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Wednesday, January 2, 2013

New Year's speech flags point of no return in Fiji

BAINIMARAMA: Luka to the future.
He's promising a year of change but many know better.

In his New Year's speech, Fiji's self-appointed prime minister says 2013 heralds 'great promise for all Fijians.'


But anyone following the botched and predictable end of the six-month long consultation process for a new Constitution will doubt the integrity of Frank Bainimarama's speech.


Avoiding the public furore over soldier's burning copies of the Constitution and Yash Ghai's public condemnation, he maintains the country will celebrate a 'new modern and enduring Constitution by the end of the first quarter of 2013'.

KHAIYUM: Smarmy and barmy.
Bainimarama insists this year will set the scene for a momentous time in the country's history, the 2014 elections, which he says will be held under a new Constitution.

A Constitution he describes as '..... a Constitution that must ensure common and equal citizenry ... a Constitution that must ensure that any representative of the people in Parliament  must be elected under the principles of one person, one vote, one man.'


Many will swallow Bainimarama's speech, along with the revelation he's about to change the country's flag but this military dictatorship has proven time and time again it has its own agenda. We've seen it in the past six years and we see it again with the Constitution process.



So in 2013 the game plan will be as it has been for some time: Bainimarama to dress nice and trot out state of the nation addresses while soldiers and henchmen like Mosese Tikoitoga do his dirty work. The lynch pin, Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum, will meanwhile continue to keep it all together with decrees.


And thus we see them at play this week with Bainimarama delivering more 'treats' for the people while Tikoitoga defends RFMF soldiers making bonfires of the people's wish lists, while the scale of Khaiyum's interference is all too clear in Ghai's latest statement (see below).


Tikoitoga says under the Fiji Constitutional Process (Constitution Commission) Decree 2012, it was illegal of Ghai to print copies because the Commission was only required to give the draft to Epeli Nailatikau.

He says the draft document should've only been released after being sighted, scrutinised and deliberated by the Constituent Assembly.

“Why did he go ahead to print 600 copies? The President doesn’t need 600 copies but just one copy to view. That is why we confiscated the document while it was still being printed."

Tikoitoga says the RFMF also opposes the suggested National Peoples Assembly saying Parliament will be the only decision-making body proving again that what the people want doesn't count: “Why should we have another body to make decisions and on whose mandate will they be working on?"

Yash Ghai has meanwhile issued an explanation to a few selected people, including political parties, trade unions, NGO's and academics along with the draft he says he submitted to Nailatikau. (Latest draft and related documents available at end of his statement via the link).

YASH GHAI RESPONDS TO REGIME
 
This short note is in response to allegations by senior members of the Fiji Government and the RFMF that the Constitution Commission violated the law when it ordered the printing of 600 copies of the Draft Constitution.

The process for the making of the constitution was negotiated largely between the Attorney-General, Mr. Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum and me. I insisted on a legal framework for the process, so the Commission would have a clear guidance on its responsibilities and the protection of its independence, and the public would have an understanding of the process and their participation in it (contrary to the view of the AG that there should be no law on the process).

Originally there was to be one Decree covering the whole process, the first draft of which I wrote. The AG divided the draft into two Decrees, one covering the Commission and the other the Constituent Assembly. I insisted that the Decree on the Commission should be as I had drafted it (with the exception of the provision on immunity of those involved in previous coups, excluding the 2000 one). But significant changes were made as regards the Constituent Assembly which I was opposed to (which were set out in a joint statement by the Commissioners when the Decree was published).

It was agreed throughout that the process would be highly participatory (the PM has said that every Fijian must have a voice) and that the Commission would be completely independent. Both Decrees guarantee that the process would be “inclusive, participatory and transparent”. The process was defined to include public consultation on the draft constitution by the Commission, and the submission of public views to the President for transmission to the Constituent Assembly.  The Commission was to ensure that all the people were able to participate in the process, and to show “manifest respect for people’s participation” and of their rights. The Commission had to inform the people the progress of the process so that they understand the issues under discussion. The participation of people was also reiterated in an important objective of the process: “true and sustained democracy”.

The Commission also had to publish an Explanatory Report summarising as concisely as possible and in a way that the people understood the recommendations embodied in the draft constitution and the reasons for those recommendations.

It was within this framework that the Commission decided on its engagement with the people including publishing the draft constitution and consulting the people. However on 31 October when the Commission had already made some decisions on the draft constitutions and were planning public consultations, that a Decree was published without any consultation with or advance notice to the Commission that there would be no public consultation. 


There was no mention whatsoever that the Commission could not publish the Draft Constitution and the Explanatory Report to the public. Indeed even after the October Decree, both the original Decree retained statements about the consultation and the duty of the Constituent Assembly to take public views into consideration (for example sec. 8 (1) (c) of the Decree mentions the function of the Assembly to “debate the Draft Constitution, Explanatory Report and the view of the people expressed on the Draft Constitution”).

It is not unusual for important reports to be presented to the Head of the State. This in no way precludes distribution of the report to the public.

If the overall objective of the process: participation of the people and the responsiveness of the Commission and the Assembly to their views, is to be respected, it is imperative that the Draft Constitution and the Explanatory Report should be available to the public immediately after they have been presented to His Excellency the President. It is on this assumption that we ordered the printing of a sizeable number of copies and were about to publish other material to assist the public when the Commission was told that it was not to publish any material relating to the Draft Constitution.

The position of the Attorney General is extraordinary, and hard to understand. The Decrees make clear that the Draft Constitution that the Assembly has to consider is that produced by the Commission—none other.

It therefore makes no sense to say that that Draft cannot be released to the public.  In none of the nearly 20 constitution making process in which I have been involved, or others that I have studied, has the commission been told not to publish the draft constitution. What happens to the Government’s objective of a “true and sustainable democracy” if the people are not allowed to read and discuss the Draft Constitution?

The Assembly has been given a maximum of 9 weeks to consider the Draft and adopt the constitution. Inevitably a week or more will be taken up to swear in and induct the members, adopt the rules of procedure, assemble a secretariat.

The documents that the Assembly members have to read, understand and debate are long and complex. When are they going to have the time to explain the documents to the people and seek their views?

Under what moral authority has the Government changed the process more than half through the period given to it? The Commission and even more the people have the right to expect that the rules and procedure governing the process as set out at its start will be respected and observed. It is on this basis that they engaged in the process.The change of rules has also seriously interfered with the independence of the Commission.

The dissemination of its work is surely a matter for the Commission, especially given the emphasis on the participation of the people. And is the printing of a decree any different from the phone call from the PM or the AG to the Commission to desist from their legitimate activities? Would the latter not be a clear instance of the violation of the independence of the Commission?

The illegal ban on the publication of the Draft Constitution and the Explanatory Report has led to circulation of legal texts purportedly as the Commission’s documents. This has resulted in considerable misunderstandings and confusion. The authentic, and the only valid, documents are those that I presented to the President on 21 December 2012. I have therefore decided on my own responsibility to release copies of the authentic documents to the public.



The Draft Constitution Ghai says he presented to Nailatikau

Appendage to Draft Constitution

The Explanatory Report

126 comments:

tattifala said...

Not one word out of the mouth of this military man who purports to be the Prime Minister of Fiji is to be believed. The man is a LIAR. His statement to Prof.Ghai that he wants the voice of every Fijian to be heard in the making of the new constitution was a lie to deceive Ghai, the people of Fiji and the international gang.The man is interested in only one voice - His OWN!! The burning of the draft just confirms that.

tattifala said...

New Year but same old bullshit from Bai about how he and his co crooks are making Fiji a utopian democracy.

Kamlesh Kumar. said...

Believe in him. He has done so much for Fiji inspite of sanctions. He promised a fair constitution which he gave and now all political parties are accepting it. He is the man of his words. Trust him and believe in him.

Ki- Bau said...

Kamlesh you are full of bullshit. You are Baini's left ball.

Julab Dean said...

Vutuki Meo- You are a racist with hidden nationalistic agenda. When you speak you spew vernom. People like you have no place in modern fiji. It doesnot mean you own fiji irrespective of your forefathers drifted to our fiji from South Africa. Change your racial thinking in 2013. Be like a european.

SEMI MEO said...

Election will be in 2014 and a draft and henceforth a constitution will be ready by then to spell out the game rules for the imminent election in 2014.

Ghai’s exercise may not have been a wasted effort after all as submissions made so far may be considered together with submission soon to be called from those who were probably in hiding the last time.

Of course, we may NOT believe all the Rear Admiral propagates, but just get a blooming draft out, please!!...even if it is only a couple pages with immunity and amnesty provisions!

Now, will the 0.01% Fiji cowards that droll, crawl and prowl in this C4.5 form their own political party, please.

…0f course they’ll get 0.00001 % of voters!...that’s..mmm…all nameless coward in cyberville

Anonymous said...

All their speeches ring hollow in light of the junta's unlawful interferences into the constitutional process and the independence of the YGhai CCom.

Gosh, how insulting it must feel for them to speak to people whose eyes constantly glaze over as they dutifully stare at them treasonous s.o.bs with blank bored looks on their faces. The junta do not and cannot dictate what goes on in your heads! hahaha....

rajend naidu said...

Padre James Bhagwan draws an erroneous analogy between our seafarer ancestors'journeys into the unknown and what he describes as " an amazing journey" which he claims "lies ahead for our nation in over the next two years" (Fiji Times 2/1).
Unlike the early seafarers the journey that lies ahead for our nation and our people is not an "unknown". Padre Bhagwan's extrapolation is wrong. Our nation is either headed towards democracy or towards tyranny. It's as simple and straightforward as that. But Padre Bhagwan says " whichever direction this journey takes us are we willing to travel together as we search for that island of hope on which we wish to live?"
I for one am not willing to "travel together" - to be a fellow traveler - with people who are not taking the country back to democracy.And, I am sure there are many other Fiji people both in Fiji and abroad who feel the same way.

tattifala said...

Bainimarama : Luka ca ! Fiji's future in his hands ca levu!

Anonymous said...

Frank /ASK stop your bullshit.

Jioji M. said...

There goes the porn watching idiot semi, supporting immunity and amnesty. Hmmm amnesty fothanes who ran away and owing thousands? No wonder semi is all for this. Enough on this old senile demented semi.

Bai and Aiyarse, you two can't fool the people, 2013 will be worse than the last 6 years, poverty will continue to be prevalent, corruption will continue to rise and the people will continue to despise you two.

Anonymous said...

In the two photos above, Aiyarse was looking at Bocimarama picking his nose, then he looked away smirking and thinking....what an asshole.

Anonymous said...

no truth will come out from this group of con artist.
never trust them with any of they words .liar liar liar

Anonymous said...

They have sad face.look at them.not happy at all .
sins getting in the body .

Vutuki Meo said...

@Julab Dean mada chod
If you want to be European you piss off back to Europe.
There is a reason why this place is called Fiji. It is for.......
You fill in the blanks.

Sharar said...

Humans fear what they do not know or understand...You have to take risk to find out the truth..the amount of corruption that was going on in the Qarase govt and was done so out in the open...nothing was being done about it...So along came Bainimara with his Sasa broom and guess what...pigs could fly ....all those fat asses in high positions milking money from the poor suddenly took flight to foreign lands and are oinking on c4.5 that they "want" to come back but can't for fear of being jailed for their past deeds...Stay where you are and rot there...we dont need you or your two cent comments or ideas here in the NEW FIJI...we'll do it on our own..oh and if you think you will come back under a new administration and try to get away with it??..you wont..your court case will still be waiting for you...GOD BLESS the NEW FIJI..ALLAHU AKBAR

Fiji democrat said...

It would be good if Semi and Rajesh left this site and allowed more understandable and reasonal comments to surface. I see merits on both sides.

Pacific in the Media said...

Post Christmas missive from blogger Truncated Lounge:


Darling Grubby,

I hope all is well. I thought I would forward to you the letter the AG wrote to Cash Guy after the bonfire incident. It really explains the situation well. I have already sent a copy to Crazy Welsh who has been doing splendid job on his blogsite. He is basically saying Cash is a criminal and cannot be expected to tell the truth or work in the best interests of Fiji.

Dear Professor Guy,

I was deeply disappointed with your increasingly erratic behavior whilst you were in Fiji. As you know I brought you in to chair the Constitution Commission on the understanding that you agreed with my Master’s thesis about how to destroy Fijian culture, modernize it and turn it into my very own modern dictatorship.

I thought you always admired me because I am the only student you have ever had who has turned their thesis into their life plan and is living it out right before your eyes. I have carried out the first steps of overthrowing the democratically elected government, destroying the chiefly system, destroying the unions and best of all destroying the sugar industry the stronghold of the traitor Mahen ChowDryNoodles. You know the next step of the thesis was to produce a new constitution of one man one vote, that one man being me.

We had discussed this in Hong Kong and you gave me a D- saying it was not possible but you would help me in any way you could.

You accepted the job as Chairman on the clear understanding that you will produce a constitution with our long list of non-negotiables, having listened to lots of opinions in Fiji, which you will ignore completely, and listen only to mine. Instead you break this agreement and you totally disregard the three opinions that matter: mine, my puppet Commodore Frankly Bananas and the head of the RFMF Thickoitoga’s. As you know the constitution was supposed to make Frankly and his descendants President of the Bananas Republic for the next 1,000 years. I and my family were to be his chief advisers, paymasters and money launderers for the next 1,000 years and as such have the title of Prime Minister. What happens to old Thicko does not matter.

Pacific in the Media said...

Truncated Lounge part two:

Instead you produce a constitution that will leave me powerless as no one in Fiji will ever vote for me.

We realized a two months ago that you were not playing your role when our surveillance of you caught you talking to known terrorists like the chief Ratu SourDoughBall, the feminist, ShameOnYou All and worst of all Foreign extremists like the acting High Commissioners of the UK, Australia and New Zealand.

In addition you seemed to think that for your constitution to work I would have to amend my decrees. That is so wrong minded I can’t believe I ever learnt anything from you. My decrees are and will remain forever the highest laws of this land. That is why I have Queen Antonia, The hief Justice, and an army of Sri Lankan Lawyers waiting to amend your constitution so it follows my laws.

As a result we brought out decree number 666 which banned you from distributing your copy of the draft constitution. We knew we were going to have to re-write before giving it to the Constituent Yes Men and wanted to make sure there was no confusion.

Your action of printing hundreds of copies was an act of terrorism against the legitimate dictatorship of the Bananas Republic. That action forced me to put in place a cunning plan that would end your attempts to bring true democracy to Fiji.

The police had set incendiary devices throughout the printers. The policeman was under instructions to hit you over the head and leave you unconscious on the floor surrounded by your copies of the draft constitution. The Police were going to vacate the building and set off the fire bombs.

Shazzer had written a very nice piece about how you were martyred trying to heroically save the constitution from the conflagration but unfortunately died in the attempt. Peter LowmastHead of the Fiji SUNk had already written your obituary. The autopsy would have backed up that story and you would have been flown home to Kenya in a coffin a true hero of democracy.

I had also got the Fiji Audio Visual Commission involved and they were going to make a bio pic about your life. We were already in negotiations with the actor who played Gollum in the Lord of the Rings. He looks a bit like you and he would be perfect going on about the Precious constitution, Precious democracy, Precious Freedom of Speech and your Precious Bloody Human rights.

That would have been the perfect ending. It would have given us time to replace your constitution with one written by Her Royal Highness Nazihat Von Shameondtme, Queen Antonia and Brigadier Thickoitoga. We would say it was your greatest work and out of respect to your martyrdom we would leave it unchanged. Best of all you would not be around to deny the switch.

Unfortunately you managed to escape the clutches of my bungling policemen and you survived. That is more than I can say of the Officer in charge of that operation and he is now fertilizer on my new farm in Labasa.

I have written Decree no 9,999 and it makes you a criminal before my law and the members of my Secret Police, the Aiyarse Bandits, will hunt you down wherever you may be in the world. They hope that you will elude them for a while so they will be able to travel to lots of exotic destinations and spend a lot of tax payers money in their attempts to catch you. They have also been in touch with Interpolpot the international organization of cooperation between the secret police forces of dictators. You will not be able to hide.

Remember I was once your student but now I am the master of your fate and that of all Fijians. You will not stop me as I take control of Fiji, Tonga will be next, followed by Samoa, New Zealand…………

Your Sincerely

Aiyarse

AG Always Guilty.

Grubby I hope you find that as inspiring as I did. It makes me so happy that I have sworn allegiance to the most evil and corrupt genius in the Southern Hemisphere. Together we will be able to build the world’s biggest media network. I have already gained control of the Fiji SUNk, FBC, Grubsheet………….

Hugs and Kisses

Shazzer

SEMI MEO said...

Why and How on God’s earth are these mischievous cowardly 0.01% of low down breed of Fijians ever allowed to profane this highly esteemed column created only for the wise and brave like us 99.99% patriotic Fijians…

Why?

While the 99.99% of us sane Fijians loose no sleep at all tonight, these bunch of pathetic losers may be taking sleeping pills or “veitarataravi na taki” to aspire numbness to slumber in deep denial….

Denial that Ghai is no more running around the international media in poor attempt to salvage his reputation he may have wilfully soiled in Fiji by his 599 stupidity!

Denial because this Rear Admiral , stubborn as he is as a drunken seafarer, will NOT listen to these 0.01% . We the 99.99% Fiji citizens , though are fed up and tired with this lengthy and cumbersome constitutional process, still have sanity, goodwill and grace to give it another go for a draft to be amicably produced by March ’13.

Of course, all of us are tired. We all wanna get as far away from these dry dock of constitutional confusion…we wanna sail out to the best we could be!

But…but…we can not and will no successfully achieve that resole if we do not even know the names of all crews in MV Fiji we may be entrusted to work along side in the gullies of life!

Hello…no matter how we bark and growl against the Rear Admiral…no way he is gonna shift..no way…eh…unless of course divine intervention.

So, why not we focus on making him and his well oiled party machinery be subject of our rigorous campaign leading up to election 2014.

Again, we can NOT beat him at the polls if we choose to continue to do what the 0.01% cowards have been doing all these 2,200 days!!...yep…hiding and profaning vilifying all us voters!

What sought of life do they lead, we ask??....2,200 day...and the Rear Admiral still rules...these 0.01% loves to have Bainimarama rule for another 2,200 days...yes they do!!

Anonymous said...

Looks to me like a case of bad drafting by ghai of decree 57. There seems to be a misunderstanding between Govt and Ghai over decree 57 and whether it allowed Ghai to print the 600 copies of the draft Constitution. If Ghai says that such a step has been undertaken by him in other countries then it sounds to me like he did not foresee that such a disagreement would arise. It is either that or he overlooked including a provision in the decree that would have given him authority to print the 600 copies although i would get that he is relying on other portions of decree 57 that emphasised on transparency. Bad drafting by Ghai perhaps? though the burning of the draft constitution is way overhand.

Sharon Smith said...

Vutuki Meo and Ki Bau.

You two are nationalist and racists twits of old fiji. Change your views or be prepared to suffer in hell. Vutuki you seem to be an angry abusive person. Time to have some grog at QEB for both of you.

FijiWala said...

Nose picking, spitting in public places, scratching butt, burping, and other such unhygienic practices is nothing new to Fiji. Fiji is know for this. If you don't believe me go to market or bus stand and
observe.

This are the most disgusting habits that the people of Fiji think are acceptable.

I would advocate that the government SHOULD start an educational program to teach the populace of proper etiquette and hygiene.

Anonymous said...

How come Vinod Patel and co Ltd have been chosen to supply the Govt with all the relief materials .----Why no tenders were called? Where is Ficac? Some body should be jailed !

Anonymous said...

Suresh patel and Bipin Patel(reg no.777 ) should be investigated for fraud---re Challenge Plaza and CMLA insurance fraud .

Anonymous said...

Sunil Sharma--Legal Aid head will take out probate of your loved ones---just give him a few bucks on the side---the rich can afford this.The poor plse pay !!!

Anonymous said...

Semi you're the one polluting this column with your filth. Your comments are nothing more than support for your boyfriend Bocimarama. To be knowledgeable is a good thing, but wanting to be knowledgeable like yourself is shameful. Why don't you do yourself a favor and piss off. The kind of language and words you used are typical of someone who is senile and mad. Can't you see that people are laughing at your stupidity? Shame on you. And don't forget to take your HBP medication because clearly your blood pressure is climbing due to your rantings and watching too much porn online.

Go away mr. 99.99%.

SEMI MEO said...

@ Coward January 2, 2013 10:43 PM...mmmm...the self appointed Cyber Cop...eh??

So you're gonna read you post above at your family dinner tonite??

Of course you not dare!..as you misus will throw you out with you HBP medication!!

All these 0.01% breed of Fijian cowards wants all us 99.99% brave Fijian to agree with their "bele ni liku" and shari philisophy!

Nur...thank you very much!

Optimus said...

Thanks Ghai you've done your task properly. Now we await what the dictator will present in March. With Tikoitoga's barking lately I think we'll have a complete new constitution by then.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Mr.Meo with the amount of comments being written probably this could go out as a draft constitution and let the military burn it. So stupid for Tikoitoga to say the military had nothing to do with it that it was the police. My God does he think that the Fijian public are bunch of idiots. Its a Military run government so every thing is military you stupid moron.Very soon Frank will tell the public no it was not me Aiyaz did it...Well they might as well hold hands in public because from the pictures we are seeing they are spending more time together then with their spouses.God Bless Fiji.

Just Saying said...

Frank thinks he has sorted the new Constitution and is moving to the flag, what a d!@#$head.

Optimus said...

Guys let's leave Semi Meo alone, don't respond to his ramblings. We're doing him a favor by responding to his nonsense. Let's focus on getting our country back to civilian rule and bring those coup perpetrators to justice.

God Bless Fiji.

SEMI MEO said...

@ so which god are you calling to bless Fiji Optimus and anon January 2, 2013 11:52 PM..

Fiji is blessed before the Coups, during and after the Coup purely 'cause they are brave Fijian who pertitions their God with their real name..

nameless cowards pray to nameless gods and may enjoy each others nameless flimsyship..lol...lol

The rest of us 99.99% blessed Fiji Citizens keep focusing on the new draft and 2014 elections..

Please do NOT respond to my post..THANK YOU!!

Anonymous said...

Making a new flag is a bit over the board for a govt eager to change everything about Fiji just for sake of making change.

The current flag should be kept becoz it is elegant and recognizes our history, however messy it was as something we should be proud of, knowing how it shaped out.

A true patriot is one that sees that blue flag as a sign of multiculturalism because it recognizes the sugarcane plant [as a token to our Indian brothers history and ancestry], the banana bunch [as a token of Taukei industry past and present], the dove, as an obvious symbol of peace past present and future multiculturally or otherwise[and which have biblical roots - in a nod to Fiji's christian background], that coconut tree - known as symbol of life for any Pacific island country and which provides nourishment to most if not all in Fiji - regardless of whether they are Indian, Taukei or otherwise. And of course that Union Jack which is a declaration of our history. The union jack is a symbol of unity for England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. It implies unity. By keeping that union jack on that beautiful banner blue reinforces that message of unity in Fiji in the face of multi-culturalism since independence.

In all, there is no need to re-invent the wheel on this. It reeks of desparation and even worse egotism.

Vutuki Meo said...

The new flag will show a Pig in keeping with the money theme of animals and plants.
The pig will be pink and feeding from a trough.

The Pink Pig will truly reflect our gay leadership and gay followers like you know who.

Sharon Suaniu said...

Changing of flag and removing of queen from our dollar is in retaliation to British gov not allowing Frank to set foot on M6 highway nor visit any military camps while in UK. His pictures were posted on every guard room in military camps. He was rightly treated as a criminal. Kudos to UK gov.

Why is Frank picking his nose in public, in front of cameras? It is no wonder these babarians don't have a clue of their roles in civil society. Qorvis and associates are doing a poor job training these kaivekaus.

Vutuki Meo said...

@Sharon Bicycle Smith
Why should I go and waste my time at QEB. The place is crawling with pooftas.
QEB is full of pooftas.
All poking each others arse with guns day and night.
Only perverts live there or go there.

In fact I think you are actually one of the boys from QEB who has had so much gunmaro you changed your name to Sharon.

Maybe your real name is Tikoitoga or Naliva or..boidada.








SEMI MEO said...

Anon..January 3, 2013 12:35 AM.

We the 99.99% Fiji Citizens concur with your patriotic sentiments that the Fiji flag should be a no go zone for any Government, let alone an interim administration like the Rear Admiral’s.

We all tend to now deduce the brains behind these very sudden and radical changes..well, gauging from the “ Hong Kong thesis “ it could be any ones guess!

99.99% members of the Fiji Military, Police and Prison Service who swore allegiances to all the Fiji flag represents must be silently gutted. Our brave sports players and fans pledge allegiance to the present Fiji flag!

To many it is like wrenching off a page of scared holy book.
May be it is time for the Rear Admiral to be isolated from the influences of Mr. Aiyuz and Mr. Ghai. Of course, it is time God fearing gentlemen and ladies full of wisdom, truth and grace within and without the present Government to intently get past the Aiyuz screen and strong hold on the Rear Admiral and remind him changing the flag could be a bridge too far!...as taken away the present Fiji flag may single the end of dedicated allegiances to the Rear Admiral and proud Fiji Military legacy!

….mmmm…or is Mr. Aiyuz is just manipulatively smart to attempt vilify his one time mentor Ghai and slowly isolate his one time soul mate the Rear Admiral from his main supporters and jump in the mix as the white knight at the international communities applause …food for thought in Delainabua!

Anonymous said...

Jao kuto chode!!! You really need to be rocked, include your sister and wife, Suresh and I will fully extract every drop of frustration from your family, probably you can eventually open the Plaza if you have any unexplored openings left!!!! Chode.- Bipin Patel (777)

Victor Lal said...

Victor Lal said...

Dear Editor

For the sake of the people of Fiji, it would be better to tell the truth - Professor Yash Ghai did not send it to a select few people for bed-time reading, he gave it to me to release it through Fijileaks to the whole world. Many thanks and Happy New Year
CONFUSION ENDS HERE
To end all doubts, HERE is the FINAL DRAFT CONSTITUTION handed to the PRESIDENT OF FIJI
The Draft Constitution 2013

The Explanatory Report

Appendage to Draft Constitution

By VICTOR LAL
The world-renowned constitutional expert and chair of the Fiji Constitution Review Commission Professor Yash Ghai has requested us to release, on his behalf, the slightly revised and authentic Draft Constitution and the supplementary documents that he, along with his fellow Commissioners, presented to the President of Fiji, Ratu Epeli Nailatikau, on 21 December 2012. In a covering note below he explains why he has taken the the unprecedented step to release the documents in this way:

January 3, 2013 1:56 AM
Anonymous Victor Lal said...

"The position of the Attorney General is extraordinary, and hard to understand...In none of the nearly 20 constitution making process[es] in which I have been involved, or others that I have studied, has the commission been told not to publish the draft constitution...And is the printing of a decree any different from the phone call from the PM or the AG to the Commission to desist from their legitimate activities? Would the latter not be a clear instance of the violation of the independence of the Commission? Under what moral authority has the Government changed the process more than half [way] through the period given to it? I have therefore decided on my own responsibility to release copies of the authentic documents to the public."
Professor Yash Ghai

BY PROFESSOR YASH GHAI
The authority of the Constitution Commission to publish and disseminate the Draft Constitution and the Explanatory Report

Anonymous said...

Vinaka Victor. 99.9% of fijians can see through this regimes lies an will vote them out of power next year. Let's keep the heat on.

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Anonymous said...

Meow

Anonymous said...

No ones finger fits as comfortably in your nose as your own.

Anonymous said...

I agree and surprisingly understand for once what you're saying Semi. No un-elected regime should be allowed to make such radical changes to anything. Not now, not ever!
You would think educated people within the regime know this. Is power, money and benefits that blinding?
Sa yali ka dina na yalo ni kai viti dina.

Waiawe!

Anonymous said...

People let's ignore Semi's rhetoric and concentrate on regime.

tattifala said...

@Fijiwala . yes you too right fiji does have those hygine problems and more but public and civic education is not the answer. Too long and unreliable the education strategy.In new Fiji best solution - just pass another one of those cranky decrees outlawing those inhygenic habits !!
Decree this and decree that - - the way of the dictator!!

Anonymous said...

So this is proof that Yash Ghai was blogging all along and getting his constitutional views from bloggers. This is so funny man. In the end he gets bloggers to give him his constitution rather than the people that presented to him in person. No wonder this won't work.

Anonymous said...

To Semi Meo,Julab Dean,Kamlesh Kumar and others who make constructive comments,

Lets leave the o.o9% of imbeciles alone and not waste our time on them.
This Govt and the FMF have the country at heart to create a modern Fiji.The world and especially Fiji does not have time or place for racists.We surely will have an election in 2014 and even if the current government forms a party and wins the election fairly these imbeciles will be crying out 'foul'.

Long Live Bainimarama
Lon Live FMF

Dharam Lingam

Anonymous said...

@ Anon January 3, 2013 9:45 AM

O sa tovolea oti nai vutu sakure nei Semi Meo?

SEMI MEO said...

"People let's ignore Semi's rhetoric and concentrate on regime." ..says Anon of January 3, 2013 8:17 AM

Phew!..that is definitely music to my ears!!

True man!...cava noqu cala ie?

Your war is against the Rear Admiral and Mr. Aiyuz...NOT against an innocent ordinary citizen like yours truly.

But again, if "sicko" of January 3, 2013 7:46 AM could prove and sent me "invoices" of alleged millions I owe then I would gladly settle that, including his 25% commission.

..this is my private email...semimeo@gmail.com..this is my mob no +61420775943.

However if his spew is only same as what comes from his "rear" then he keeps all that as his well earned commission!

@Sodomite of January 3, 2013 9:45 AM...sobo..kerekere, kua ni mai wasea vaka mata i levu tu eke na ka a rairai vakayacori vei iko...dau maroroya nomu ka lo!

Kamlesh Kumar said...

@anonymous 9:45
Gonei na i vutu tiko vei Semi e rau vikilai lo toka la kei Bainimarama.
Koya beka ya ka rairai da walega kina na veitavioka mai Delainabua ena gauna ni veicemuri ena 2000.
Au rogoca na veisamuraki rau dau kitaka nai lala qo se tekivu sara la mai Raiwai.
Ya ga na vuna dredre tiko kina nodrau veibiu o Semi kei Bai.

Vutuki Meo said...

YOUR CHANCE TO DESIGN THE NEW FIJI FLAG....

"I promise not to burn the submissions this time"
-Vutuki Tikoitoga.


State keen to revamp Fiji flag

Nasik Swami
Thursday, January 03, 2013

Fiji flag. Picture: JONE LUVENITOGA+ Enlarge this image

Fiji flag. Picture: JONE LUVENITOGA

FIJI'S new flag which will be designed this year is one that will focus on uniting the whole nation. This was confirmed by the permanent secretary for the Prime Ministers Office Colonel Pio Tikoduadua.

Prime Minister Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama, in his New Year's Day message on Tuesday, revealed that the government would revamp Fiji's flag.

Col. Tikoduadua said Fiji needed a new identity.

"Fiji is embarking on a new journey and a new vision. We have a new constitution, a new brand for our national airline, new currencies and we want the flag to include things that are found in Fiji," he said.

Col. Tikoduadua said the new flag was part of the changing spirit Fiji was heading towards and was one that would brand and market the country.

He said everyone would unite under the flag and it would set out a new direction for Fiji.

"We are moving towards creating a new Fiji and not like what some people think Fiji is."

Colonel Tikoduadua said the new flag will be like the new currency released yesterday which captured everything in Fiji.

"While the there is nothing bad in the current flag, the new flag will be for the people of Fiji."

He said Fijians will be given the opportunity to design the new flag.

"I think we will put up an advertisement for a competition and people will be asked to design the flag," Colonel Tikoduadua said.

He said the criteria for the design has not been confirmed.

"We are moving towards creating a new Fiji and not like what some people think Fiji is."

Col. Tikoduadua said the new flag would be like the new currency released yesterday which captured everything in Fiji.

"While the there is nothing bad in the current flag, the new flag will be for the people of Fiji."

He said Fijians would be given the opportunity to design the new flag.

"I think we will put up an advertisement for a competition and people will be asked to design the flag," Col. Tikoduadua said.

He said the criteria for the design has not been confirmed.

Anonymous said...

KK tukuna o Semi Kuboumaisala ni mavolo sikoti tiko vei roko vore koya dredre nodrau veibiu.

SEMI MEO said...

@Kamlesh Kumar of January 3, 2013 10:19 AM.

Keimami kerekere qai "print" e dua na "copy" ni ka o vola toka qo e cake ka laki wilika vei iratou na nomu veitinani ena vakayakavi ni kua.

Oti, kauta e dua na "copy" vua na nomu i Talatala, Pastor se Turaga Bete.

Qai kerea me bau dua toka na "copy" vei nomu Ta kei Na.

Era na qai taro ne...wawa, o vunivuni tiko, ia keimami sa dau via siqema vakalailai me laurai mai na nomu yabeyabe vakalairo kei na nomu dau sega dabe dei.

Ia, keimami sa na gole na kena vo si sasaga me vakalesui tale na matanitu qo ki na tu galala..

Qai biu tu mai o kemuni na saga tiko ga na mua muri!

Pacific in the Media said...

Vinaka Victor but Yash Ghai sent an email to 29 people titled Authentic Drafts, which included the draft he says he handed to Epeli Nailatikau. This is the draft we've published, along with the Appendage to the Draft Constitution and the Explanatory Report, which Ghai also sent in the email.-C4.5

Anonymous said...


NZ’s McCully worried draft copies of Fiji’s constitution and burned

Posted at 20:47 on 02 January, 2013 UTC

New Zealand’s minister of foreign affairs is concerned some draft copies of the constitution in Fiji have been banned and burned.

In defiance of the ban, the Fiji Constitution Commission has begun distributing the draft version of the constitution, which was commissioned by the interim government and produced over several months with financial support from New Zealand.

Last week, copies of it were confiscated and burned by police.

Murray McCully says there needs to be a constitution in place so that proposed elections in 2014 go ahead with international support.

“There needs to be at the end of the day a constitutional process that is going to stand up to international scrutiny and an election that is going to stand up to scrutiny and then the military need to accept the results of that election and that means they have to go back to the barracks and perform the normal role play in a democratic society.”

Murray McCully says he is in close contact with his Fiji counterparts, and will monitor the situation.

News Content © Radio New Zealand International
PO Box 123, Wellington, New Zealand

Anonymous said...

YOUR CHANCE TO DESIGN THE NEW FIJI FLAG.... "I promise not to burn the submissions this time" -Vutuki Tikoitoga. State keen to revamp Fiji flag Nasik Swami Thursday, January 03, 2013 Fiji flag. Picture: JONE LUVENITOGA+ Enlarge this image Fiji flag. Picture: JONE LUVENITOGA FIJI'S new flag which will be designed this year is one that will focus on uniting the whole nation. This was confirmed by the permanent secretary for the Prime Ministers Office Colonel Pio Tikoduadua. Prime Minister Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama, in his New Year's Day message on Tuesday, revealed that the government would revamp Fiji's flag. Col. Tikoduadua said Fiji needed a new identity. "Fiji is embarking on a new journey and a new vision. We have a new constitution, a new brand for our national airline, new currencies and we want the flag to include things that are found in Fiji," he said. Col. Tikoduadua said the new flag was part of the changing spirit Fiji was heading toward

Sharon Suaniu said...

I will put Semi, Frank, Tikoitoga, kaiyum in quadruple position on my new Fiji flag design.

Anonymous said...

Mr.Meo is the spicing in this discussions keep it up. God Bless Fiji.

McCully Stuffs up said...

Murray McCully now showing concern for the monster he helped survive.

FijiWala said...

It is my opinion that instead of making all the changes to currency, flag, national anthem and things that are trivial, the government should spend their energy on things that matters. LTA is the biggest corrupted origination in Fiji. Next is the Fiji Police Force. The Immigration follows after that. The list goes on.

For those people that do not suffer from a case of memory loss, let me remind you that on December 5th, 2006 when the Military took over the powers of the government, one of the reasons given was to have a clean up campaign. This is 2013. To date we have seen a minimal "clean up" of bribery, backdoor deals, greasing of palms and such practices.

I know that the PM hates this site and does not go on any blogs. I am also aware that Sharon does have her people and at times she visits this site. So here is the deal, Sharon or her people that do read this, make sure to carry this message to PM and AG. Make them aware that things have not changed all that much from pre2006. Go back to basics and rethink your mission.

Anonymous said...

Folks, it is far better to have 40 idiots in the parliment instead of 71 as in draft constitution.

Anonymous said...

Murray McCullay says Fiji takes two step back!!! permalink

















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McCully wades in to Fiji debate

03/01/2013

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New Zealand is concerned at the way Fiji police seized copies of a draft constitution and burnt them, Foreign Minister Murray McCully says.

The document, which remains secret in Fiji but has been widely leaked, calls for the country’s military to have a much-reduced role in politics.

McCully, speaking today on Radio New Zealand (RNZ), said it was vital the military returned to their barracks after promised elections next year and became a normal army as seen in other democracies.

Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama, head of the Republic of Fiji Military Forces, has ruled Fiji by decree since a coup in 2006.

As part of a promise to hold elections by 2014, the regime established a commission to draw up Fiji’s fourth constitution, led by Kenyan academic Yash Ghai. New Zealand contributed $500,000 towards the cost of the exercise.

Last month Ghai presented the draft constitution to Fiji President Epeli Nailatikau.

He later had 600 copies printed by the Government Printer but as they were doing it, police arrived and seized printer’s proofs, dowsed them in kerosene and set fire to them.

The police say the other copies were not destroyed but are locked away.

Yesterday Fiji’s Land Force Commander Colonel Mosese Tikoitoga made it plain the military did not like Ghai’s constitution and would oppose it.

Last night Ghai said the dissemination of the commission’s work was for them alone and added that the ban on publishing the constitution had led to leaks of various versions.

“The authentic, and the only valid, documents are those that I presented to the president,” he said.

“I have therefore decided on my own responsibility to release copies of the authentic documents to the public.”

McCully said he had been talking to Fiji Foreign Minister Inoke Kubuabola to get an understanding of what was happening.

“We should just wait and study the document. These developments are of concern to us,” he told RNZ.

“We are watching carefully just to see how this plays out. What we have discovered in Fiji is that sometimes these situations are a bit more complex than they appear on the surface.”

McCully said it was crucial to get an internationally respected constitution in place and for the elections next year to be recognised as free and fair.

“This is a pivotal time and we need to take this step by step,” he said.

One of the big hurdles would be to get the military out of politics after the elections.

“The military need to accept the results of that elections and that means they have to go back to the barracks and play the normal role the military play in a democratic society.”

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McCully said there had been positive developments in Fiji but now and again there seemed to be significant steps backward.

“We will take very close interest in this,” he told RNZ.

“I have already been in text communications with my counterpart to make sure we can pick up the conversation in the new year.”

Anonymous said...

What else does Frank wanna change!!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!! maybe ask his son to change his behaviour after he got thrown out of Eds Bar in Nadi...

TRUE STORY CAAAA SARAGA! I was there! HAHAHAHAHA .... BOCI

Anonymous said...

Dharam Lingam, you're even more confused than before. Your hero Bainimarama is claiming that Ghai was WRONG to print 600 copies, not that he was right in doing so. It shows that you're intellectually dishonest. You just support whatever the dicktator does, no matter whether it's right or wrong.

Anonymous said...

Fiji's new flag should be emblazoned with a design of the HMS Titantic on its death plunge.

Anonymous said...

Let's have Yash Ghai's commission design the flag, so that the regime can burn that, too.

Optimus said...

We already bunch of idiots illegally running our government now.

Anonymous said...

Io e tukuna okoya e uluna ga vei au. Koya me yaco I vunia na qai tavulaka vei iko. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttt

Optimus said...

Why is Frank sniffing his finger on that picture, did he just pulled it out from rear of dude standing beside him? ha! ha! he's smiling.

Anonymous said...

Recalling tne U.S. revlutionary flag that said "Don't Tread On Me", Fiji's should show our own snake, Frank Bainimarama, in an Alfred E. Neumann pose, saying "What, Me Worry?"

Lekh Ram Vasyehnohi said...

Happy New Year to all.May God bless each and every one. May god bless our beautiful fiji including our beloved PM. From Lekh Ram Vasyenohi and family.

Anonymous said...

The Constitution Commision was tasked with collating the views of the people and producing a 'DRAFT' document to the President that would then be used by the Constituent Assembly to firstly study and then 'debate' with the people, prior to a final version being produced.

The CC were only collectors of information and made up of a group who were considered fair and unbiased along with the specialist skills of Ghai in producing this type of process. They have done their task well and it is now for others of higher standing in the Fijian community with specialist knowledge and experience of Fijian affairs to lead the debate stage of the process.

It was in fact unethical to attempt to circulate this draft to the public before both the President and chosen Constituent Assembly were given a chance to fully study it. The fact that the draft is now being circulated so widely is likely to sway the bias of those who 'volunteer' to be members of the Constitution Assembly. There's now a good chance that a higher percentage of the 'volunteers' for the CA are primarily those that have personal agendas based upon what sections they do not like in the draft and will affect them rather than their interest being for the overall good of all.

In reality, the CA makeup should have be chosen and sorted before the draft was completed, but this is Fiji.

Whilst all Fijians I'm sure want accountability and transparency there are protocols and procedures that should be followed. The fact that certain political and NGO organisations were allowed to see the draft and the CC knew what it contained and had records should have been enough to ensure that what the CC had produced was not changed before the CA had to deal with the process.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment that we should just ignore Semi Meo. It's obvious to 99.99 percent of us that the man is an idiot and an egotist.The fool just wants publicity, no matter that most of us are laughing AT him, not WITH him. We already know full well the guy's views in support of Bainimarama's treason. We also know his adolescent behaviour and his cowardly unwillingness to stand behind his outrageous assertions. So let's now just ignore him. Pass over this cretin's rantings and waste no more time on him.

tattifala said...

Ghai breached role by printing extra copies . (ghai breached decree reiterate Military fs 3/1).
Did Bainimarama breach his role as commander of rfmf?
Does he have the lawful authority to make decrees?
Who are the RFMF to talk about breaching role?

Anonymous said...

Fiji police is denying burning copies of constitution draft to save face from countries that funded commission work. Namely EU, NZ, Aus.

Santa said...

Four times in the past quarter-century, the people of Fiji have had to endure military coups. The upshot for them has been sharply curtailed rights and freedoms, the bite of international sanctions, and inept management of the economy.

Only if the armed forces are kept in their barracks will the country break out of this self-destructive cycle. Unfortunately, that realisation has yet to dawn on the leaders of the military, who cling to the idea that they must forever be the saviours of the nation.

As much has been underlined by the Republic of Fiji Military Forces' submission to the commission charged with producing a draft constitution. The military exists "to deal with both the internal security situation and external threats", it reads. "The forces cannot and will not be complacent in dealing with situations that undermine national interest."

In effect, the military is serving notice to the government that takes power after elections scheduled for next year. It will closely monitor that administration and will not allow it to undermine any of the work put in place by the regime headed by Commodore Frank Bainimarama since it seized power in 2006.




That regime overthrew a democratically elected Government and tossed out the previous constitution. To replace that document, a five-strong Constitutional Commission, headed by a Kenyan academic, Professor Yash Ghai, has just finalised a draft constitution that enshrines principles such as one-person, one-vote, an independent judiciary and transparent governance.

Those principles, and the ambition to foster a secular, corruption-free state, are commendable. But they amount to nothing if the will of Parliament can be subordinated at any time to the firepower of the armed forces. Professor Ghai has emphasised the untenable nature of this, and said the military must be responsible to the government and to Parliament, and has to act within the confines of the constitution. "We think the professional military, their conscience should be to defend Fiji against external aggression and we would rather the police handle internal disorder issues," he says.

Like many before him, Professor Ghai is discovering that one step forward by the Bainimarama regime is usually succeeded by at least one step back. The military's attitude must also be particularly disappointing for the Governments of New Zealand and Australia. Last year, they restored high-level diplomatic representation in Suva and eased travel bans on members of the regime. They clearly believed that Commodore Bainimarama was sincere about a return to democracy next year, and that the outlook for Fiji had brightened considerably. The regime's sincerity has now, however, morphed into a determination to continue to have its way whatever the will of the Fijian people.

The new constitution is due to be formally adopted by the end of March. Before then, it will be the subject of public debate. This represents a chance for the people of Fiji to impress on the military that further intervention in the politics of the country is utterly unacceptable. By and large, they have viewed successive regimes with a fatalistic air, and demonstrated little outward antagonism towards military rule. This has served only to encourage the leaders of the armed forces.

The attitude of the military, as revealed by its submission on the draft constitution, reveals Fijians will be in for further periods of draconian rule, with the loss of most of their rights and freedoms, unless they assert their will. The time to abandon their passivity has arrived. The military must be accountable to Fiji's elected representatives, not the other way around.

Julab Gilla Dean said...

Anon 6.18. I am suprised Santa is going to head the assembly. What credentials does he have to lead this powerful organisation? Can you please elaborate.

Anonymous said...

It was a poisoned chalice and Ghai should've know what he was getting into.

SEMI MEO said...

@Anon January 3, 2013 1:06 PM...why bother reading my posts.?

My honourable posts are meant for those brave Fijian Citizens who could remember their names.

..not for some nameless idiots!

FreedomFighter said...

The burning of the draft constitution merely confirms what 99.9% of Fiji citizens have always believed that Vore & Aiarse will not accept a constitution that genuinely reflects the views, aspirations and desires of 99.9%of the population of Fiji. Any constitution that is inclusive, relevant and reflects the authentic voice of the multi cultural, multi religious, the poor and 99.9 % of the educated elites of multi racial Fiji is not acceptable to the army. The army knows what is best of Fiji, although as an institution it might be full of people who have never been to a tertiary institution like its commander.The army wants Fiji to adopt its (0.01%) constitution that is drafted by Aiarse that gives them immunity. God Bless Fiji

Anonymous said...

Can any one tell me of any past Dictators such as Joseph Stalin, Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein and those that have been recently overthrown in the middle east that have not committed crimes of humanity.

NONE NONE AT ALL.

Can you also remember those that were honest with their people by protecting them rights as HUMAN BEINGS.

NO... NO.... NO

One that that is common amongst these people is that they they all have good legal advise and also those that can use dirty and barbaric methods of getting their ideals across and gaining people support.

My advise and requests to those honest and God fearing people in uniform to please make copies of all important documents and start smuggling those important evidence outside.

There is also of information with FIRCA, Police, RFMF and all government ministries.

The sign is very clear NOW and they know only .9% of the population is behind them.

To those in uniforms please JUST do your duties and be faithful.

God Bless Fiji

Anonymous said...

Anon@ 12.40
Ghai did not have any authority to publish 600 copies of the draft.His ony job was to collate submissions and make a draft.
Whatwas he reaso to print 600 copies is beyound my comprehension.

Long Live Bainimarama
Long Live FMF

Dharam Lingam

mark manning said...

If Frank digs any deeper, he might find either his brain or the only brain cell he has left.
It would be interesting to see if Frank and Aiyaz end up sharing the same prison cell once Democracy is restored.

Anonymous said...

Bocimarama and Aiyarse have been lying to cover up lies, and they're running out of lies. To heroes who are in Fiji enduring this evil Bocimarama, hanging there because you are the ones who will reap the rewards later, not semi Meo barking from overseas. And semi Meo, we chose not to put our names in here because we are not seeking publicity like you. Comment edited-C4.5

FreedomFighter said...

The reason for the coup was a lie. Thousands of lies was arrogantly told to the 99.9% of Fiji citizens by the army to cover up that frst lie. The lies still continues today with the reason for the burning of the draft constitution by TIKOITOGA. Vore, Aiarse & TIkoitoga are not comfortable with the process of getting their immunity and article 174 Clause (4)in the PEOPLEs DRAFT CONSTITUTION which states that “A member of any security service must not obey a manifestly illegal order and is justified in refusing to obey such an order.” Tikoitoga if he has any conscience must be feeling guilty

SEMI MEO said...

Anon of January 3, 2013 5:56 PM...still you are nameless!!

tattifala said...

I don't know whether it was within his role for Ghai to print 600 copies of the draft constitution as part of his new constitution making assignment. I don't know if what ghai did was lawful within the meaning of some decree issued by the ILLEGAL regime. (How can any decree issued by an illegal regime be lawful?)
What I know for a FACT is that Bainimarama did not have any lawful authority to take over the Government of Fiji? Such an authority was NOT vested in his role as army commander under the Constitution of Fiji. Now this should Really be the starting point of any discussion. All this talk about the draft constitution is irrelevant. Anybody care to dispute that - rationally?

Anonymous said...

Semi, is that all you can come up with? We can put up our names and photos if we want but we are not like you, a failure and a runaway showing off what little knowledge you have. By the way, I printed your photo and used it to line my dog's house....and you can guess what was on it lol.

Prof. Ghai was in charge of drafting the constitution and he has a right to print copies for distribution. Bocimarama and Aiyarse had ulterior motives in stopping it. Talk about transparency, something that 99.99% did not believe in, unlike semi and his 0.01% espoused.

Anonymous said...

Dharam Lingam, EVERYTHING is beyond your comprehension.

Earlier you wrote that Ghai was right to print 600 copies. Now that you know the regime's view, you do a 180-degree turnabout in your position. This shows you don't think independently. You're just another pathetic regime stooge.

Anonymous said...

Let's just ignore the moron.

Anonymous said...

Tattifalla is spot on, as usual. The falla knows his tatti, unlike Anonymous @ January 3, 2013 1:04 PM.

Let's put Anon's views in the proper context, shall we?

'The [illegal and unconstitutional] Constitution Commision was tasked [by an illegal tyrant] with collating the views of the people [minus Madraiwiwi and all those who declined to participate in an illegal and treasonous project] and producing a 'DRAFT' document to the [illegal] President that would then be used by the [illegal and unconstitutional] Constituent Assembly to firstly study and then 'debate' [properly in quotations because it won't be genuine] with the people [minus Madraiwiwi and all those who declined to participate in an illegal and treasonous project], prior to a final version being produced [by the illegal regime and shoved down our throats like the Peoples Charter].

'The CC were only collectors of information and made up of a group who were considered [by the illegal regime and its traitorous supporters] fair and unbiased along with the specialist skills of Ghai [as Aiyaz's former professor] in producing this type of process. They have done their task [in creating a spurious draft constitution] well and it is now for others of higher standing in the Fijian community with specialist knowledge and experience of Fijian affairs [i.e., Bainimarama's legal hack Nazhat Shameem] to lead the debate stage of the process.

'It was in fact unethical to attempt to circulate this draft to the public before both the [illegal] President and chosen [by whom?] Constituent Assembly were given a chance to fully study it. [The agreement to create such a draft was the real breach of ethics.] The fact that the draft is now being circulated so widely is likely to sway the bias of those [traitors] who 'volunteer' to be members of the Constitution Assembly. There's now a good chance that a higher percentage of the 'volunteers' for the CA are primarily those that have personal agendas based upon what sections they do not like in the draft and will affect them rather than their interest being for the overall good of all. [Their main interest is assuring immunity for treason and continued political meddling by the RFMF.]

'In reality, the CA makeup should have be chosen [by the people] and sorted [according to constitutional procedure] before the draft was [begun, much less] completed, but this is [the New] Fiji.

'Whilst all Fijians I'm sure want accountability and transparency [except for the regime] there are protocols and procedures [and principles and laws] that should be followed. The fact that certain political and NGO organisations were allowed to see the draft and the CC knew what it contained and had records should have been [just little] enough to ensure that [the regime could lie again to claim that] what the CC had produced was not changed before the CA had to deal with [i.e., rubberstamp] the process.'

The Hurtlocker said...

It was a daft thing thing to do Ghai. You accepted the brief under those terms and should've stuck by them. Dance with the devil and you end up locking horns.

SEMI MEO said...

@ No name and no face of January 3, 2013 8:22 PM...

Please, stop diving in the kinoya pool for goodness sake!

Anonymous said...

Semi, he/ she was diving into the Kinoya pool to rescue you lol.

fattitatti said...

hey tattifalla..why did you leave ratu jone m out of the firing line..he took money to advance the cause of your illegal pm and ag and gave advice..thats the truth brother that you so often speak aboutisnt it? you got no balls and your principles are bs....lol

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous Jan 3rd 11:01 PM

You are of course entitled to your own views as am I and of course entitled to counter 'attack' or 'debate' them should you wish.

To copy someone elses work and then make additions/changes to it to suit your own purposes and put a different slant to it is pretty pathetic.

Is it that you have such a low intelect that you are unable to produce anything on your own ?

So how about some originality from you next time or if you are unable to do this at least start climbing the intelectual ladder to the second rung and counter with name calling and abuse.

SEMI MEO said...

@anon..January 4, 2013 7:47 AM...uh...why did you pull me in then?

Now another thought, why not the/a "Fiji Government in exile" (if there is one who should have been ready to take over) or these prodemocracy gurus, draft its own constitution, then give/sent copies to members of the Assembly..

Don’t you think that that may then justify the final product be the document ALL of us collectively ordain?

Why not?.. as now we have about 3 different versions of the draft floating around. ..may be the more the merrier?

Just that we all barking ready to shred the Rear Admiral’s draft, while none of us care put up an alternative constitution!!...or would that be the similar trend pre-elections in that we keep vilify and profane the PM while he sails in , probably, uncontested as your Prime Minister for the next (double term)8 years!.

.or is there a worthy alternative PM out there???....please put your hand up now!!



People of the Land said...

To those who are still supporting this corrupt and murderous Regime, please re-look at the situation again.

It seems only a few are behind Baini which is a sad sign.

It is common knowledge that Dictators will always end up in Jail even at their 70s and 80s.

Democracy does not have a human soul or human emotions and can only operate within the majority of the population.

Also one thing that is so unique about democracy is that it has very good and exact memory because it always bank of people and hidden evidences in institutions used by these tyrant leaders.

Right know the public knows who the supporters are and those that directly and indirectly benefited from all the dealings under the illegal regime.

To those honest and people of integrity still sitting on the fence DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BE PART OF THIS REGIME AS WE ALL KNOW THEY USED PEOPLE TO FULFILL THEIR selfish AGENDA AND KICK THEM OUT.

Ask MPC and labour party supporters, Waradi, Bune, Driti, Roko Ului, etc and etc.

Remember the key master Planners are the Shameem sisters and Khayum and Gates was brought in to make this coup look more appealing and convincing to Australia and NZ.

I salute those leaders who remained standing like FTA, SDL,NFP leadership, Tui Cakau, Roko Tui Dreketi, Turaga na Kalevu. the Qaranivalu and Roko Tui Bau and Ratu Apenisa. These are the vocal ones and some members of the provincial councils.

We need to see people of leadership integrity to stand and be seen by their people. This is the sign of true leaders.

God Bless Fiji







tattifala said...

Birds of a feather phucking fiji together!

SEMI MEO said...

...mmm..so who will be the best alternative Prime Ministers out of the list above...or will we play the "dove and hibiscuss" game post 2014 elections??

tattifala said...

@semimeow
Anybody would make a better Prime Minister then the usurper who purports to be the "Prime Minister of Fiji"!
meow!

Anonymous said...

Too much MSG.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but Truncated Lounge is seriously not funny. Whatever happened to The Heckler?

Anonymous said...

Well done. The original was foolish nonsense. This version makes much greater sense. Puts it all in the proper context.

Anonymous said...

Sieg heil!

Anonymous said...

Semi you maqe go back to the zoo.

SEMI MEO said...

@ sooo...you will be the best alternative Prime Minister to this Rear Admiral??

YOU!...then, start campaining!!

Anonymous said...

Sour grapes. His version is witty; yours is shitty.

Anonymous said...

Or share the ame gallows.

Anonymous said...

I'm 99.99% certain Semi Davis Jnr won't be the next PM.

vested interests for immunity said...

@ Jan 3 1.04p.m.

Good comment. 3 points to make : Perhaps you'd like to also consider the fact that the DECREE itself mandates the CC to disseminate copies of their work records which includes the two documents in question to various places (as stipulated in the decree). Additionally, the DC/ER will have to be considered by the Constituent Assembly and we all note that the junta recently announced it has received over 300 applicants for the Constituent Assembly. Last but not least, there is nothing in the decree that precludes the "independent" CC from printing 600 or whatever number of copies of the DC/ER.

It's not as if taxpayers of Fiji are footing the bill. Fijians are however footing the bills of those who've advised and supported the execution of coup 2006 and prolonging of a military dictatorship todate..

Anonymous said...

Second that. Love his new name. PM Semi Davis Jr. Has a black men feel for a white men!

Anonymous said...

Anon@2.45, are you saying that a black man, semi Maqe, has a lot of feelings for the white man,Graham Davis?

Rear Admiral said...

meo

luveni vutulaki...mata va noqu i cici

Ratu Voreqe said...

Meo

me vutka la omu maimuri o Rear Admiral

tailevu said...

na mataqali Pm vacava qo ..e taba tu ni tonoka voli na ucuna vaka i baci

SEMI MEO said...

@Sidimite above...qai tabaka na ka o vola toka qo ka laki wilika vei iratou na nomu veitinani kei rau na nomu tubutubu...wilika vei iratou..

Kaimami na sega ni kurabuini ratou na biutu iko mo qai mai katakuku taudua voli!

O nanuma ni sega ni dua e kila na yacamu kei na vanua o tiko kina qori??....isa...keimami sa loloma tale!

vutukimeo said...

Meo

va cava e mosi...you are full of shit and you deserve all these rubbish...thats you keep replying...sona levu

Anonymous said...

The burning of the constitution drafted by Ghai and his team is a great sign for all the people of Fiji to participate in the 2014 election. The outcome of that election will help us to move away from this saga. Just make sure when you vote try and value the importance of that vote. So vote for the wise people who can help build Fiji to be a better place to live and enjoy the freedom in a trully democratic nation.

Anonymous said...

Caita la nomu Rear o Amiral.

Anonymous said...

Are you going to trust a criminal when he comes to your home ? Fucking moron !

Anonymous said...

True

SEMI MEO said...

Oh..who are these flies flying around this highly esteemed column…they feast on “tattifala”, fly over to sodomy’s chief, back to their own family and back to C4.5.

Oh boy..they love to blind side 99.99% brave Fijians, just like those large menacing “lago levu ni tatti”…bzzz…bzzz…bzzzzz…oh…dive to another “ deni koli” of an story, back to "tattifala" and Sodomy chief to report.and on...and on....

OK…jokes aside…look guys..it may NOT really matter how much you demean, profane, slur me and my name…for you see…like us 99.99% sane Fijians, we know our defensive and attacking weapons in the spiritual stratosphere of evil elements like your breed…so…yawn…right now, all you profanity are coming back your way in many forms!!...waraka!

My advise is stick to the topic!...even if you remain anonymous, but doing so with dignity like a true Fijian!

Right now...phew!!...C4.5 may need to call the Fire Brigade to hose off all you guys tatti posts!!

Miau said...

Flies are flying around because of you..speaking through your tatti ole.