that you'd get printed on them there pages anyway.

Anonymous said...

NARCISSIST KAIYUM!

Anonymous said...

welll....looks like kayum does not like wat he has dished out to others being dished out to him. shame on him if he thinks he is PM or any ministirial posn. he has demonstrated that he is 'crap' not fro the gutter but from somewhere else that no one knows about. maybe the Muslim commuinty can enlighten us on this?

Anonymous said...

Aiyazz is not entitled to anything under the fiji government..he is a terrorist..took this country by force and doesnt represent anyone cause he is illegal and will always be illegal..now he has bought some new property at Vunakece road..the citizens of fiji demand an explanation..mr .khaiyum..did you buy this property from stolen money from the fiji treasury??..You and your master Bainimarama are a bunch of crooks..you thief..

Anonymous said...

I note lots of comments and it sounds like the big mouth Rajesh who promised to give his MP pay to the poor but kept it. He is the same guy who back stabbed LQ. He is thew same guy who joined Sports council after 2006.

Now, let me tell you that the reason Carr and McCully are here is b'cos of USA forcing them as they fear China, cuba and russia will make inroads. A few weeks ago Carr said he is not coming to Fiji and then he is here.

Politics is politics. U see MPC was minister of Finance in this govt and now he wants to sleep with LQ but will not part A$3m.

Read the statement by the Group, its generally positive despite their negative commets.

Anonymous said...

True, the stunned mullet look probably is not one Peter Lomas would ever allow to be published of Aiyaz in his Fiji Sun.

Anonymous said...

Aid and trade sanctions would do the trick if iArse and his pet pig fail to go through with election in 2014.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:28

Thats true. If nothing else, this MCG statement has given legitimacy to the Bainimarama road map to winning the 2014 elections.

The MCG has endorsed the process, which is also the ultimate endorsement of its credibility and of the integrity of the Bainimarama regime in that regard.

Aiyaz does not realise that his up is half full. He has achieved an endorsement for the reform process, which in itself is recognition of its credibility.

That is worth its weight on gold because it improves the reputational capital of the Bainimarama government, something which has been very poor todate

Anonymous said...

After Olata roko prison sentance, I see MPC, LQ and having a short stint at Korovou. No other govt would have put bhika and mac motibhai behind bars.

What will this mean. It means that LQ and MPC will not be eligible to stand in the election.

Also why didn't FNPF pension rate for the last 15 years. Its because the people at the top and govt were more interested in their own self interest and pension and not for the masses. If the top enjoy the benefit what will be left for the poor. The poor must understand that the reform is good for the poor but not so good for the rich.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 6:48 AM, very wishful thinking on your part, but not the case at all. The MCG has not endorsed the Roadmap, much less legitimised the regime; indeed, nothing the MCG says or does could make this regime legitimate. The MCG does little more than take cognizance of regime assurances and lays down markers for 'expected' behaviour, when what it really expects is for the regime to renege as always. Nice try.

Anonymous said...

The most effective way to get fiji back to democratic goverment as quickly as possible is through the people of fiji telling Vore and ArseKaiyum that they want election as sson as possible. Saying nothing is telling them evrything is ok. The pressure must come from the people. They must condem what is going on in the strongest possible way.

Anonymous said...

Very easy, members of the Ministerial Contact Group, the second the regime steps out of line, from what you have laid down after listening to all submissions. SANCTIONS! Freeze their accounts, stop all flights and ships from any Forum Country port including the MSG bush bunnies. Then we will see their much touted tourism revival fail and see just how many tourists India and China send to fill the gaps left by Oz and NZ visitors.

Anonymous said...

Fool them once, shame on Illegal Military Regime; fool them twice, shame on Foreign Ministers, but fool them three times makes Australia and New Zealand look like Suckers and Idiots. There will be NO Free and Fair Elections in 2014. IF there is an Election in Fiji, it will be Rigged. The Illegal Military Regime cannot lose Power because it will have Consequences that they will not Survive.

Anonymous said...

If the regime loses power there will be another coup and inevitably foreign military intervention. I guess that is going to happen and I can see no way out of it.