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Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Fiji regime deploys more personnel to UN ops than NZ, Australia and Canada combined

UN Plaza: pic Selwyn Manning and Scoop Media.

By Sewlyn Manning

A UN Mission’s Summary report obtained by 36th Parallel shows that on May 31 2012 Fiji had deployed 359 soldiers and/or police to UN operations. This same report showed Australia had contributed 112 personnel, Canada 158, and New Zealand 24 personnel.

The comparative report for April 30 2011 showed Fiji had deployed 278 soldiers and/or police to UN operations. That snapshot report showed Australia had contributed 109 personnel, Canada 213, and New Zealand 24 personnel.


The data shows that the governments of Australia and New Zealand have not impeded the participation of Fijian troops in UN peace-keeping operations in spite of their public calls to that effect, and in fact have not impeded a rise in the number of Fiji troops being deployed to United Nations operations since the December 2006 military coup.


Despite Fiji’s military being warned by the United Nations secretariat in November 2006 that if it conducted a coup, overthrew its government, and installed a military-led regime, then its contribution to UN-led operations would be reduced or suspended, the United Nations increased the number of Fiji personnel deployed in the immediate post-coup period.


That trend has increased in the six years since.
In December 2006, at the time of the Fiji military coup, Fiji had 275 troops serving in UN peacekeeping missions. By April 30 2007, a report published by the United Nations’ Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO) showed Fiji had 17 extra soldiers deployed to UN missions – with a grand total of 292 soldiers participating in UN peace missions.



Background:

On the eve of the December 2006 Fiji coup the then United Nations secretary general Kofi Annan warned of consequences for Fiji’s military should it go ahead with a coup. Annan’s spokesperson said Fiji soldiers who took part in the coup d’etat would be unwelcome in UN missions.


In the immediate post-coup period, Kofi Annan also stated: “Any Fijian personnel, who are alleged to have committed human rights abuses or other illegal activities, will be repatriated at the expense of the troop-contributing country."


But throughout 2007, the UN’s position began to soften. In January 2007 Ban Ki-moon replaced Annan as the UN secretary general. At the time, Ban Ki-moon was under considerable pressure by Australia and New Zealand UN-based diplomatic representatives.


In a response to questions from this author in 2007, New Zealand’s then permanent representative to the UN, Rosemary Banks, stated: “The former UN secretary-general (Kofi Annan) said before the coup ‘…further prolongation of the crisis may damage Fiji’s international standing, which it has built carefully over the years, as an important contributor to UN peacekeeping operations…’ Current secretary-general Ban Ki-moon reiterated previous UN calls for an immediate restoration of constitutional democracy in a statement on 5 January.” Rosemary Banks added: “That same day his spokesperson was asked about his stance viz-a-viz Annan’s comments on Fijian peacekeepers. 


The response from the spokesperson was that ‘what was previously said, stands.’“.

In January 2007, New Zealand’s then prime minister Helen Clark said at her post-Cabinet press conference: “Shortly after the Fiji coup, when we announced the measures we were taking, our Ambassador herself went to the UN. So we did it at the most senior level in New York, and made it very clear that we did not think that Fiji troops should be supporting these exercises.”


By April 2007, Ban Ki-moon announced he had instructed UN officials to conduct a fact finding mission to Fiji as a basis for establishing a firm policy response in the post-coup period.


In response to questions in May 2007, Rosemary Banks said: “According to a release from the Secretary-General’s spokesperson, the report (when completed) will be confidential and will not be released beyond the Secretariat. We have not seen the report and do not know what its current status is.”


In response to further questions, the UN secretary general’s office replied: “The mission concluded some 10 days ago and the team is now working on drafting the report. It will be some time before we can answer your question.”


Further responses from the UN secretary general’s spokesperson followed: “There has been no increase in Fijian troops or police contributions to UN peacekeeping operations since December 2006, nor has Fiji contributed to any new UN missions since then.”


However, the UN’s own reports showed this statement to be incorrect.


Fiji’s contributions to UN peacekeeping operations increased in the immediate term, between May 2006 and May 2007, by 81.6 percent. Current UN reports show the number of Fiji personnel contributions as of May 2006 through to May 2012 were:


    May 06: 147
    May 07: 267
    May 08: 277
    May 09: 268
    May 10: 271
    May 11: 276
    May 12: 359.

In May 2007, a spokesperson for New Zealand’s then foreign minister, Winston Peters, said: “New Zealand believes it is inappropriate for troops from Fiji to take part in UN operations at a time when the Fiji military has overthrown a democratically-elected government. We are also aware of the financial value of peacekeeping duties for Fiji’s military.”


He said: “However we also understand the difficult balancing act that the United Nations faces. The United Nations did strongly condemn last year’s coup in Fiji and has continued to push for a return to democratic rule there. However, the United Nations also struggles to recruit professional and well-trained troops for peacekeeping duties in areas where those soldiers are potentially preventing civilian deaths from conflict. As a result they have often been forced to accept deployments from nations whose domestic human rights records are questionable,” the spokesperson said.


This appears accurate. UN reports in 2012 suggest Fiji’s troops in particular are valuable in combat operations. Fiji personnel have been deployed to some of the globe’s most serious hotspots. For example, Fiji’s contribution to the United Nations Assistance Mission For Iraq (UNAMI) increased from 221 personnel in April 2011, to 301 personnel in June 2012. That’s an increase of 36 percent, and shows Fiji’s troops make up 75 percent of the UN’s total contingent operating inside Iraq.


Over the past two years, there has certainly been a rapid increase in the use of Fiji military and police personnel. This runs parallel to a relationship thaw between Fiji and the USA, particularly since the Obama Administration deployed its former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, Frankie Reed, as its ambassador to Suva in October 2011.


The move ended the US’s apparent estrangement policy with regard to Fiji. Immediately prior to Reed’s Suva appointment, Commodore Bainimarama was issued an open visa to visit the US and had engagements in Connecticut, Florida and Tennessee. Officially, the rapprochement Between the US and Fiji runs counter to Australia and New Zealand’s travel sanctions policy against Fiji’s military regime leadership and their immediate families.


Then and Now:
From May 2006 to May 2012 the numbers of Fiji personnel deployed to UN missions is (at a 144 percent increase) over four times that of the increase in global deployed personnel numbers (36 percent).


UN Peaqcekeeping Chart by year, April 2006: 72,876 personnel, April 2012: 99,032 personnel. (source UN 2012).
In July 2012  36th Parallel sought a response from New Zealand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) asking: In 2006-07 the New Zealand Government openly advocated Fiji be excluded from UN peacekeeping operations. Has the New Zealand Government’s position changed, if so why?


A spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade responded: “New Zealand has in the past made clear its concerns about Fijian military personnel being used as peacekeepers because of the 2006 coup. Our future position will depend upon developments that take place in Fiji.”
Additionally, 36th Parallel sought a clarification from the United Nations secretary general exactly what its position is on Fiji asking: Can you confirm whether the United Nations has formerly engaged Fiji as a contributing nation to UN-led peacekeeping operations and if so when was the UN-Fiji commitment resumed?”


The UN’s chief public affairs section, Departments of Peacekeeping Operations and Field Support, Kieran Dwyer, responded: “There was no formal suspension of Fijian contribution to United Nations peacekeeping. Since 2006, the United Nations has carefully reviewed any offers from Fiji on a case by case basis.”


Assessment:

Australia and New Zealand’s policy of travel sanctions against Fiji’s military leadership and their immediate families appears out of step with their close security and trade partners – the United States and China.


Throughout the post-coup period, both New Zealand and Australia have maintained sanctions against Fiji, and Fiji continues to be suspended from the Pacific Islands Forum (PIF), largely at the insistence of the ANZ bloc. The Commonwealth body continues to maintain its suspension of Fiji. The PIF also suspended Fiji from contributing to the Regional Assistance Mission to the Solomon Islands (RAMSI).


36th Parallel’s inquiry shows the United Nation’s increased use of Fiji personnel in peacekeeping missions is contrary to the foreign policy positions maintained by Australia and New Zealand. The inquiry’s findings also show the two CANZ bloc nations, while maintaining their respective public hard lines with regard to Fiji, have since mid 2007 remained silent while the United Nations increased the number of Fiji personnel deployed to peacekeeping operations. Meanwhile the United States and China have developed closer ties with Fiji’s military regime.


Through 2012, the Baimimarama regime has indicated its intent to hold democratic elections in 2014 and most recently conducted a voter registration exercise, while work is ongoing on drafting a new constitution.


Forecast:  

In view of the UN, US and PRC approaches to Fiji, it is likely that Australia and New Zealand governments will publicly begin to soften their positions against the military regime, and will probably use the 2012 Pacific Islands Forum leaders’ summit as an opportunity to articulate an incremental re-engagement plan.

Notes:
United Nations reports show there are currently 16 United Nations peacekeeping operations, and one special political mission in Afghanistan. These are all led by the UN’s Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO).


Comparison – Fiji Contributions (snapshot from May 2006 to
May 2012)
May 06: 147
May 07: 267
May 08: 277
May 09: 268
May 10: 271
May 11: 276
May 12: 359.


Fatalities by Nationality from 1948 to June 30 2012:

Fiji, 48
Australia, 10
Canada, 121
New Zealand, 5.


Summary of Current UN Peacekeeping Operations:

UNAMI – United Nations Assistance Mission For Iraq
Australia (2), Fiji (301 troops out of a total 400 troops), New Zealand (1) contribute military personnel.


The UNAMA -  United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan

Fiji contributes military personnel to the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan and also contributes military personnel to other lead nations’ military and security forces operating inside Afghanistan, including British military forces.


The UNAMID – African Union/United Nations Hybrid Operation in Darfur
Canada contributes military and police personnel, Fiji contributes police personnel.
The UNSMIS – United Nations Supervision Mission In Syria
Fiji and New Zealand have contributed military personnel.
The UNMISS – United Nations Mission in the Republic of South Sudan
Fiji, Australia, New Zealand, Canada are contributing military personnel, and Fiji, Australia, and Canada are also providing police personnel to UNMISS.
The UNMIL – United Nations Mission in Liberia Fiji is contributing police personnel.
The UNMIT – United Nations Integrated Mission in Timor-Leste Fiji, Australia, New Zealand are contributing military and police personnel. 



Editor's Note: Full story, including graphs and images, available at the link below. 

Selwyn Manning writes for 36th-Parrallel.dotcom
(geopolitics and assesment) and is a former investigative political journalist with 20 years media experience. He specializes in geo-intelligence issues and Australasia/Asia/Pacific affairs.
http://36th-parallel.com/2012/07/fijis-military-regime-deploys-more-personnel-to-un-ops-than-australia-canada-new-zealand-combined/

48 comments:

  1. The forecast doesn't bode well for democracy

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  2. You guys have this a full 24 hours after the hated Graham Davies on his grubsheet. Why so late? Obsessed with bloody Lai, that's why.

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  3. What does Mannings report on the increased UN deployment of Fiji army and police personnel from after the 2006 Fiji coup demonstrate?
    It demonstrates the the double-standards, the inconsistency, the incompetence and the hypocrisy in the UN.
    Remember the writer who "...all too often the world not only stood by and watched these tyrants evolve, but even fed them and helped them grow into fully fledged monster..."
    The UN is guilty of this criminal conduct.
    And that's an awful shame because that is precisely what the UN was originally conceived to check against.

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  4. An excellent article providing further evidence of why the UN is failing as an organisation under its current leadership.

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  5. Nepali Army deployment to UNAMI has increased from 75 troops in May 2012 to 104 troops in June 2012

    RFMF troops at UNAMI have been reduced from 317 to 269 between May and June 2012.

    Tha article is incorrect. Fiji UNAMI depoloyment as at end of June 2012 is not 301 but 269.

    The phase out of RFMF deployment with UNAMI which was being discussed on the blogs earlier this year is now underway.

    Nepali Army started out with 33 troops in January 2012. They have been increasing troops gradually over the period wilst RFMF has been reducing.

    The article also does not distinguish between global Fiji Police deployments and RFMF deployments.

    For accurate numbers refer to the UNDPKO website. It contains the correct figures.

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  6. Doesn't bode well for democracy? Are you kidding? Democracy is on its way in Fiji or hadn't you noticed. More evidence that the world moves on and you idiots stay glued to the past.

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  7. Nepali Army for Iraq mission

    The Nepali Army (NA) will be sending a contingent of 170 soldiers to Iraq under United Nations Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI). This is the second time the Nepali Army would be deployed in Iraq since 1990. The request for Nepali deployment in Iraq was made by UN Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs B Lynn Pasco in March this year when he meet the Army chief Chhatra Man Singh Gurung.

    Over 3,500 Nepal Army personnel were currently serving in 36 different missions worldwide in more than 14 countries like Lebanon, Haiti, Syria, Israel, Congo, Ivory Coast and Eritrea among others. Nepali Army is the sixth largest troop contributor to the UN Peacekeeping mission.

    Source: The Himalayan, Xinhua, July 14, 2011

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  8. It seems a bit hypocritical for Fijian Soldiers and Police to be enforcing the Law and Democracy in other Countries when they are denying Freedom and Liberty in their own.
    The main reason the U.N. use Fijian Soldiers is because it costs less to Deploy them.

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  9. The UN just cares about itself. It doesn't care about Fiji.
    If it cared about Fiji, it would have kicked out Fijian soldiers in 2006.
    (For the benefit of those who don't know : Sacking of Fijian troops would lead to 2 things . 1) There will be reduced money( an important factor in this Coup) and increased unemployment and agitation by the public. 2) And secondly now you have trained soldiers who will be sitting at home. twiddling their thumbs and begining to ask questions about Bai's leadership.)

    So the sooner the Fijian soldiers are all sacked by the UN , the better.

    Fijians in times past have been good soldiers.
    I'm about to say a very important statement now: A GOOD and stable SOLDIER comes frome a good family, good community and a stable community.

    Now in Fiji we have increasingly poor familes; a lot of agitated families; a lot of unstable families.
    With a Corrupt Police Force; a perveted Judicial system-- what sort of society did we expect to produce?
    What sort of children did we expect to produce?
    What sort of soldiers will come out of this mess?

    Good soldiers come from Good communities. Full stop!

    What the UN and US don't seem to understand is allowing this coup-culture to continue will produce more and more unstable, unreliable and illdisciplined soldiers.

    First stabilise this community; Bring back Democracy NOW!(not 2014)
    Help us hang these criminals.... And we will always give you good soldiers
    Fijian mothers will gladly give you their children.
    Our sons will gladly fight for you... knowing that you helped them in their darkest hour.

    -Valataka na Dina

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  10. Anon@9.53am ... the deployment story was posted on our Facebook four days ago and has been read/seen by 1069 people ... so far. It did not appear here until now because, happily, we have more stories than we have space for. And, sorry, we are not keeping tabs on GD's blog but can obviously rely on you to act as the village mouthpiece. Salut!-C4.5

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  11. How is this report consistent with the news that the RFMF's UNAMI deployment numbers are dropping? Some clarification is in order.

    The phase out from UNAMI was pretty inevitable, but it's happening sooner than later, because, without American assistance, RFMF deployment capabilities are steadily degrading. The RFMF likes to pretend it's a crack unit, but the reality is that Fiji's military has trouble filling even a light infantry role. That's largely because its main focus for the past several years has been on pacifying an unarmed civilian population in a permissive environment -- i.e., Suva.

    The problem isn't the quality of recruits. With the proper guidance and training, Fijians make exceptional soldiers. The problem is with the RFMF leadership -- an unprofessional, undisciplined, corrupt, politicised and treasonous lot.

    The American government is prohibited by U.S. law from assisting the RFMF until Fiji has a democratic government. Until then, the Americans won't wink and pretend their large outlays for peacekeeping assistance are somehow laundered by being passed through the UN. 

    Canberra and Wellington have nagged the Americans and the UN ad nauseum in an effort to curtail RFMF deployments, but Washington and New York are understandably reluctant to impose a political litmus test on peacekeeping contributions, especially in the absence of new boots-on-the-ground commitments from Australia and New Zealand. Nonetheless, Washington has repeatedly committed to Canberra at the policy level that the United States will not favor the RFMF for any new peacekeeping missions under present circumstances. 

    Why, then, the growing numbers of RFMF troops deployed? As I understand it, it's because the RFMF never deployed up to the full numbers alloted. The number of alloted positions didn't change; the RFMF simply began filling more and more of the slots as time went on.

    Also, we should bear in mind that although the UN last year pressed the RFMF into a less passive role in preparation for the U.S. withdrawal, that was not as part of a new mission. It was simply a new posture under the RFMF's existing UNAMI mission.

    Despite the many -- usually self-interested -- assertions to the contrary, U.S. policy toward Fiji hasn't changed appreciably under Amb. Reed; she just has a different style than her predecessor. It's already been credibly explained that the 'open visa' for Bainimarama's last visit to the States was simply because of sloppy processing by Embassy officers who failed to annotate his visa with the customary 25-mile travel restriction.

    Now, if it's true that Col. Qiliho and other RFMF are on a Syrian monitoring mission, then something no longer adds up. That sounds to me like a new mission, and I also just don't see how Qiliho could have passed U.S. requirements for human rights vetting.

    UNAMI is phasing out, but plenty of other opportunities remain. Those jobs will go to Nepalese, Georgians, Bangladeshis, Mongolians and others -- not to Fijians. 

    The blame for this loss of deployment and training opportunities lies squarely on Bainimarama. Everyone explained to him the ramifications that would flow from a coup, in an eleventh-hour attempt to warn him off. But Bainimarama characteristically chose to put his personal interests ahead of the country's, as he has ever since and continues to do today.

    s/ Dakuwaqa

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  12. Will the UNOHCHR be the next sheltered workshop of the UN to hire Fiji military thugs to beat the crap out of people? Could you let us know before close of business matilda bludger?

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  13. I support comments by kite flyer and Valataka na Dina. UN could have helped restore democracy in Fiji but chose not to for pragmatic reasons. Obviously a lot of lobbyists are at work to retain Fijian troops. So principle is thrown out the door in favor of pragmatism. US too is getting culpable in this condoning of a repressive dictatorship. I guess China's forays into Fiji has changed the US stance to counter the Chinese move. What we have in the army are mercenaries who are guided by the amount money on offer. No question of priciple or duty to the people.

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  14. The UN has the USA's interests as a top priority thats why its all stuffed.

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  15. More than 90 percent of people in Namosi are against the proposed mine at Waisoi.

    The Tikina Namosi Landowners Committee says they conducted a survey to find out the people’s views about the proposed mine.

    TNLC spokesperson – Saviriano Nariva says many are against the idea.

    “We conducted a survey to find what they wanted. From there we gauged that around 92% of the people who have land in Waisoi – these people do not want mining.”

    Meanwhile Namosi Provincial Council chairman – Ratu Romanu Matanitobua says there the TNLC should follow the proper channel in releasing the survey results.

    “If they have the endorsement of this number why don’t they come out of their shell and talk it out with the government. They should not try to burden the company who is trying to go forth with its work.”

    The mining company – Namosi Joint Venture says they have not seen the survey and therefore cannot comment on it.

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  16. The USA has consistently supported dictators if and when it suited their interests. The UN is the most incompetent and most dysfunctional organization on this planet. Manning's report provides further evidence of this.

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  17. Re: July 17, 2012 10:09 AM

    The figures used in the report are accurate and sourced from the UNDPO.

    You can see the UN source documents linked at the foot of the 36th-Parallel Assessments report:
    http://36th-parallel.com/2012/07/fijis-military-regime-deploys-more-personnel-to-un-ops-than-australia-canada-new-zealand-combined/

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  18. Anon 1024am. Ditto on family. The rank and file of the FJ army are not to blame. You should know that. It is the leadership; in politics, society, church and military. And, despite the current difficulties, the family can look after its interests, if it wants to.

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  19. the UN failings are a product not only of its "current leadership" but its past as well. remember it was under Kofi Anans watch that the Rwanda-Burudi massacre took place in 1994 when the UN failed to take decisive steps when it was warned of the imminent danger of a possible genocide there.

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  20. The UN got it wrong on Fiji and it's getting it wrong on Syria. Arguably, the only place it has had some success recently was in Libya although that was largely thanks in the end to the Western forces and the tenacity of local forces defeating dictator Muammar Gadaffi.

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  21. "... sloppy processing of [visa applications]by [US] Embassy officers..."
    I don't believe it. I think the visa processing officials at US Embassies are infallible.
    Especially the mob at the US Embassy in Sydney.
    ..."credible explanation" for some visas being granted even when they shouldn't be by their own terms of reference - should be sought elsewhere.

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  22. Re July 17th 11:54am

    The numbers cited in the article are incorrect.

    The latest numbers of deployments by the UN can be obtained at the UNDPKO (UN Department of Peacekeeping Operations) site at

    http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/

    The numbers for each country on a month by month basis is in PDF format and goes all the way back to 2000. The current stat sheet for June 2012 is also there - showing the reduction in Fiji numbers when compared with the previous month (May 2012)

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  23. There was no evidence in the FICAC case against Laisenia Qarase to suggest that he was a public office holder when Fijian Holdings Limited was a private company – his layers claims.

    In her submission for – no case to answer – Tupou Draunidalo says at the time FHL was a private company – Qarase was merely a contractor with Fijian Affairs Board and the Great Council of Chiefs.

    She explained that for private companies’ board of directors have interests and can also have shares within the company as private companies exist to make private gains.

    The submission highlighted that FHL was a private company and later on became a public company.

    However the period in question was at the time FHL was a private company.
    FICAC is submitting their response in the no case to answer application by Draunidalo.

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  24. Anon@2.55 thanks for the short informative updates. Keep it coming!

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  25. tHE CURRENT CORP OF fIJI SOLDIERS ARE BEING RECRUITED BY UN BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CHEAPEST AROUND, THEY ARE NO LONGER THE BEST PEACEKEEPERS AS THEY WERE KNOWN TO BE. SO UN IS MERELY TRYING TO SAVE ON COSTS.

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  26. @Paula. True. The USA has consistently supported dictators as and when it suited its interest. And, of course , the USA is not alone in doing that. Many other developed democracies do that. And the communist ( read state capitalist) countries of course have never had any problems supporting any kind of undemocratic regime anywhere! Even the UN lays out the red carpet for such rogue leaders. They are treated as VIPs and appear before the UN General Assembly to make lofty speeches. I mean what kind of nonsense is that!

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  27. If you want to register a NGO, go and try, and you will find that you will have to register as a private company.
    Fiji is light on the ground when it comes to choice of registration for entities.

    OK, so is there anybody in Fiji who can actually give us a time line on when, how,whom financed Fijian Holdings.

    Was it an act of parliment?

    Did it come into this world as a brainchild of Jim Ah Koy? Cupid?
    How much cash did they put down?

    Maybe if C4.5 can get this info to help us with our judgment on the situation. Articles of Association would be helpfull, especially Objectives??

    Original shareholders and amounts?

    Cheers

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  28. Mark Manning you sure talk shit some times! Troops who are deployed to support the UN are paid rates standards set by the UN! If you had any sense you could have easily asked you mate Jone or Roko Ului? Even if they paid less for Fijian troops the Fijian soldier is reknowed in the theatre of WAR. The Japs prefered to surrender to an Aussie or American not a Fijian-they were scared shit of them! Ask anyone who has worked with them or better still ask those that came up against the Fijian in War! You are just full of yourself! There is 1 Statue erected in the famous HQts of the British SAS its a Fijian-Labalaba. The best you British cousins could do was give him a MC -till today all who fought him reckon he deserved a VC. Yes a Fijian.

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  29. Fiji is not the first country that had a coup at the same time had military presence in the UN! So if we cut the crap the truth is simply Pakistan had a military coup including Bangladesh, Thailand etc, so if was good for those countries why didn't Australia & NZ moan an groan about them? Simple Voreqe had kicked them in the teeth and they simply had no answer-it was the only way they could make up some milage as everything else they tried FAILED!They have treated the people of the Pacific so far as dopes. Now they are getting a lesson in 'don't take us for granted"

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  30. Valataka na dina 'good soldiers come from good families" you should tell that to the innocent men,woman, children in both Iraqa & Afghanistan that the soldiers who kiled their family members by bombing them come from good FAMLIES from the US, Australia & Britian! Add any other country you like.I saw the carnage wounder if you have?

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  31. Too bad for Tupou... seems that she deliberately misses the point. Clutching at loose straws seems more like it.

    From what I've gleaned so far in here, there is a case to answer and the damned man will answer!

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  32. @Anon July 17th 5:40pm

    O iratou na qase qori. Qori o ira na Laione Tagane.

    Kemudou nomudou cakacaka ga na surrender veiratou na Bedouin mai Sinai kei na drotaki iratou na Tonga Marines mai Minerva.

    Sa kua so mada na qaciqacia.

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  33. Anon@5.17. You need to ask yourself, how many coups have taken place in Fiji? Too many I might add in a short period of time numb skull. This was followed by abuse of power, corruption, nepotism and violence.

    As for Fiji peacekeepers, that's all they are good for. NZ, Aust and Canada sent specialized military personnel to troubled spots. For example, the SAS and reconstruction teams. The useless soldiers from Fiji are there to man checkpoints, no specialized roles. No wonder there are more of them because of their low level roles in those countries.

    Just look at what they're doing in Fiji, nothing. They're so useless the Tongan naval boat sailed in and took Ului, under their noses. So there's your useless military for you. They're only good at harassing ordinary people.

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  34. @Anonymous 5:21
    I agree with you. Indeed they were innocent and I feel sorry for them (Iraqis).
    Also a few thousand innocent young American soldiers also lost their lives.
    What happened there was "bad ledership".
    There was no "Weapons of Mass Destruction" . Only Oil and a personal vendetta.
    Bush , Cheney, Rumsfeldt have a lot to answer for. Also John Howard and Bliar.
    I have no respect at all for such evil people.

    I think George Washington and Abraham Lincoln would be very disappointed if they saw what these people did to their beloved America.

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  35. We forwarded a copy of the article on UN Fiji soldiers deployment to NZ Prime Minister and asked him to press harder in efforts to ban Fiji participation

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  36. LETTERS

    Judgement – 17-Oct-2008

    Sir,

    A dark day in the annals of Fiji’s Judiciary and legal history was brought about by the totally biased corrupt and self preservation judgement handed down by Anthony Gates, John Byrnes and Davendra Pathik in the Qarase vs Bainimarama case of Thursday 9/10/2008.

    I do not know Qarase nor am I a member of the SDL but I know when an injustice has been committed and I believe that the injustice in this case must be condemned by all law abiding citizens.

    This case in my view was not about Qarase and his party no this case was about our hope for Fiji’s future and the rule of law to triumph over unlawfulness.

    The President Iloilo has not only failed the ordinary people of Fiji but the Great Council of Chiefs who appointed him.

    The judiciary was tainted from the day Justice Daniel Fatiaki was forcefully removed and Anthony Gates unashamedly usurped his position.

    Gates efforts to legalise the immunity is laughable given that the immunity was designed to protect him also.

    Thank you Qarase and keep up the good fight against oppression, tyranny and injustice.

    Vili Navukitu AUSTRALIA

    Copyright © 2007, Fiji Daily Post

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  37. Everybody supports a dictator when he think it's in his personal interest to do so -- including Fijians, obviously.

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  38. Kiteflyer, many people have experienced the "infallibility" of American consular officers. But Dakuwaqa is correct. Under its UN hosting obligations, the United States is required to give unimpeded access to UN offices by diplomatically accredited personnel. That's the reason they issued a visa to Bainimarama, just as they've issued visas to Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, etc. These were not mistakes. But to fail to annotate Bainimarama's visa with the customary restriction was, and the regime took Full advantage of it, to the Americans' embarrassment.

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  39. Editor,
    I was lucky to catch by chance the PBS Newshour interview of William J Dobson the author of the book The Dictator's Learning Curve on SBS on 17/7. PBS political editor Hari Srinivasan asked him to talk the audience through the main theme of the book : How modern dictators had devised more sophisticated and subtle methods of manipulation and control to hold onto power without resorting to brutal naked force. William Dobson's book is based on contemporary country case studies around the world. The interview provided some valuable insights into the methods of modern-day dictators.
    I hope to share more once I have read the book
    Or, perhaps someone else who has read the book can be good enough to do that.
    It is on a subject that is very relevant to today's politics and people affected by it.
    Yours sincerely,
    Rajend Naidu
    sydney.

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  40. Derrr @10:12, Fiji is moving towards democracy? No, I hadn't noticed.

    Is that what you see? In what way?

    Are you on medication?

    All I see is more slouching toward Gomorrah.

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  41. Anonymous 5:21, yeah I saw the carnage. I was nearly killed in it also. Were you combat wounded, as I was? 

    It's too bad innocents suffered, but many more innocents suffered under Saddam Hussein. In the Americans' case, it was because of collateral damage. In the case of Saddam and the terrorists who followed after him, it was deliberate.

    How can you criticise the Coalition but not Saddam and the terrorists? What kind of baloney morality is that?

    Iraq is liberated. Saddam is dead. Violence has now ebbed. The Americans are mostly gone. They kept no territory. They established no permanent bases. They imposed no government or religion. They didn't take over the oil industry or even award themselves most of the contracts.

    The Iraqis have their own elected government. Their economy is growing. And they've got the best chance to shape their own destiny that they've ever had, thanks to the American-led coalition.

    We can be proud of the part Fijians played in Iraq's transition, as difficult as it was.

    May Fiji someday also transition back to freedom.

    God bless America. God bless Iraq. God bless Fiji. And God bless you.

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  42. Moala

    NZ has no say in a country's participation in the UN. Sorry... Russia, US, UK, China and France; the 5 permanent member states support Fiji participation.

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  43. Anonymous July 19, 2012 7:35 AM. Yes i saw active service before and after that and survived because of my natural instincts inherited from my forefathers! I was there when you guys were still sleeping in you beds back home! I wasn't stupid enough to get wounded. As for Saddam maybe you need a lesson in history who the hell do you think got people like Saddam into power in the first place? His grandfather? God bless USA? Yeh! It was their dirty politics, Germany , France, Britain etc that helped people like Saddam to stay in power so long. When they need to 'teach' the world to fear them the USA goes about bombing Saddam EVEN KNOWING they had no weapons of mass destruction! NOW you can't tell me thats what you call a WAR! Its murder when you knowingly kill people who are not armed nor the State you bombing ,knowing fully well they don't have weapons to protect or fire back! But worse of all you blame them for the 9/11 when the truth is they had nothing to do with that. You come here to defend that! You a bigger dope than i would have thought. You surely must be a one of those who just carries out ORDERS can't think for yourself and trying to justify murder!Dictators only survive when the powers to be do shit! And they do shit all when they realise there is nothing in it for THEM! Burma is a good example-so go lick your wounds and God Bless Fiji! Sega ni vanua ni kana na buca ni valu, vanua ni kila! Tilo mada nomu weli ka vakasama, na vei vaka loloma taki e a caka ena delai ni LASU!

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  44. UN is owned by a group of wealthy jews i think ? and they discovered a long time ago that their money can go a long way with the Fiji "Budget" army. All this talk of best peace keepers are just" feel good" hog wash that gives you momentary fuzzy feeling and false sense of pride but ultimately we are being systematically manipulated because we are generally nice accepting and forgiving people as long as we can pay for sugar and flour we are okay... its in our DNA.. oilei...ocei ena sereki au mai na yago ni mate qo..!

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  45. So the "UN is owned by a group of wealthy jews". Kemudou there are some 24 carat nutters on this website.

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  46. Anonymous 8:03, I have to agree with you. Some postings are brilliant, but these are offset by the rants of some real nut cases.

    Take Anonymous 5:34, as another example. 'I wasn't stupid enough to get wounded'. That's a helluva remark. What a venomous, despicable POS. 

    Another 24 karat nutter, to be sure.

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  47. Do your homework peoples, getting legit.. info out of any forum is like searching for easter eggs!, takes a bit of effort...hihi.. happy 2 b a 24 carrat nutter than a qitawa..!

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  48. Anonymous 5:37, you're an idiot.

    Terrorists can strike nearly anywhere and at nearly any time, like yesterday's bombing at an airport car park in Bulgaria.

    Was Talaiasi Labalaba 'stupid' for being mortally wounded at Mirbat?

    Obviously you're a fraud, as no combat veteran would ever make such a statement dishonouring the sacrifices of our wounded warriors.

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