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Thursday, July 5, 2012

Chief magistrate does u-turn after regime interferes in Karunaratne decision

Usaia Ratuvili
More proof today that Fiji's judiciary is compromised and that decisions are being steered by the illegal government.

Fiji's chief magistrate Usaia Ratuvili yesterday ruled in favour of Jagath Karunaratne's application for his bail to be reviewed. Just a day later, he has done a U-turn succumbing to challenge and pressure from the DPP.

Ratuvili (pictured right) ruled in the Suva Magistrates Court yesterday that Karunaratne's passport should be released to him so he can travel to Sri Lanka to attend to important family business, setting a $5000 cash bond and surety and a return date of July 20.

Coupfourpointfive police sources say in court today though, regime prosecutors continued to block the bail review, claiming Ratuvili erred in law in making the decision.

Fiji's Chief Magistrate has now suspended his own decision until the DPP gets an order from the High Court.


Karunaratne, a New Zealand citizen, is accused along with four others of writing anti-Bainimarama graffiti but the regime has been trying to also pin conspiracy against the government on him, despite not having enough evidence.

Sources say Ratuvili conceded to Christopher Pryde's prosecutors even though the state had yet to secure an order as its request was only verbal.

The proper procedure is for DPP to submit its motion as an application for the court to consider - Karunaratne's lawyer, Rajendra Chaudhry, then responds. Ratavuli chose instead to accept the verbal request and grant the regime's wish. 

If the DPP fails to get an order from the High Court, Ratavuli will make his original ruling on Monday. 

Coupfourpointfive understands two military officers were in court for the proceedings.

This is a case Fiji should be watching because it shows the regime is unafraid to interfere in decisions that have been handed down by judges it supposedly appointed on merit. And it is doing it openly, making an ass of the justice system and its judges.

73 comments:

  1. corrupted judiciaryJuly 5, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Under the junta groupies gates and pryde the Fiji judiciary has been totally corrupted.

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  2. So now the Fiji Police Service is Judge, Jury and executioner ? !
    I'm not sure if that's a statement or a question ! ?

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  3. Ratuvili's reason for accepting magistrate appointment was that he had a family to look after. He will compromise his oath as well because of that.

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  4. The prosecution has every right to file a stay order in the High Court against the magistrates decision,,,i don't see anything wrong with that

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  5. Good work Ratuvili, always look out for your behind...kiss ass where it is due... That's how you survive..fark that brave dies young shyte...

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  6. So the Chief Magistrate doesn't know the law according to DPP, eh? Why the hell is he chief magistrate then??

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  7. Fiji have Khaiyum/Pryde law now.
    Fiji judicial system is controlled by khaiyum and frank now.
    Look at all other cases kahiyum father in-law Bill Gavoka was discharged and priest still facing the same charge.-Why?
    where is justice pryde you talked about last week-liar.
    We will not expect any good from fiji court system now.
    one word to describe it is -Corrupt System .
    Rajesh

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  8. Siti turned a lion on LQ.
    Siti was fhl ceo and was jointly charge with lq.
    now he became state witness for ficac. siti liumuri.

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  9. Pryde is liar palangi like his bosses Khaiyum/Frank.
    Fiji need to clean the whole court /police/army/prison/govt boards. .
    we never can trust any of this people appointed by Khaiyum/frank.
    Pryde and cronies should be all charged for treason with his bosses.
    Fiji is a army state now.

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  10. Why the army officers were in court.
    Army was there to scare Ratavuli.
    pryde liar just said last week people will get fair trial/justice -liar mf.
    Same on fiji judges/magistrates/lawyers.
    They all should resign than regime will fall.
    But it wont happen they sold the legal oath for money.

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  11. Anon@12.08AM. That is wrong and you're wrong too. The order was verbal and it did not go through the proper channels. Mate stop being an idiot and wanting to be a wannabe bush lawyer. It clearly shows that there is no judiciary in coup lala land.

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  12. I hope we dont see same judgment in pm lq case.
    Fiji judges and magistrate are controlled by Khaiyum/Franks army.
    So now its prove army/kahiyum/dpp all work as a team to frame and put people behind bars.
    This proves frank/khaiyum have stop y p reddy file and been paid. corrupt regime.
    People will never get fair trial in fiji court under the regime.
    God help clean up this corrupt judges/regime .
    people are suffering.

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  13. Too much at stake for them to allow Jag to go to Sri Lanka!

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  14. I told you you so yesterday on this story that Fiji will see the might and power of Khaiyum while the Mataivalu Ni Solisona remain in their slumber.

    They will do anything the King of Fiji and Vunivalu of Bau, Sir Khaiyum orders them to do even shoot their own families if directed to because they are in a trance of the Mighty Khaiyum.

    The Cakobau family are wasting their time meeting as their appointment if it will ever be made will be token as all their subjects and people of Fiji bow only to Sir Khaiyum.

    There is ONLY ONE and ONLY ONE Tui Viti and he is not a I -Taukei -hahaha.

    Good on you Sir Khaiyum as you are putting your thesis into practice without raising one finger or any violence against the the dumb arses who make up the Fiji Military.

    And dumb arse VB claims he should have done this in 2001 - he would be in Naboro now with George Speight without the brains of Sir Khaiyum -so much for all that mucho talk by the tavioka patch sprinting record holder.

    Vutusona ga- Kemundou na tamata boci, kaisibokola, ulukau, tamata solicici -Mataivalu Ni Solisona.

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  15. Anonymous 8:46AM; July 6 2012: you have no right and authority to call anyone "Sir" because that is the Queen of Britain's prerogative; HRH Queen Elizabeth II is the only one who has all the rights and authority to bestow this prestigious and honourable Title on individuals who have made remarkable and distinguished efforts in the propagation of justice and other honourable achievements seen fit for this Award. What has the arsehole Aiyaz done for our country to be given a Title?

    If you wish to decorate this illegitimate arsehole, you may give him an itaukei Title but that has to go through proper itaukei protocol.

    Otherwise he is just an ordinary Fijian of Indian decent but out of common courtesy and humility you may call him "Mr"; I call him Aiyaz.

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  16. Now what this idiot pryde have to say that justice will be given.
    Liar we hate you bastards.
    Fijian army been used against its own vanua/family/lotu
    Khaiyum and cronies milking tax payers dollars and fijian army supporting the illegal regime.
    How can this guys pray as family hypocrite.
    what message and example they setting for their family.
    justice is not served in fiji but bought.
    Rajesh

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  17. " independent" judiciary in post coup Fiji! "independent" media in post coup Fiji. " independent" civil service, police and army in post coup Fiji. everything "independent" in post coup Fiji and everything DEPENDENT on the diktats of the ruling mob!! Fiji : The way it is and will now be for a heck of a long time ...

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  18. NO JUSTICE IN FIJI COURT.
    KHAIYUM AND FRANK YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIARS AND SHOULD BE CHARGED FOR TREASON.
    WHEN OUR LAWYERS WILL HAVE GUTS TO BOYCOTT THE COURT SYSTEM AND REGIME.
    WHO WILL BECOME FIJI HERO TO FREE FIJIAN FROM KHAIYUM/FRANK BONDAGE.
    MOSESE /JONE YOU HAVE TO TO GET RID FRANK/KHAIYUM. IF YOU LOVE YOUR GOD/COUNTRY.
    IF NOT YOU SHOULD RESIGN BEC YOU HAVE NO ETHIC .
    GOD WILL ONLY USE THE WEAK TO CONFOUND THE LEARNED AND STRONG.
    JONE/MOSESE YOU HAVE CHANGE TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT FOR FIJIS FUTURE .

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  19. Fiji good friends with Russia. Fiji follow Russia style court proceedings. outcome of cases determined/pre-determined by the political mob in power!! court officials - including magistrates and wig wearing judges - all one phone call away from their political masters and they do the " simon says" thing!!

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  20. how many people will register for voting.its seems it will be 60,000 if you look at the trend.
    10% people only.
    this shows people dont support khaiyum/baini.

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  21. C'mon Ratuvili lets see what you made of and stand your ground against these bunch of corrupt people who said that the judiciary is independent. Don't worry about the lions they will be shut up when this regime throws you in because of what you independently decide. Don't retreat righteousness and justice will shut up the lions...instead watch those who try to interfere get thrown in the lions den and no one will shut the lion jaws then...they will be torn to pieces even before they hit the ground.

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  22. Can some just remove the cowards Kaiyum and Bai out of the office. What is Fiji waiting for? Kick these two dirty asses out of the office.

    Kaiyum the terrorist, exactly who do you think you are. You are acting as if you ass father owns the country. The truth of the matter is that you a) don't own the country, b) the people if Fiji have not elected you to be their leader and c) you will never be the future PM of Fiji because your dirty Muslim terrorist ass will be kicked so hard soon that you will regret every day of your illegal ruling of this country.

    Now, watch you dirty ass being kicked you asshole. I'm coming around tonight to chop you head up.

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  23. Looks like Aiyaz just jerked Ratuvili's leash.

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  24. Boy, this guy has balls man, big ones it seems. No wonder Sri Lanka has people willing to kill themselves for their cause. We need these kind of guys here in Fiji...go man go....fight

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  25. anon@7.45am,you are a one sided thinking asshole...remove your blinkers and see the wider picture...This Govt is doing a better job than any previous govt.I fully support PM Bainimarama.

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  26. we should admire Jagath for the fight he is putting with this regime.....god bless him and his family......when 99% lamusonas at least one there to fight

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  27. Anon@8:46am...Man you are one mad macafaka!But was there any doubt
    that the Military is in control?What the frieken hell do you want and expect to be done, before you
    can take action?Look here pal,no one is going to come in and do your
    job for you? If you want democracy
    then its your job to go out and demand it? It aint going to come to you, you,ll have to go out and
    bring it on!!!Military is not going
    to give up their power, if you're
    all going to take their scarry tactics without shooting back,at
    someone,something or some asseole?
    Try it, shoot at Khaiyum and see what they,ll do or shoot Bainimarama and see if he'd start running, good indication of what,ll
    happens when the cracks of 10 or more gun is heard throughout our
    once innocent nation???

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  28. This is not a new thing C4.5 Fiji judiciary is being controlled by Khaiyum since he took over AG job. Telephone calls are made directly to judges handling cases of interesta from Delainabua and from AG and they are dictated upon as how the case should end. Whne will the international community wake up to the mess in Fiji. The Police, Judiciary are both corrupt and work in favour of Khaiyum and Bai.

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  29. Can't pick on the Magistrate for merely only showing the character traits of his alma mater.

    Sitiveni Rabuka
    Inoke Kubuabola
    Taniela Veitata
    Apisai Tora
    Laisenia Qarase

    Magistrate is only one of the many in that long line of alumni.

    Floreat Viti....

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  30. I am overwhelmed by the rising opposition to this government. The current political crisis seems to have been a blessing in disguise as it has unified the major ethnicity. It shows how everyone loves the country they call home together and their concern for their children's future as the present regime is taking this country nowhere but merely draggimg it down the gutters day in and day out. Remain united everyone, this surely is not a matter of racde but of civility and good order.

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  31. One message that has come out clear from political developments happening in the last two decades is that the army should no longer have a place in modern Fiji.

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  32. To anon who said " I fully support PM Bainimarama". Every dictator has loyal supporters like you. But remember your support for the dictator is no guarantee for the dictator's hold on power. A time will come - for sure - when the dictator will lose power and might even be forced to flee - as has happened often enough. where will you be then with your "full support" anon ? by his side?

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  33. 'Fiji's authorities hesitant about in-depth investigation in rule of law'

    5 July 2012

    Fiji’s authorities hesitant about in-depth investigation into rule of law, says Law Society

    The Law Society of England and Wales has today reiterated its concerns about the lack of transparency in the legal system of Fiji, following the failure of Fijian authorities to respond to the Law Society’s offer to participate in an international delegation to the country.

    The Law Society's offer comes after Fiji's Director of Public Prosecutions, Christopher Pryde, invited the Chair of the Law Society Charity to return to Fiji "to get a more balanced picture of the Fiji legal system", as reported by Radio New Zealand International (7 March 2012).

    The Chair of the Charity Nigel Dodds interviewed lawyers, former judges and prosecutors on a private visit to Fiji in November 2011 and found that there was no rule of law, no freedom of expression and that the independence of the judiciary could not be relied upon. Dodds by-passed a strict blockade on monitoring visits of the situation in the country, which had seen representatives of the United Nations and the International Bar Association refused entry.

    Dodds' findings were published in the Law Society Charity's report 'Fiji - The Rule of Law Lost' early this year and accepted by the Law Society in a resolution passed by its governing Council on 17 May 2012.

    The Law Society has now taken up the issue where the Charity left off, with Law Society President John Wotton responding to Pryde's invitation on the 21 May 2012. The Law Society has yet to receive a response.

    Law Society President John Wotton said: "Action, or in this case inaction, speaks louder than words, and so it seems as though the Fijian authorities were not serious in their invitation. Far from it; they appear hesitant in accepting our offer of an in-depth investigation into transparency and the rule of law in the country."

    "We remain willing to participate in a delegation to Fiji to carry out a more in-depth investigation, provided that the invitation is extended to include other prominent international organisations, including the International Bar Association."

    "The Law Society is also willing to facilitate dialogue, contacts and technical assistance, with the ultimate aim of building Fijian justice institutions so that everyone in Fiji can have confidence in them to provide effective justice solutions."

    Ex C4.5 Facebook

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  34. @ Anonymous 11:20 AM

    ""how many people will register for voting.its seems it will be 60,000 if you look at the trend.
    10% people only"".

    Not really sure how these figures represent a lack of support or otherwise for the present goverment.

    If they have no support people would want to vote to get them out. If they have support people would want to vote to keep them in.

    Seem to recall an article from some acedemic a while ago that stated you only need a 5% sample to get an accurate poll indication.

    Interesting...........

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  35. The fiji judiciary is corrupt.

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  36. That was an immature judgement,any tom dick and harry could realise that the Sri Lankan would not be coming back to Fiji to attend trial. I just dont know why they are selecting young inexperienced lawyers as magistrates.

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  37. Actually the experienced lawyers have left for greener pastures..good trend as USP is churning more lawyers to no available jobs!! Just like Air Pacific..Flying school churning out pilots but no jobs available..so overall..all good!!

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  38. Ha!Ha!Ha! Ratuvili had better start looking for a new job!! Memu sici Boy!!
    When oh when are people going to make 'head or tail' of all this ILLEGAL grandstanding and charade? How gullible can people, who are supposedly 'educated' be?
    I just honestly give up!!

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  39. The presence of two military officers in court was on the orders of the Commander. He likes to intimidate and scare people, the bloody COWARD!! A SURE INDICATION OF INSECURITY!!

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  40. I agree that with the evidence of Siti, LQ is caught between a rock and hard surface.

    Rajesh

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  41. I am amazed at this hostitlity against judges and AG today - we always had crap and corrupt judges after 1987, just because they were fijians doesnt mean that they were any good. From rabuka to Shammim , all corrupt.Fiji neeeds outside assistance here - non Fijians - afterall, this is the same country that made RAJESH CHOR SINGH,MAHEN MONEY CHAUDARY AND JAI RAM RAPist POLITICIANS.

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  42. How many of the army have registered?

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  43. Look here buddy, don't complain to me if you want solution to the
    current problem then show me how
    we could devise a way out? Should
    we get rid of these assoles by just
    marching through out every cities,towns and villages, or via the-rat-tat-tat-of a machine guns?
    i'm through with hearing the goddamn whinning about,they did these and they did that, bull-shit?
    I'm ready for some make sense "lets
    shoot down that asseole bastards
    reality stuff! Every time you take out one than we would be close to our freedom.

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  44. Has arsehole and bani registered? Apparently not yet.

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  45. Any plans for how wiill expats register?

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  46. Fijians overseas urged to register

    08:58 Today

    Taken from/By:
    Report by: Elenoa Turagaiviu

    Government wants all Fijians living abroad to register so they can also have a say in the next elections.

    Elections Minister Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum says when Fiji nationals living abroad come over – they should not hesitate to register at any of the voter registration centres.

    Sayed-Khaiyum says they are working on a system to ensure that locals abroad get registered by 2013.

    After this 1st phase – we are looking at developing a process or system of registering them in their country of residence at the moment. That has not been finalised yet. But most definitely there is an administrative and indeed political will and desire to have them registered.

    Sayed-Khaiyum says once the system is finalised – Fiji citizens living offshore will be notified.

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  47. The truth about FHL
    by navosavakadua on July 5, 2012

    A blogger on Coup 4.5 reprinted a blog from 2011 by another blogger, Corruption Fighter, refuting an allegation by Thakur Ranjit Singh about Fijian Holdings Limited.

    According to TRS, a loan of $20 million had been made by the Qarase Government to Fijian Holdings Limited, but Corruption Fighter quoted facts from the FHL Annual Report proving the loan had been to the Fijian Affairs Board to buy shares in FHL. It was this loan that was turned into equity for the FAB. There was no grant of money to FHL.

    Another blogger on Coup Four and Half then asked “why FAB advisors et al did not advise the 14 provinces to buy the CLASS A shares so that they could obtain a much higher return on their dividends which could have paid off their $20million loan?”

    Yet another blogger on Coup Four and a Half asked “Who owns class A shares in FHL apart from siti Lq and naisoro tiros?”

    Yesterday a blogger on Fiji Today claimed Qarase “accumulated thousands of dollars of dividends which rightly should have gone to ordinary fijians”.

    The answer to these questions can also be found in the FHL Annual Report. Provincial Councils do own very substantial share in FHL. They bought them when the shares were issued. Cakaudrove has the biggest parcel, but Tailevu, Bua, Macuata and six or more Tikinas have plenty . Some Cooperatives own shares, including Cicia Plantation Co-Op Soc, with which LQ is allegedly associated, but Tailevu Dairy Farmers Coop also has substantial shares.

    The number of shares depends on the amount each Provine, Tikina or Co-op was willing and able to invest in addition to the 50,000 shares each Provincial Council contributed at the outset.

    Individuals also invested, utilising their personal savings and/or funds borrowed. If FHL had not done so well, they could have lost the lot. Their funds, along with the funds contributed by Provinces, Tikinas and Co-ops, helped to build FHL into the strong company it is today.

    The decision to open FHL to investment by private individuals was not made by a Qarase government. It was a decision of the Fijian Affairs Board and the Great Council of Chiefs in 1991. This was confirmed by Bainimarama himself in an address he gave to the opening of the FHL Silver Jubilee celebrations in 2009.

    These are all facts readily available on the public record, but it seems they have to compete with the notorious coconut wireless.

    Slander and libel have flourished over the years in an environment of ignorance. Nothing holds back Fijian involvement in business more than veiqati. Any Fijian who succeeds is subject to ignorant gossip like that which political opponents have thrown at Laisenia Qarase.

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  48. We don't need FLP
    We don't need SDL

    We don't need NFP
    We don't need LQ, MPC, Mick, rajesh.

    We need fresh blood who r for fiji and not for self.

    We need people like narube, richard, G Leoung,

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  49. Violence has no place in Fiji
    by navosavakadua on July 6, 2012

    Crosbie Walsh has raised the important issue of violence on his blog. He thinks that people posting comments on Coup Four and Half Blogsite urging violence are a reflection on the site. Like many others I’m convinced that the comments urging violence are made by regime mischief makers. You don’t need to worry about these people because they discredit themselves.

    Violence has no place in Fiji. Coups are by their nature violent, even when they’re so-called ‘bloodless’, but that doesn’t mean violence is needed to oppose them. Quite the opposite.

    If Indo-Fijians, who had been the victims of the 1987 coup, had responded with violence, we would not have been able to get to the position of changing the 1990 constitution through the ballot-box. We should all be proud that we did manage to reform the blatantly unbalanced electoral system through elections under the system itself.

    Now that certain segments of the Fijian (iTaukei in regime speak) are being victimised by this regime it’s not hard to understand that some feel an urge to resort to violence, but this would be the biggest mistake they could make.

    The Methodist church, which is bearing its victimisation with dignity and patience, knowing that with time truth will set them free, should be our model.

    This regime will eventually be undone by its lies. It was founded on a lie and it has tried to maintain its grip on power by feeding the public lies. Lies about the reasons for the coup and the need for an Interim Government. Lies about the state of, the economy and government finances. Lies about what they doing to provide basic services of water supply, roads and health.

    The truth will set us free.

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  50. I laugh at people posting comment and using my name c4.5.
    Why cant they use their name.
    I have said before i will only take part in politics under 1997 constitution and april court ruling.
    If the party or people need me than.
    I dont like to force myself like the regime and others do.to be in politics.
    I stand my ground.
    people can say anything about me and leaders like Hon PM LQ/Hon Pm MPC./Other MP.
    If you want to be in politics you have to have thick skin .
    so blogger you can keep barking like a dog you cant put good people down.
    PS if you have info i am chor pls give it to c4.5 and why didnt the regime charged me if i was a crook .also i have sent document to c4.5 my tax clearance,salary slip/others for info.hahaha.
    God bless you my friends.
    Rajesh Singh.

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  51. Ratu Jone / Graham already change side.
    now they with regime.
    Go ask them .

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  52. Read my lips SIR KHAIYUM is in total control of Fiji and the Mataivalu Ni Solisona and all indegenous Fijians can do nothing about it because they are under his absolute power and total control.

    I Taukei Protocol my arse - What protocol was followed when Sir Khaiyum ordered VB to get rid of the GCC - Not a whimper from the so called Chiefs, VB himself or their people's.

    This recommendation is clearly outlined in his thesis that he is now implementing without any fear as he has no opposition at all from within the Mataivalu ni Solisona itself or from the people of Fiji.

    I'm loving this just seeing Sir Khaiyum snap his fingers and watching the dumb arse Mataivalu Ni Solisona falling over themselves to implement his commands.

    Sir Khaiyum is the one and only true Tui Viti and Vunivalu of Bau & will go down in history as the Greatest Warrior and hero of Fiji and there is nothing the Queen of England, All the Chiefs of Fiji and their peoples or the dumb arse Mataivalu Ni Solisona can do about it.

    The Mataivalu Ni Solisona now regard Sir Khaiyum as a greater hero than Labalaba who died in Oman in 1972 for saving Fiji from corruption and bankruptcy.

    Military Sources tell me that Col. Aziz is now spearheading moves to use money from the regimental fund to erect a statue of Sir Khaiyum at QEB and other Military & naval establishments so the Mataivalu Ni Solisona can kiss his feet and bow to him in their soon to become daily parades every morning.

    VB will also soon be arrested under his orders and sent to Naboro with Naivalurua to join George Speight (LQ & MPC will join them soon after their convictions) to eliminate any opposition to Sir Khaiyum - Long live the real Tui Viti and King of Fiji.

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  53. The Judiciary in Fiji has not been compromised, Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum just tells the Judges and Magistrates who to convict !
    There is freedom of speech in Fiji, speech has always been free !
    There is no corruption in Frank Bainimarama's Regime, it just appears that way when we get bribed and are paid a handsome Commission from the Chinese Banks and Lenders.

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  54. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEeqAgbCMwg&feature=fvwrel

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  55. I deeply appreciate Navosavakadua's advocacy for non-violence, especially as the mood in Suva has indeed turned increasingly ugly, as reflected by comments on this and other blogsites. 

    I believe the reasons for this are mostly threefold: first, Khaiyum's threat to close Fiji TV epitomised the tyranny, egotism, arbitrariness, avarice, and duplicity of the regime. Khaiyum did well to pull back from the brink, because he would have been the first to be tossed into the abyss.

    Second, the regime's decision to proceed with its politically-motivated prosecution of Qarase, despite his problems securing competent counsel, is galling to many, and not only to SDL members. Even those who don't particularly support Qarase rankle at the hypocrisy and injustice of Fiji's lawfully-elected prime minister in the docket to answer ambiguous corruption allegations laid by a pack of arrogant traitors and thieves. They know it foreshadows the regime's conviction of Qarase in order to render him ineligible to run for election, and they sense a wider scheme afoot to dismantle the SDL.

    Third, the do-nothing, say-nothing approach Yash Ghai is taking to regime provocations against the opposition and to its unilateral and weighted structuring of the constitution and election processes is confirming to many the insincerity of these exercises. The growing sense of futility, manifest in the plaintive comments to C4.5, naturally give rise to alternative strategies for achieving social change, including violent revolution.

    I've often mentioned the potential for violence but advocate nonviolent approaches because I do not wish harm on anyone. Long-term attitudinal change is better achieved through suasion, not coercion.

    That much having been said, I also fully agree with many of the Church Fathers throughout history in the right, and even the duty, to revolution in resistance to tyranny. Nonviolent approaches should be tried and re-tried, but if these strategies fail, then tyrannicide must be an option. 

    As Juan de Mariana wrote in the 1598 work De rege et regis institutione, '[B]oth the philosophers and theologians agree, that the prince who seizes the state with force and arms, and with no legal right, no public, civic approval, may be killed by anyone and deprived of his life...'

    As Cato put it: 'Against any man using unlawful force, every man has a right to use force'.

    Regime supporters cry foul over every opposition threat, but ignore the fact that the regime daily uses violence to prop up its coercive rule.  Regime supporters would prefer to see Bainimarama enjoy his treasonous monopoly on violence. 

    I will continue to exhaust every peaceful avenue. But until Fiji again has lawful government, I will not shrink from my duty to defend my country. 

    s/ Dakuwaqa

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  56. Anonymous said...

    I deeply appreciate Navosavakadua's advocacy for non-violence, especially as the mood in Suva has indeed turned increasingly ugly, as reflected by comments on this and other blogsites.

    I believe the reasons for this are mostly threefold: first, Khaiyum's threat to close Fiji TV epitomised the tyranny, egotism, arbitrariness, avarice, and duplicity of the regime. Khaiyum did well to pull back from the brink, because he would have been the first to be tossed into the abyss.

    Second, the regime's decision to proceed with its politically-motivated prosecution of Qarase, despite his problems securing competent counsel, is galling to many, and not only to SDL members. Even those who don't particularly support Qarase rankle at the hypocrisy and injustice of Fiji's lawfully-elected prime minister in the docket to answer ambiguous corruption allegations laid by a pack of arrogant traitors and thieves. They know it foreshadows the regime's conviction of Qarase in order to render him ineligible to run for election, and they sense a wider scheme afoot to dismantle the SDL.

    Third, the do-nothing, say-nothing approach Yash Ghai is taking to regime provocations against the opposition and to its unilateral and weighted structuring of the constitution and election processes is confirming to many the insincerity of these exercises. The growing sense of futility, manifest in the plaintive comments to C4.5, naturally give rise to alternative strategies for achieving social change, including violent revolution.

    I've often mentioned the potential for violence but advocate nonviolent approaches because I do not wish harm on anyone. Long-term attitudinal change is better achieved through suasion, not coercion.

    That much having been said, I also fully agree with many of the Church Fathers throughout history in the right, and even the duty, to revolution in resistance to tyranny. Nonviolent approaches should be tried and re-tried, but if these strategies fail, then tyrannicide must be an option.

    As Juan de Mariana wrote in the 1598 work De rege et regis institutione, '[B]oth the philosophers and theologians agree, that the prince who seizes the state with force and arms, and with no legal right, no public, civic approval, may be killed by anyone and deprived of his life...'

    As Cato put it: 'Against any man using unlawful force, every man has a right to use force'.

    Regime supporters cry foul over every opposition threat, but ignore the fact that the regime daily uses violence to prop up its coercive rule. Regime supporters would prefer to see Bainimarama enjoy his treasonous monopoly on violence.

    I will continue to exhaust every peaceful avenue. But until Fiji again has lawful government, I will not shrink from my duty to defend my country.

    s/ Dakuwaqa
    July 7, 2012 4:08 PM

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  57. Human beings, cannot and will not, be suppressed for ever and perhaps this is one of the things which defines us from animals.
    Under those circumstances, inevitably, there will come a time where they will descent.
    To date, Fijians have been incredibly restrained under the circumstances and I'm surprised that it's taken this long to react.
    The Regime has now reached its end because Fijians are going to revolt en masse anytime now.
    Time for Frank, Aiyaz and Co. to consider and prepare their exit strategy.
    Bring out the Band :-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHsx1cvACkY

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  58. No dictatorial regime/ millitary junta in the history of known civilisation has lost its grip on power other than by mass civil disobedience, insurrection and/or civil war.

    It remains true today.

    Burma went through mass civil disobidience and unrest. Thailand went through mass civil disobedience and unrest which came near to civil war. Libya went through civil war. Syria is now going through civil war. Iraq went through war. India under the British Raj went through mass civil disobedience and violent unrest. Chilie went through mass unrest. Panama went through mass unrest. Rumania went through mass unrest. Poland went through mass unrest. And the list goes on.

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  59. Why are we arguing?
    There is No Violence here.
    If justice is executed, That is not Violence.
    That is is justice taking its course.
    If God throws people in Hell because they don't believe Him, That is not Violence.
    That is Justice taking it's course.

    If people choose to commit Treason then they must face the Judgement that comes with it.
    THAT IS NOT VIOLENCE.
    THAT IS JUSTICE taking its course!

    So I say hang the bastards in Rt Sukuna Park.
    All those that committed Treason must be hanged. Justice demands it!
    Those on my list are Bainimarama, Khaiyum,Shameem, Gates, Sharon etc etc

    I volunteer to put the rope on their necks myself and pull it if no one else wants to.

    -Valataka na Dina.

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  60. Dictators Get the Deaths They Deserve

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/qaddafi-and-the-lives-of-tyrants.html

    Warning: Contains graphic content

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  61. Wow-Valataka na dina-you're getting
    totally wacko,what changes? Did someone wacked you over the head with a saucepan-or what? Lately,you've been calling for killing of people,
    hanging of citizens,you've actually inciting people to violence and call it justice? What changes?
    Are you tired of our citizens trying to talks thing out? Is talk not enough
    as a weapon against tyranny? Must we get violent in order to gain justice? What changes? But you're
    been making much sense with your
    posting!

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  62. @Anonymous 12:38
    I'm not advocating Violence. I'm advocating Justice.
    Justice merely means "appropriate punishment" for breaking the Law.

    If you drive through a red light you are breaking the Law and must accept the punishment that comes with it ( eg a fine)
    If you overspeed then you quietly pay the fine.
    If you assault someone then the Law demands that you get appropriate punishment.
    If you do a Coup, that is Treason. That is breaking the Law.
    The appropriate punishment is Hanging.
    That is all I'm calling for. JUSTICE!
    I'm not calling for Violence. I'm just calling for the Law to be followed.

    In our particular case Evil men have taken our Country by force and hold us to ransom at the point of a gun.

    They have clearly broken the Law

    Therefore they must recieve the punishment due to them ie Hanging.

    It is obvious that those whom we entrust to uphold the Law for us have let us down really badly
    ie The Army, The Police and The Judiciary.

    Therefore it is imperative that we the people rise up against these CRIMINALS and restore the LAW.

    -Valataka na Dina.

    (You try smoking Marijuana in Singapore and see what thappens to you.
    In Singapore if you are caught with illicit drugs, the punishment is DEATH.
    No one says its violent.
    The people know that it is their Law and if you break the Law you pay the price).

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  63. did the chief magistrate make a u-turn or did he do a bb-turn.bendover backwards for his political handlers?

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  64. Rajesh had the guts to write to frank and ask him to resign.
    Did any mp wrote to frank like Rajesh-No.
    So people if you dont like rajesh/others its your choice.

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  65. This Chief Magistrate was the lead legal researcher on Shaista Shameem's Fiji Human Rights Commission. Remember that Report from her saying the coup was legal - this rascal had a hand in that drafting, and that is why he got the job as Chief Magistrate - kaisi bokola!

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  66. Well wouldn't you know,the regime
    has finally showing major cracks in
    their economy! The PWD had fired over 500 of their employees, now the Health Department are going to
    do the same to 580 members of their
    staff-whose next? Look,they do not have the money to pay these people!
    Last week, the Chief Justice-asseole Gates, swear in 150 new Justice of the Peace and he was telling these poor buggers that they can't complaint about their un-paid position.
    Is this a new plan to
    have these guys replaced the Magistrate posts and maybe some judges as well? Hey money,s not flowing-in? Too much demands from
    China&India for interest payments of their last loans? PRESSURE,PRESSURE,PRESSURE!

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  67. @ anonymous kaisi bokola! 10.47p.m.

    I do not believe for a second that Ratuvili had a hand in writing that toilet paper supporting the 2006 coup.

    Unless you can prove it, pliz direct your frustrations at Bai/Aiyaz and all their tin soldiers.

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  68. KAISI BOKOLA..... Ratuvili is like everyone else who helped to correct the WRONG just like the FHRC did but were not aware of the hidden agenda of the 3 powerful people hiding behind the curtains during the coup.Remember Andrew Hughes talked about the shady figures behind the coup. The shady figures did not make themselves public till after the abrogation in 2009. The rest of the helpers genuinely thought they were ousting Adolf Hitler.

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  69. RPC is an arrogant prick who beleives shouting in court or as a matter of fact using emotions will overule the system. That is not how it works. You got to be smarter than these ass's running the system now.
    RPC is a womaniser...his latest victim is the US Citizen client (young female who he got out on bail and is seen everywhere with her these days), he should be charged for having affairs with his clients.....
    No wonder his wife has left him.
    This guy has no family values. And a man who cannot keep his family intact will never have others interests at heart, except his own.

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  70. Valataka na dina, you're all-rite!
    i'm with you on the justice aspect,but if & when we do bring
    these asseole down, could we count
    on you to come and pulled the noose? Could we do the hanging at
    Sukuna park? Why not Albert Park?

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  71. @Anonymous 1:41
    Of course, God-willing I'll be there. Like I said I'll put the bloody rope around their necks myself.

    I'll also give the opportunity to the mothers of Malasebe, Rabaka and Verebasaga to help me.

    Those that deserve to hang are Bai, Khaiyum, Sharon, Shameem and Gates.

    Everyone else who aided and abetted, including the Academics, Priests the soldiers etc must sign a contract that if they are ever involved in any future "PLANNING" of insurrection or Coup, they will be automatically given the death penalty. (I think they call it Suspended Sentence.)

    -Valataka na Dina.

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  72. Editor,
    Dr Susan Merrell the Australian journalist with a Phd in political science who has covered the Julian Moti trial quite extensively tells us in her article ( " ... " Fiji Sun 3/7)* that " Mr Moti's lawyers are yet to receive a reply ( to a request) from either the Australian Government Solicitor's Office or from [Nicola] Roxon [the Australian A-G] or Australian Foreign Minister, Bob Carr, who were copied in on the correspondence delivered more than 10 days ago".
    This is a not uncommon phenomenon..Infact, State officials have developed a very systematic way of dealing with any request they have no intention of dealing with. They send you and automated reply like " Contact form - new enquiry senator.b.carr@aph.gov.au" and then forget about you!
    My request goes back to Kevin Rudd when he was the Australian Foreign Minister - remember him?
    I am still waiting!
    But to be fair some people get very swift response to their request from the Australian state officials.
    Both Dr Merrell and Mr Moti would be familiar with such responses on the part of the Australian offialdom.
    Yours sincerely,
    sydney

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  73. RPC is on the right track. I have seen him in court. He is good and does his homework. So all you green eyed monsters - if you cant beat RPC join him.

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